For Those Who Want A New Manager - Realistic Suggestions For A Manager Better Than Wilder

[Blade56]

Why on earth are we contemplating swapping a manager who you freely admit has given us some wonderful moments, for someone who might be utter shit.

On that basis Warnock would still be managing , the pretext of the OP is flawed

 

[Broomhall Blade]

I've lost count of the number of threads on here calling for Wilder's head, with numerous posters demanding someone 'better', but I've yet to see a single suggestion of a better manager who we could realistically get.

So here's a thread for those who want rid of Wilder to name names.

Remember, in order to have a better record than Wilder, the proposed new manager would have to have a better record than this:

• Won promotion from all EFL divisions (Wilder's record: won promotion from League Two with Northampton, won promotion from League One with us, won promotion from the Championship with us).

• Won at least one EFL League with 99 points (Wilder's record: won League Two with 99 points with Northampton)

• Won at least one EFL League with 100 points (Wilder's record: won League One with 100 points with us)

• Won promotion from the Championship with at least 89 points (Wilder's record: won promotion from the Championship with 89 points with us)

• Accumulated at least 92 points in the Championship in one season (Wilder's record: accumulated 92 points in the Championship in one season with us)

• Won at least 28 matches in the Championship in one season (Wilder's record: won 28 matches in the Championship in one season with us)

• Achieved at least a ninth place finishing position in the Premier League (Wilder's record: achieved a ninth place finishing position in the Premier League with us)

• Won the LMA Manager of the Year Award at least once (Wilder's record: won the LMA Manager of the Year Award with us)

If anyone can suggest a manager who has achieved all of the achievements listed above, and more, this thread is your opportunity to name them.

As it seems unfair to ask others to name names without having a go at it myself, I've had a good think about this, and here is my list of all the managers I can think of with a better record than Wilder, who we could realistically get:
























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How about the fact the 3 sides promoted attacked with pace while we look to pass backwards when given the chance to attack.
Also our tactics yesterday from the start was to launch it up to Moore, now that might have been successful in the 80's and 90's but unfortunately Football has moved on and no Premiership or Top end Championship side plays this way.

 

[JT89]

You accuse my post of being ridiculous, then come out with this nonsense.

The position of first team manager at Sheffield United is not an entry-level role, or it shouldn't be.

Sheffield United is a decent sized, well-established, professional football club that has spent the vast majority of its existence in the top two flights of English football, and the role of first team manager at a club such as ours is a senior position. Any discussion of the position of first team manager, therefore, needs to take account of the seniority of the position, which makes your entry-level role 'quip' a nonsensical irrelevance.

As for your: "Wilder didn't have any of the achievements you list when we first appointed him." The second item on my list clearly states: "Wilder's record: won League Two with 99 points with Northampton." If you're going to accuse someone else's post of being ridiculous, at least get your facts right.

I never said the role of first team manager at Sheffield United is an entry-level role. Feel free to re-read my post and respond when you actually understand what I wrote.

 

[Bladepicker]

Liam Rosenior . Said it before . Learning on the continent. Hull major fuck up letting him go

Would have loved LR at the lane. Probably now out of our reach.

I'd bloody love Liam Rosenior in charge.

 

[Sportbilly /Detroit Blade]

 

[luffenhamblade]

Ozzy Osbourne, just trying to make some sense of this thread. We have a manager and (shock) he's pretty good!

 

[UTB Blade]

Lol at this.

It's at the heart of everything anti-progressive that is Sheffield United Football Club.

Imagine an up and coming manager with a better percentage win rate not getting a chance because they had'nt achieved anything yet.

If every club was like this you'd have dinosaurs managing every Championship club because at one point 20 years ago they got a promotion done.

Do not let past performances overshadow future ambition.

If you don't agree that there are highly rated up and coming managers then you're in denial.

Lol at this.

It's at the heart of everything anti-reasonable-discussion that is some posters on this board.

Imagine quoting and replying to someone's post, when you've not bothered to read it properly.

If every post was like this you'd have dinosaurs who don't read things properly, wittering on about things that were never mentioned in the post they're quoting, because they think it's funny to make irrelevant, disparaging remarks instead of engaging in reasonable discussion. (At no point in my post that you've quoted did I mention any manager who 'at one point 20 years ago got a promotion done'.)

Do not let your desire for an up and coming manager overshadow the fact that the current manager deserves respect for what he's achieved for this club.

If you don't agree that Chris Wilder has an exceptional record, and we're unlikely to get anyone better realistically speaking, you're in denial.

