From inside the club..

[Farnboroughblade]

A Manager who has never been a professional footballer doesn't command the same respect. Selles only played for his University. The fans & majority of players at Hull & Reading thought he waa a joke. We all know our owners have spent a their money just buying us so they chose Selles because he has a Masters degree in sport subjects. So hes intelligent but that doesn't guarantee a good manager. The vast majority of fans knew it was a dangerous appointment but the owners know even less about Championship football than Selles does. We're an unlucky club.

So you know the majority of fans and players of both Reading and Hull to come up with that conclusion regarding Sellés? With me living in the next major town to Reading I know quite a few Reading supporters and they are ALL of the opinion that he was a very good manager for them. More importantly my near neighbour is a first team regular for Reading and we meet up at the odd social event and speaking to him only last week, the players thought he was brilliant and sorry to see him leave. That alone shoots down your claim.

 

[brownblade]

Robinson was fully fit yesterday but has had a bust up with the coaching staff and wants to leave.

Cooper currently operating at about two third fitness, issues with his knee, he is not doing full training and is having injections to play. May need an op going forward but is playing through it as we have no real cover

Split in the dressing room over Selles already Robinson, Peck, Burrows are the unhappiest with tactics O’Hare also not convinced.

With all due respect, this sounds made up.

 

[Red Hot Currie]

He spent yesterday on the CB's toes , he's an overweight lad who can't keep his temper and gets far too many bookings
BUT
he knows he can produce sublimely talented moments so will never get dropped and can coast along with us , never sorting his fitness or his temper , drawing a nice wage and having a chilled life.

I can't work out from yesterday's non-performance and ridiculous tackle for their first goal ,
whether he's now dropped to a level where he's just taking the piss out of SUFC a la Lunnycunt
Or
whether he's suddenly discovered 'ambishun' and sorted out a deal at a club where he'll actually have to get off his arse.

I normally just read threads and say nowt. However, regarding Hamer... I think he's a great player... but talk to anyone who works behind a bar in the flashy places on Eccie Road and they'll tell you that he's a regular. Likes his shots and his beer. I reckon that's why he hasn't fulfilled his true potential (yet). If he could add a bit of discipline and focus to his life then he'd be a top, top player. I hope he can do that with us. But I'm not sure that he will.

 

[A Storm of Blades]

O’Hare was head and shoulders our best player on Saturday. I remain unconvinced by Peck, especially at DM. Hamer was quite quiet (adapting to a role back in the middle maybe?) and Burrows has had an absolutely terrifying plummet in form. No idea what’s happened there.

The defence was utterly atrocious. Disorganised, too far apart, littered with individual mistakes. As bad as I can remember since the 0-8. Having said all that, that game could have easily ended up 6-4. Pretty much everything went for Bristol City, we did dominate most of the match as bizarre as that sounds. Keeper had a near worldy, fortunate blocks and deflections.

There were some encouraging signs, just need to take our medicine and pretty much buy an entirely new defence, along with bionic knees for Cooper.

 

[Frank the tank]

A Manager who has never been a professional footballer doesn't command the same respect. Selles only played for his University. The fans & majority of players at Hull & Reading thought he waa a joke. We all know our owners have spent a their money just buying us so they chose Selles because he has a Masters degree in sport subjects. So hes intelligent but that doesn't guarantee a good manager. The vast majority of fans knew it was a dangerous appointment but the owners know even less about Championship football than Selles does. We're an unlucky club.

The hull and reading players loved him.

 

[Gin&Juice]

Remember when Wilder and McCabe both walked after we lost 3-0 at home to Southend? I remember that rumour

 

[Sean Thornton]

Y

Laney’s back with her intimate knowledge of Hull & Reading players’ inner thoughts!

Come on Sean Thornton get stuck in!

UTB & FTP!

Thanks for the heads up but don’t believe any input from myself can add to the (usual) mockery already expressed.



Ooh! Other than to ask if Tony Currie told her that?

 

[steve26272]

A Manager who has never been a professional footballer doesn't command the same respect.

Aye, alright

Jose Mourinho
Gerrard Houllier
Julian Nagelsmann
Arrigo Sacchi
Maurizio Sarri

Oppose to great players who managed

Rooney
Neville
Gerrard
Shearer
Keane

Respect is earned not owed

 

[Davalon]

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[Nick Jansky]

A Manager who has never been a professional footballer doesn't command the same respect. Selles only played for his University. The fans & majority of players at Hull & Reading thought he waa a joke. We all know our owners have spent a their money just buying us so they chose Selles because he has a Masters degree in sport subjects. So hes intelligent but that doesn't guarantee a good manager. The vast majority of fans knew it was a dangerous appointment but the owners know even less about Championship football than Selles does. We're an unlucky club.

