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What is Gus Hamer best role?

  • Deep Lying Midfielder?

    Votes: 45 9.6%

  • Box to Box?

    Votes: 173 36.8%

  • Attacking midfielder?

    Votes: 224 47.7%

  • Wide man?

    Votes: 5 1.1%

  • Bench?

    Votes: 23 4.9%
  • Total voters
    470

nopigfansintown said:
They've tweaked things tactically in the last few games. Pressing patterns, restart positions, off the ball movements. O'Hare and Hamer are dovetailing and switching roles depending on the in game situation. If we had a birds eye view of the game we could work out exactly what they are doing and when.

Hamer hasn't been playing on the left because Wilder thinks it's his best position. Utter nonsense. It's to do with the personnel at our disposal.
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Yes , the structure of our attacking 4 is unbalanced + not easily understood.

For a start we play a winger in JRS on the RW but we don't play a LW when we could easily put Brooks there.
Probably coz we have to fit Hamer into the team.
So we are lopsided coz we can't sacrifice Hamer's contribution in order to have Brooks on LW.
People are saying sign a LW in January but we don't play the one we already have.
So we don't get crosses from the L unless Burrows gets forward.
And so we have a WB on the L but only a RB (not a WB)(Alfie) on the R.
So we look more attacking when Seriki replaces Alfie.
The whole thing is an unbalanced mishmash because structure is sacrificed in order to get the "best players" into the team.
Even when Brooks comes on we don't play him where he's best (on LW) but force him onto RW causing him to look poorer than he really is.
To improve this we would just need to swap Hamer or O'Hare to the R and put Brooks LW - easy.
But CW is fixed that our only winger must be on R not L - dunno why.

On top of that , we can't make our mind up whether to play two strikers or one striker plus O'Hare.
I thought two strikers worked really well at Blackburn and that would be my preference but Wilder sees O'Hare as indispensable.
I don't know we whether he includes O'Hare for his high pressing but surely it's not for his goalscoring as a 10.

Anyway , we are top of the league , so CW clearly knows what he's doing even if I find it hard to fathom 🤔

Oh , and back to the thread question , I see Hamer as an attacking MF.

Which means that if we need both Souza & Peck in front of the defence , we have to sacrifice a LW in order to accommodate Hamer.
 
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Keen Blade said:
Yes but who drops out to accommodate Burrows ?
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I guess the argument is you drop Peck / Arblaster out and put Gus in a Box to Box role alongside Souza. O’Hare is already in his favoured position, so you leave him there in central attacking mid.

I do think there’s an argument for trying this (especially now Blaster is out), and playing, say, Brooks or Campbell on the left, and keeping burrows a left back (where he has been fantastic). If it clicks, your midfield diamond becomes Souza-Hamer-O’hare, which gives me Norwood-Fleck-Duffy vibes.

The argument against this, which is presumably what wilder thinks, is that we lose the double-pivot that has lead to 7 home clean sheets in a row. Plus we effectively swap an Arblaster for a Brooks, clearly weakening the overall 11. The second issue is perhaps less severe now it’s Peck and not Blaster, but it’s still a downgrade IMO. If we loan a quality left-sided JRS clone in Jan, then I think it’s worth looking at.

Worth saying, though, that despite Cov fans laughing at how we’re playing Hamer, he’s arguably been the best player in the league this year. A league we are top of. Obviously there are other factors but the best they could manage was scraping the play offs even though they had two generational players for them (Gus and Gyokores) plus O’Hare in the team. I suspect this would be Chris’s response to this thread.
 
Keen Blade said:
Yes , the structure of our attacking 4 is unbalanced + not easily understood.

For a start we play a winger in JRS on the RW but we don't play a LW when we could easily put Brooks there.
Probably coz we have to fit Hamer into the team.
So we are lopsided coz we can't sacrifice Hamer's contribution in order to have Brooks on LW.
People are saying sign a LW in January but we don't play the one we already have.
So we don't get crosses from the L unless Burrows gets forward.
And so we have a WB on the L but only a RB (not a WB)(Alfie) on the R.
So we look more attacking when Seriki replaces Alfie.
The whole thing is an unbalanced mishmash because structure is sacrificed in order to get the "best players" into the team.
Even when Brooks comes on we don't play him where he's best (on LW) but force him onto RW causing him to look poorer than he really is.
To improve this we would just need to swap Hamer or O'Hare to the R and put Brooks LW - easy.
But CW is fixed that our only winger must be on R not L - dunno why.