 

[100% part time blade]

At some point we will appoint a new manager.
The question is should we do it now.
You don’t sack a manager as a punishment because they’ve annoyed you, or because you’re mad that the club hasn’t won something.
You change the manager, ideally, at the time when it is most likely to lead to the club making progress. You want to do it when you have a really good appointment lined up, when you are in a position to give them time to set things up and attack the season, and when you have the funds to put plans into action. That time might be now.

Or it might not.

If it is judged that the club has made progress from last summer, and - despite missing promotion - is still on an upward trajectory under the current manager, then continuing with the current coaching team, and the stability that brings, seems reasonable. And changing manager is planned in for a later ideal date.


Obviously what we want to avoid is a slump in form, a slide towards regression, and a panicking mid-season appointment with no time, opportunity or money for a new manager to do anything at all other than fight fires.

It’s not about disrespect or ingratitude or disliking/liking of Wilder. It’s just a decision based on what is deemed to provide the best medium to long term outcomes for the club. Chris works in a high risk - high return business, as he well knows. He is very well paid for what he does, but he knows he could lose his position at any time - all football managers know this.

It’s not even about whether anyone thinks he did or a good bad job this season: it’s about could/would someone else (whom we could get) do a better job if appointed in his place next season. Obviously the starting point for that is how well he is judged to be doing right now, but that’s just the starting point, not the whole picture.

 

[Blade56]

oh dear.

Shirley the new owners will use data driven analytics to select new manager. Bit ironic if they us AI and get a foreign manager in after this comment….

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[luffenhamblade]

At some point we will appoint a new manager.
The question is should we do it now.
You don’t sack a manager as a punishment because they’ve annoyed you, or because you’re mad that the club hasn’t won something.
You change the manager, ideally, at the time when it is most likely to lead to the club making progress. You want to do it when you have a really good appointment lined up, when you are in a position to give them time to set things up and attack the season, and when you have the funds to put plans into action. That time might be now.

Or it might not.

If it is judged that the club has made progress from last summer, and - despite missing promotion - is still on an upward trajectory under the current manager, then continuing with the current coaching team, and the stability that brings, seems reasonable. And changing manager is planned in for a later ideal date.


Obviously what we want to avoid is a slump in form, a slide towards regression, and a panicking mid-season appointment with no time, opportunity or money for a new manager to do anything at all other than fight fires.

It’s not about disrespect or ingratitude or disliking/liking of Wilder. It’s just a decision based on what is deemed to provide the best medium to long term outcomes for the club. Chris works in a high risk - high return business, as he well knows. He is very well paid for what he does, but he knows he could lose his position at any time - all football managers know this.

It’s not even about whether anyone thinks he did or a good bad job this season: it’s about could/would someone else (whom we could get) do a better job if appointed in his place next season. Obviously the starting point for that is how well he is judged to be doing right now, but that’s just the starting point, not the whole picture.

If it is judged that the club has made progress from last summer, and - despite missing promotion - is still on an upward trajectory under the current manager, then continuing with the current coaching team, and the stability that brings, seems reasonable. And changing manager is planned in for a later ideal date.

Uhm if it is judged we are on an upward trajectory why would we consider changing manager for a later date? This thread is weird.Yes at some point we will appoint a new manager but that might be 10 years so why the issue now and a thread on it is bonkers. Anyway, enjoy yourselves.

 

[Tom Bott]

Shirley the new owners will use data driven analytics to select new manager. Bit ironic if they us AI and get a foreign manager in after this comment….

Would we appoint someone like Le Bris, who was sacked by Laurient after he got them relegated and had a 30% win ratio ?

 

[UTB Blade]

oh dear.

I presume your " oh dear" is your assumption that I didn't pick up on the sarcasm in your original post.

Obviously I picked up on it, as it's a bit difficult to miss the 'whack you over the head' level of sarcasm in "see, I know a good manager when I see one."

My reply to you was equally sarcastic, I just decided to use a more subtle level of sarcasm than a nine year old would use, which is presumably why you missed it. That was me being sarcastic, again, there, by the way, just in case you missed it.

Do you have any realistic manager suggestions, by the way, or are you content with your contribution to this thread being stupid childish remarks?

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

Had the 3rd biggest budget in the league. Finished 3rd playing a style of football that can kindly be described as cautious. Missed out on an automatic promotion race by refusing to commit to attacking and controlling games. Authored a fantastic turnaround by leaning into the obvious attacking strength of his team but then re-folded and curled up into a protective shell on the biggest stage.