Sunday night hangovers are the worst sort of hangovers aren’t they.

 

[Keen Blade]

I normally just read threads and say nowt. However, regarding Hamer... I think he's a great player... but talk to anyone who works behind a bar in the flashy places on Eccie Road and they'll tell you that he's a regular. Likes his shots and his beer. I reckon that's why he hasn't fulfilled his true potential (yet). If he could add a bit of discipline and focus to his life then he'd be a top, top player. I hope he can do that with us. But I'm not sure that he will.

I'm sure he won't do it with us.

If he ever sorts himself enough to fulfil his potential , a wealthy club will recognise it and buy him.

But there's no way such a club is coming for him whilst he coasts along , enjoying whatever makes him overweight and relying on occasional moments of sheer class to keep him in the side at the Lane.

Not as extreme , but he's another Mousset in mindset.

 

[Gimli]

A Manager who has never been a professional footballer doesn't command the same respect. Selles only played for his University. The fans & majority of players at Hull & Reading thought he waa a joke. We all know our owners have spent a their money just buying us so they chose Selles because he has a Masters degree in sport subjects. So hes intelligent but that doesn't guarantee a good manager. The vast majority of fans knew it was a dangerous appointment but the owners know even less about Championship football than Selles does. We're an unlucky club.

So glad that you know all the Hull and Reading players, how convenient that just happens to be all the players from Selles’ last two teams, perfect!

 

[Davalon]

Interesting. I think Hamer is also in the “not happy” camp.

Didn't take long to switch from not divulging names

 

[Hanauer]

Robinson was fully fit yesterday but has had a bust up with the coaching staff and wants to leave.

Cooper currently operating at about two third fitness, issues with his knee, he is not doing full training and is having injections to play. May need an op going forward but is playing through it as we have no real cover

Split in the dressing room over Selles already Robinson, Peck, Burrows are the unhappiest with tactics O’Hare also not convinced.

Robinson was fully fit yesterday but has had a bust up with the coaching staff and wants to leave.

Cooper currently operating at about two third fitness, issues with his knee, he is not doing full training and is having injections to play. May need an op going forward but is playing through it as we have no real cover

Split in the dressing room over Selles already Robinson, Peck, Burrows are the unhappiest with tactics O’Hare also not convinced.

Strong smell of

 

[BerksBlade]

A Manager who has never been a professional footballer doesn't command the same respect. Selles only played for his University. The fans & majority of players at Hull & Reading thought he waa a joke. We all know our owners have spent a their money just buying us so they chose Selles because he has a Masters degree in sport subjects. So hes intelligent but that doesn't guarantee a good manager. The vast majority of fans knew it was a dangerous appointment but the owners know even less about Championship football than Selles does. We're an unlucky club.

Not true, certainly in Reading's case. Most Reading fans I know have nothing but respect for Selles - he got them playing decent football despite being in dire financial straits.

 

[borg elite]

 

[Iffy Onuora's Shiny Head]

Can't believe this thread has gotten so much response (which I understand the irony of me adding more to it)

Brand new account with lots of extremely negative claims... Hmmmmmmm

Though its clear the poster has been to medical school by claiming someone is playing at "2/3rds fitness". Shame he wasn't at 3/4's or he might have saved thier free kick.

 

[metalblade]

The Robinson rumour is plausible he's a scouser a move to a club just down the road from home with better wages would be attractive, I hope it happens for him once we get a few CB's in the door. The rest of it sounds like a load of bollocks to me if there was any doubt over Cooper Grbic would still be here not in Turkey. O'Hare seems to be one who at the moment is playing well, Burrows is gash at defending and does look to be struggling, Peck thinks he is better than he is and needs to get his head down and work.

 

[Dkc]

Not true, certainly in Reading's case. Most Reading fans I know have nothing but respect for Selles - he got them playing decent football despite being in dire financial straits.

His record at Reading is far better than his record at Hull. Reading fans generally have a good opinion of him, views are more mixed in Hull.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

It’s 9:15am on Monday…No announcement on signings…

 

[The Crab]

A Manager who has never been a professional footballer doesn't command the same respect. Selles only played for his University. The fans & majority of players at Hull & Reading thought he waa a joke. We all know our owners have spent a their money just buying us so they chose Selles because he has a Masters degree in sport subjects. So hes intelligent but that doesn't guarantee a good manager. The vast majority of fans knew it was a dangerous appointment but the owners know even less about Championship football than Selles does. We're an unlucky club.

Utter bollocks.

There have been plenty of good managers who have not played professionally

 

[Cappy]

I've heard the same. Apart from the bit about Robinson. And Cooper. And also about the split in the dressing room. And the lizard shape shifters. You did say lizard shape shifters, right? Come to think about it, we might be on about two completely different things.