On top of that , we can't make our mind up whether to play two strikers or one striker plus O'Hare.
I thought two strikers worked really well at Blackburn and that would be my preference but Wilder sees O'Hare as indispensable.
I don't know we whether he includes O'Hare for his high pressing but surely it's not for his goalscoring as a 10.

Anyway , we are top of the league , so CW clearly knows what he's doing even if I find it hard to fathom 🤔

Oh , and back to the thread question , I see Hamer as an attacking MF.

Which means that if we need both Souza & Peck in front of the defence , we have to sacrifice a LW in order to accommodate Hamer.
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I think a general point is that all managers like pace off the bench to exploit tired players deep in games. They generally make the best impact subs. Apart from Seriki or Brooks we don't really have any other options off the bench as JRS is a starter. I suppose an argument can be made for Brewster and Campbell (when Brewster and Moore are fit and the latter starts). If you started Brooks it'd be looking a bit threadbare for this sort of option. It doesn't surprise me that we were linked with pacy wingers and strikers (that we didn't get).
 
Wright1889 said:
So you’re telling me he didn’t play more centrally last night?
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When Hamer's playing at LW with O'Hare in the 10, they often interchange positions at various points during the game, JRS popped up in the 10 a few times as well.
 
loyalblade95 said:
When Hamer's playing at LW with O'Hare in the 10, they often interchange positions at various points during the game, JRS popped up in the 10 a few times as well.
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All I’m saying is that he played more centrally the other night, Hamer was centrally deep at some points, and he was even on the right at some points.

Previously he was staying on the left more and cutting in, it’s obvious there’s been a tweak to the tactic.
 
Wright1889 said:
All I’m saying is that he played more centrally the other night, Hamer was centrally deep at some points, and he was even on the right at some points.

Previously he was staying on the left more and cutting in, it’s obvious there’s been a tweak to the tactic.
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There hasn't been a tweak to the tactic, the game was just different. Oxford were shite and it allowed us to keep possession in their final third, which allows the front three to rotate fluidly.

When we had the ball in the other two thirds, it looked the same as it always does, Gus always starts from the left.
 
AWetFlannel said:
There hasn't been a tweak to the tactic, the game was just different. Oxford were shite and it allowed us to keep possession in their final third, which allows the front three to rotate fluidly.

When we had the ball in the other two thirds, it looked the same as it always does, Gus always starts from the left.
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We obviously saw the game differently, and there’s nothing wrong with that.
 

robbiez666 said:
You have to question a player who struggles to play 90 minutes but is frequently seen out on the piss. He may get away with it at this level but not in the top flight.
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Is he frequently seen out on the piss?
 
Greasy Chap Butty said:
'struggles to play 90' ???
He's been pulled when managing minutes or injury. But this is a bonkers comment.
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If that statement isn't true he has changed. He loved a good night out and eating all kinds of junk food when with us. Looking at him he has put a fair bit of weight on.

When he was with us he got away with it because he carried our team with Gyokeres. But it looks like it could be catching up with him. Doesn't even look like an athlete now. But still a very good player who deserves respect.
 
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Sky Blues said:
If that statement isn't true he has changed. He loved a good night out and eating all kinds of junk food when with us. Looking at him he has put a fair bit of weight on.

When he was with us he got away with it because he carried our team with Gyokeres. But it looks like it could be catching up with him. Doesn't even look like an athlete now. But still a very good player who deserves respect.
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The only time it might be an issue is if I see him ordering a cheeseburger from one of those dodgy burger vans outside the ground. Then that's when he needs to be stopped for his own safety.
 
Bladesman said:
The only time it might be an issue is if I see him ordering a cheeseburger from one of those dodgy burger vans outside the ground. Then that's when he needs to be stopped for his own safety.
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Especially if he gets subbed of as he has a munchie attack.
 

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