Wasted a collosal Championship fee on Cannon that is, post non-promotion an unmitigated disaster. Refused to consider removing Robinson from the team despite his inability to play a forward pass to start an attack, despite having a better player available.

Never found a plan B for attacking without going through Hamer and preying. Rak-Sakyi (and maybe Brooks) was the only other player in the squad capable of creating a goal from nothing and he left him out of the squad for BBD who'd not played in a month and struggled in general.

What he did previously is irrelevant. The only question is whether he's capable of getting promotion next season with 3 PP teams + Birmingham. I don't think he will be

Absolutely. The best CV predictor of future behaviour, is last behaviour.

Nothing I've seen from Wilder this season leads me to believe he can evolve and adapt to modern football and beyond.

We ended the season no nearer knowing our strongest XI than game one, and with half the players unable to play more than 60 mins. His game day adjustments were appalling and again, the lack of physical performance was noticeable every time we played a 'big game'...

 

[Alex Cheeseright]

https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/qpr-frontrunner-pierre-sage-drops-major-hint-on-managerial-ambitions/

 

[Alex Cheeseright]

Pierre Sage ex Olympique Lyon. Wants to try his hand in the Championship. Hmmmmm.

 

[UTB Blade]

Comical, narrow-minded approach.

Manning got his team to the same point in the season as us, with a smaller budget, smaller squad, and definitively overall less valuable squad.

When he went into Bristol City, they were bottom half of the Championship, and had lost 5 of their previous 7 games. In the space of 18 months, he has gotten them to a point of having a shot at promotion to the Premier League.

You scoff at the 6-0 playoff scoreline, forgetting that at the point of the tie-changing moment, the red card and penalty award at the end of the first half, the score was 0-0 and highly in the balance. You forget that in the regular season, we were scraping a draw at Ashton Gate until they had a man sent off, at which point we were able to push on and get the win. You apparently easily forget that we were comfortably second best to them in the home fixture, when they got a thoroughly deserved equaliser. And you forget that in the home leg of the playoffs, we got to play a side without its strongest centre back (Dickie), one of its strongest midfielders (Williams, who hit the bar in the first leg), and with the luxury of being able to suckered punch them almost at will, given that they had to chase the game from 3 goals behind.

The finality with which you condemn my suggestion, and the supporting factors you give to do so, suggest that you do nothing but look at the league table to determine what makes a manager good or bad. Which is quite sad, in my opinion.

Southampton have just hired Will Still. A man who, by your apparent standards, is not good enough to polish Wilder's boots. But I'd be pretty confident in saying that if Wilder stays, and continues to play the way we've played this season, Southampton will wipe the floor with us next year.

Wilder this year has often seemed afraid to go for the jugular, to kill games off, while netting a hatful of goals. He's seemingly preferred to play it safe, and sneak wins, while occasionally getting the luxury of an extra goal to put the result out of our opponent's reach. That is just depressing to watch for me.

I want to go to a United game and enjoy being there. I want to walk out at full time with a smile on my face, having seen us win the game, and play entertaining football. Watching us pack our own half for the whole 2nd half while leading 1-0, is absolutely not that.

If you want to disregard Manning so wholeheartedly, be my guest. But bear in mind that, despite all those extra points, and despite that 6-0 aggregate victory, Wilder, just like Manning, has won fuck all this season. And the fact that he has done so, in spite of all the tools he has available to him, is not acceptable.

You call my approach comical and narrow-minded, and then have the nerve to dismiss all of Wilder's achievements, just because he "won fuck all this season." There is nothing more narrow-minded than dismissing someone's achievements, just because those achievements were earned earlier than a ridiculously narrow time frame (this season) that you've imposed on them.

As for comical, I value respect over comedy, so if my approach of having respect for someone who took the club I love from its lowest finishing position in about three decades (mid-table League 1 with Adkins), to its highest finishing position since the 1970s (9th in the PL), is comical, then I'll wear that badge with pride.

You sit around licking the arse of someone who's done nothing for this club, whilst scoffing and sneering at someone who's spent a good part of the last decade picking the club up off its arse, after we'd spent five horrific seasons in League One having our arses handed to us by Crawley and Yeovil, and then you have the gall to call my approach "quite sad". There's nothing sad about respecting someone who's spent much of his life looking after the club I love to the best of his ability.