Makes you think though....

 

[Blade58]

Didn't take long to switch from not divulging names

True, it’s only because others are saying similar. Started with Rossingtonblade and I think someone else has mentioned it

I got team selection wrong Satdi so maybe I’m wrong about this too?

 

[KMC-1889]

What I do know is that Selles was pretty annoyed by the players slack pre-match routine. He was getting into a few of them about nutrition and warm ups in the hotel. There’s some videos floating around on Snapchat / tik tok taken by some of the staff.

 

[iBlade.]

I don't buy into this dressing room discontent theory. Lets not forget that Robinson missed part of the pre season build up so won't be fully match fit. On top of that he has the Wrexham interest to deal with. Bottom line is we are just desperate for defensive reinforcements.

 

[dexter101]

What I do know is that Selles was pretty annoyed by the players slack pre-match routine. He was getting into a few of them about nutrition and warm ups in the hotel. There’s some videos floating around on Snapchat / tik tok taken by some of the staff.

Original post is a load of rubbish.

But I can see how a change in manager will bring out this side of things.

I have a lot of respect for Wilder and for what he was able to do, but his management style and ethos I think is a world apart from Selles.

Wilder had players on a journey with him through comradery and team spirit. They fought and they battled and I can imagine they had a few drinks etc.

A change in ethos is a lot more hard work than just changing tactics. The board made it clear they wanted to change the direction of the club (not team).

I remember when Pochettino was successful at Southampton, how detailed and all encompassing his ethos was.

I have no idea really if this is whats happening but as a club we have for a while really prized our academy. If we want to keep bringing through really top tier players, they have to not just be good, they have to have the lifestyle and desire to go with it. Not only to help the first team succeed but in reality, so we can sell. Role models in the first team you could argue should be seen to be professionals trying to be the best they can be, not out boozing and kebabing...

I think Hamer is a really good example of this, there is no doubting his quality, but he has been quite open in that he just likes being able to turn up and produce magic, rather than working hard in training etc. (there was some lucozade sponsored video of him and O'hare). I am not suggesting we should sell him, but if you don't focus on this season, and instead on what might make the club as a whole stronger, this type of behaviour doesn't improve the club.

 

[reedy63]

Wrexham are interested in Robinson. We need two centre-backs, in my opinion. Get them in ASAP, Selles.
Then sell Robbo to Wrexham. Choudrey could do a job at right back for us, dint play against wendy yesterday apparently.

 

[Barry Butlin]

Choudrey would be a great signing, can play right back and defensive midfield and Leicester need to offload..

 

[calcalcal]

Would be great but it seems the new owners dont like paying a great deal. So I'd think his wage would price us out

 

[Nagima]

In my view. The OP could have it wrong or could have it right, I don't know. What I do know is that last season there was an issue in the dressing room around the time we lost the 3 games in a row and Wilder being techy. How do I know this. Having a smoke outside before the players awards night event a club official confirmed to a buddy that there was an incident that kicked off but he can't discuss the details.

Regarding Burrows, he can defend that was evident last season as he was decent at reading the game. Obviously Souttar had a big influence in that he was an organiser.
Burrows performance at the weekend is also influenced by the role he was given. Its a bit hard to defend in the full back spot when you are at the other end of the field beside Barry. There may also be complacency after a good season last year. Whether he is unhappy with Selles I don't know. I would think that would be evident after 10 games or so, not after 1 game.

Having spoken with O'Hare. He came across as humble and intelligent. We discussed off the ball movement and link up play. I think Wilder should have kept faith in him at the end of the season. He has a great attitude and he adds a bit of the unexpected with his passing. Campbell and Cooper came across as humble as well.

We all know that Peck is confident. Over confident I am not sure. But confidence is a necessary part of a players make up.and I really admire the way he doesn't hide after making a mistake. It shows he is resilient.
Last week he mixed good and bad. Being the only defensive shield in front of the defence was too much to ask at present, but overtime he could develop into the role. though he needs to develop his left peg a bit more. And I told him so, when I met him. He came across as a good and genuine lad with a good sense of humour.

Having managed and coached teams and managed large teams at work. A new manager has to earn trust first and foremost and takes time. We have had Wilder, Slav, Hecky, Wilder, and now Selles. Robinson has played under all 5 and with his emotional mindset and the trust he got from Hecky and Wilder last season. He may find that he is going to be a bit part player again and may fancy a change.

What is interesting to note is that Wilder last season mainly played a 4231 formation which is exactly the formation Slav was getting slated for. Sometimes success is a matter of timing. With regard to Selles, he is making a big change to how we play coupled with a lack of quality and cover for a few positions. The combination of both is a risk that we won't really know the full effects of for another few months. Could players be unhappy at that point its possible.