If you want to disregard Chris Wilder's achievements so wholeheartedly, be my guest. But bear in mind that, despite your efforts on here to disrespect him, and despite the efforts of many others on here to do the same, you, just like all the others, have done fuck all that will diminish Chris Wilder's achievements one iota. And the fact that you have tried to do so, in spite of all he's done for this club, is not acceptable.

 

[Fjortoft's Aeroplane]

When I heard an absolute tit on Wembley Way, yesterday after the match, seriously telling a Sunderland fan that we would be better off with Röhl - who won 15 matches, accumulated 58 points, and finished in 12th last season - than Wilder - who won 28, accumulated 92, and finished 3rd - I thought that would be the most ridiculous manager suggestion I would hear this weekend. But you've certainly topped it, by suggesting the only one of the four Championship play off managers to get his arse spanked 6-0.

If you genuinely think a manager who accumulated 68 points in the Championship last season, is a better manager than one who accumulated 92 points, in the same division in the same season, and then got his arse spanked 6-0 aggregate by the 92 point manager , then there doesn't seem much point in discussing managers with you. You clearly prefer losers to winners, and that's not my mindset.

Fair play, though. Your: 'I'm an advocate for the manager who got his arse spanked 6-0, and who I freely admit certainly came off 2nd best to the manager I want to sack' will keep me amused for some time.

Compare the budget Manning had to work with to Wilder's budget. Manning has done an outstanding job over the season and lets not forget they had a man sent of in the 1st half of the 1st leg. No huge surprise they don't bother turning up in the 2nd leg being 3-0 down already. Also let's not forget the league game at the Lane where they played us off the park, Cooper makes save of the season and we get the jammiest of draws. However Manning has no track record spending money, so for that reason I'd prob look elsewhere but keep tabs on him.

 

[Fjortoft's Aeroplane]

As a few people have said it I have to ask:

Why should we give a stuff about quality of football?

By the way 92 points this season is irrelevant, we may have as well got 46 and finished 21st like Hull, the end outcome is the same= failure.

Because when promoted it's a horrific spirit crushing season of drubbings. So fair compensation for enduring that is being Brazil when in the Championship.

 

[moody1889]

If Leeds sack Farke i would go for him but failing that is there anyone else available that could take us up.

 

[Colombia Blade]

Which manager is there that is a) out of work, b) knows how to get teams promoted from the Championship, c) can win a play off final, and d) excels with a 4-2-3-1 formation? Step forward the only candidate we need to be looking at!

 

[Charlieblade]

We lost.
Don’t mention points deductions.
Don’t blame VAR.
We lost.
We are disappointed.
It’s only football.Get over it, because nothing happens now.

 

[Shadota]

You call my approach comical and narrow-minded, and then have the nerve to dismiss all of Wilder's achievements, just because he "won fuck all this season." There is nothing more narrow-minded than dismissing someone's achievements, just because those achievements were earned earlier than a ridiculously narrow time frame (this season) that you've imposed on them.

As for comical, I value respect over comedy, so if my approach of having respect for someone who took the club I love from its lowest finishing position in about three decades (mid-table League 1 with Adkins), to its highest finishing position since the 1970s (9th in the PL), is comical, then I'll wear that badge with pride.

You sit around licking the arse of someone who's done nothing for this club, whilst scoffing and sneering at someone who's spent a good part of the last decade picking the club up off its arse, after we'd spent five horrific seasons in League One having our arses handed to us by Crawley and Yeovil, and then you have the gall to call my approach "quite sad". There's nothing sad about respecting someone who's spent much of his life looking after the club I love to the best of his ability.

If you want to disregard Chris Wilder's achievements so wholeheartedly, be my guest. But bear in mind that, despite your efforts on here to disrespect him, and despite the efforts of many others on here to do the same, you, just like all the others, have done fuck all that will diminish Chris Wilder's achievements one iota. And the fact that you have tried to do so, in spite of all he's done for this club, is not acceptable.

I don't understand why you're so insulted that I want a change. It's not as if I've shit on everything he's ever done!

I have complete respect fir his past achievements, especially those that happened while united manager. It is simply my opinion that his approach this season has been suboptimal at best, and that a different manager would do better with the resources available. Which is usually the reason why managers get sacked.

If we adopted your thinking across football more widely, Leicester wouldn't have sacked Ranieri the season after they won the league. And they would have been relegated for it. So was it a mistake to sack him?

I want United to be the best it can be, and I believe now that that is without Wilder in charge. That isn't a slight on what he did before- those triumphs just don't give his failures a free pass.

 

[UTB Blade]

Do the players each manager has at their disposal not count? I have no feelings on Manning but Wilder had the 3rd biggest budget, 3rd best squad, got a huge amount of £ in January, the team then got worse, finished 3rd, finally started attacking and playing well then went back to being timid and his team folded in the biggest game.

It's been a par season that's ultimately a failure

When did we get so entitled and arrogant that every season we spend in the Championship without getting promoted, is deemed a failure?

This bit not aimed at you, Carlton Blade, but it's like S6 levels of entitlement and arrogance on this board at times these days, and it's unpleasant to see.

 

[The Crab]

Comical, narrow-minded approach.

Manning got his team to the same point in the season as us, with a smaller budget, smaller squad, and definitively overall less valuable squad.

When he went into Bristol City, they were bottom half of the Championship, and had lost 5 of their previous 7 games. In the space of 18 months, he has gotten them to a point of having a shot at promotion to the Premier League.

You scoff at the 6-0 playoff scoreline, forgetting that at the point of the tie-changing moment, the red card and penalty award at the end of the first half, the score was 0-0 and highly in the balance. You forget that in the regular season, we were scraping a draw at Ashton Gate until they had a man sent off, at which point we were able to push on and get the win. You apparently easily forget that we were comfortably second best to them in the home fixture, when they got a thoroughly deserved equaliser. And you forget that in the home leg of the playoffs, we got to play a side without its strongest centre back (Dickie), one of its strongest midfielders (Williams, who hit the bar in the first leg), and with the luxury of being able to suckered punch them almost at will, given that they had to chase the game from 3 goals behind.

The finality with which you condemn my suggestion, and the supporting factors you give to do so, suggest that you do nothing but look at the league table to determine what makes a manager good or bad. Which is quite sad, in my opinion.

Southampton have just hired Will Still. A man who, by your apparent standards, is not good enough to polish Wilder's boots. But I'd be pretty confident in saying that if Wilder stays, and continues to play the way we've played this season, Southampton will wipe the floor with us next year.

Wilder this year has often seemed afraid to go for the jugular, to kill games off, while netting a hatful of goals. He's seemingly preferred to play it safe, and sneak wins, while occasionally getting the luxury of an extra goal to put the result out of our opponent's reach. That is just depressing to watch for me.

I want to go to a United game and enjoy being there. I want to walk out at full time with a smile on my face, having seen us win the game, and play entertaining football. Watching us pack our own half for the whole 2nd half while leading 1-0, is absolutely not that.

If you want to disregard Manning so wholeheartedly, be my guest. But bear in mind that, despite all those extra points, and despite that 6-0 aggregate victory, Wilder, just like Manning, has won fuck all this season. And the fact that he has done so, in spite of all the tools he has available to him, is not acceptable.

Looks like Manning is off to Norwich

 

[UTB Blade]

You're either choosing to misread my comments or failing to see beyond your own limitations.

Firstly, no one will realistically know what a new appointment will bring to this club. All the fine words at interview stage will vanish
if there's no visible sign of progress within 2-6 months. I'm sure David Weir sold himself to the board as the man capable of delivering success but we all know how that turned out.

I never suggested swapping managers for the sake of doing so, but to tactically to insist on Robinson's inclusion, to play Hamer out of position, to even consider BBD when he was clearly not able, these are some of the tactical failings that need to be discussed if a healthy
decision is reached about retaining Wilder or allowing someone else to take over.

Past achievements only take any manager so far, once that is exhausted then the reality of what's needed cannot be avoided.

My apologies, itsinyourblood - I know it wasn't you who suggested swapping managers for the sake of doing so.

I did say in my previous reply to you that "it seems many on here just want to make change for change's sake", not that you wanted to, but as I put it in my reply to you, I can see why you'd think it was aimed at you - it wasn't. I just got carried away with my train of thought, and included a general comment, not aimed at you or any particular poster, on the end of my reply to you.

Also, I'm certainly not choosing to misread your comments.
You've chosen to take part in the debate in a reasonable manner, as I think you always do, and I appreciate that and value your opinion.

And, yes, it's possible that I'm failing to see beyond my own limitations as far as Wilder is concerned - we had such a long list of abject failures before Wilder's arrival (you mention David Weir ), and the thought of going back to those pre-Wilder days, stuck in League One, with seemingly no hope of ever getting out, makes me shudder. I appreciate that at some point we're going to have to risk that, because we can't keep the same manager forever, but now doesn't feel like the right time to me. To get rid of a manager who had such a successful season with us in terms of the regular season, because he fell at the final hurdle of the play offs, just feels like throwing the baby out with the bath water to me, but I appreciate others feel differently

 

[The Crab]

I'd bloody love Liam Rosenior in charge.

Me too, but his upward trajectory has taken him above us I would say.

His next job will be a big one

 

[JD88]

Would be astonished if we changed manager. But I do think he has to get promoted next year, would be interesting what happens if we start poor though, would the owners then change.

 

[UTB Blade]

FFS it’s not about Wilder and his feckin achievements, it’s about Sheffield United FC, we want better, modern today football and achievements not a history lesson, you can’t change what’s happed but you can make changes to has yet to happen.

I get it he’s a great bloke, one of us, etc. But he’s not the man to take us into a new era, just and old one.

I’m a SUFC supporter not a Wilder fan boy

Curiously enough I'm also a Sheffield United supporter, and it's because I'm a Sheffield United supporter that I appreciate what Chris Wilder has done for this club.

But by all means, if you don't want a history lesson, let's replace a proven manager, with some fuckwit whose managerial abilities amount to a season faffing about on Football Manager 2024 in his bedroom on school nights, because he's modern.

Good idea, and when we've done that we can appoint my 8 year old niece as Chief Medical Officer because she beat me at Operation last week, and she's modern. After all, that Chris Witty fellow looks a bit old to me, what with his bald head and all, and since senior professionals' qualifications and experience are irrelevant, and certainly less important than being modern, according to the geniuses on here, my niece is sure to make a better job of it!

FFS

By the way, do you have any suggestions for actual names of actual realistic managerial targets, or are you just going to keep banging on about getting rid of Wilder because you're not a Wilder fan boy and you don't want a history lesson, without giving any serious consideration to who we could realistically replace him with, other than 'someone modern'?

FFS

Seriously, Blade 56, I remember a post of yours on Bladesmad, back in its heyday, the night we lost to Crawley Town in the match that resulted in Danny Wilson's sacking in 2013. That post has stayed with me all these years, because you were so disgusted with our abysmal performance that night, and you talked about how disgusted you were that what you termed 'Crawley's Morris Dancing Team' were laughing at us, because we were so poor. Do you really want to risk going back to those days, by replacing Wilder with some clown (pun intended) of uncertain managerial provenance, just for the sake of being modern, without giving it proper, serious thought?

 

[UTB Blade]

I never said the role of first team manager at Sheffield United is an entry-level role. Feel free to re-read my post and respond when you actually understand what I wrote.

I know you never said the manager of Sheffield United is an entry-level role. You went wittering on about entry-level role memes, on a thread whose subject is the position of manager at Sheffield United, a position that is clearly not an entry-level role, which is why I termed your entry-level role 'quip' irrelevant.

As for your: "Feel free to re-read my post and respond when you actually understand what I wrote." You've got a nerve telling someone else to re-read your post, and casting aspersions about their ability to understand things, when you haven't bothered either to read their post properly, nor to get your facts right, when replying to them. As I said in my previous reply to you, your statement that: "Wilder didn't have any of the achievements you list when we first appointed him." is patently untrue, as my list clearly included Wilder's achievement of winning League Two with Northampton with 99 points, which happened before we first appointed him.

So, no, I won't be re-reading the posts of, nor replying further, to someone whose only contribution to this thread has been to ridicule and take snide digs at me and my posts, instead of engaging in meaningful, reasonable discussion, as others on this thread have managed to do, and as is meant to be the purpose of this forum

 

[UTB Blade]

If it is judged that the club has made progress from last summer, and - despite missing promotion - is still on an upward trajectory under the current manager, then continuing with the current coaching team, and the stability that brings, seems reasonable. And changing manager is planned in for a later ideal date.

Uhm if it is judged we are on an upward trajectory why would we consider changing manager for a later date? This thread is weird.Yes at some point we will appoint a new manager but that might be 10 years so why the issue now and a thread on it is bonkers. Anyway, enjoy yourselves.

Just to make it clear - I do not want a change of manager.

This thread was, in part, my attempt to understand why others do want a change of manager, when nobody seems to be able to suggest a potential new manager who is better than the one we've got.

The thread was also my attempt to get those who do want a change of manager, to put their money where their mouth is, by naming a potential new manager who's better than the one we've got. As I suspected, nobody's been able to do that, yet, but I doubt that will stop them banging on about wanting to shove the current manager out of the door, morning, noon and night, because they can't cope with losing another play off final.