FAO Those who used their phones as flashlights

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

I have seen kids playing on iPads and smart phones during a match. It makes me wonder why some people bother bringing their kids to a match.

Is it any different from when everybody stood, and plenty of kids ran around most of the match?

 

[shorehamview]

...and nerves. Crushing, overwhelming, throat-strangling, limb-paralysing nerves.

That's your bladder letting you know it needs emptying. Welcome to middle age. The grumpiness is optional, by the way.

 

[wizadry]

Yes, whenever we're winning there's no need to support the team because they don't need it.

And when we're drawing everyone is too on edge to make any noise.

And when we're losing they're obviously playing too shit to deserve our support.

Sure it'll get better though. Magically.

I'm sorry nick but to be quite honest that's complete bollocks that surely only one or two would have agreed to in their time of supporting the Blades.

The Blades fans can and have been the twelfth man so to speak on many, many occasions over the years. On the whole this season we really haven't needed to be. Don't get me wrong, I love a great atmosphere as much as you obviously do but after a grooling day at work which I'd had yesterday, I wanted to just watch a game of football and hopefully cheer the Blades on to a win without feeling the need to be jumping up and down singing songs at the top of my voice if I really didn't feel the need to and I didn't need to last night.

It was a Tuesday night and rest assured I feel a whole lot different on a weekend game, more refreshed, energetic and not rushing about having just finished work, that is my take on it anyway.

Next season when we are the underdogs most weeks the atmosphere will be a lot better, it won't be down to any magical theories but it will be a lot better and if you don't believe me then I can't do nothing for you. The Blades are very dangerous as a club when nothings expected, trust me!

 

[wizadry]

Next season?!

I thought the atmosphere was going to improve when the nerves disappear?!

I honestly don't know what this nervous shite is that you and a few others keep mentioning Rodley.

 

[BushBlade]

Interesting that in Wilder's pre match interview he made a big thing of wanting the crowd to get behind the team to "get us over the line" yet it would appear this had little effect on the fans last night. He's probably wondering after taking us from the bottom of the league to nailed on promotion what more he has to do to get a reaction and a more supportive atmosphere for the team.

For those saying its always been like this just watch some of the old match videos Walthy posts on here, it wasn't. There was one recently of a match agaiinst Swansea, they brought no fans, there were far fewer than 20 k and yet you can hear our fans singing along all match and getting behind the team. Its how I remember many previous decades.

How times have changed.
Yours, a boring old but noisy fart.

It's a shame there weren't more videos of the Porterfield years in the third division because the atmosphere at some of those games was dire. But it was still better than the sty. (And the crowd at some of our games was immense tbf)

 

[Pinchy]

I'm sorry nick but to be quite honest that's complete bollocks that surely only one or two would have agreed to in their time of supporting the Blades.

The Blades fans can and have been the twelfth man so to speak on many, many occasions over the years. On the whole this season we really haven't needed to be. Don't get me wrong, I love a great atmosphere as much as you obviously do but after a grooling day at work which I'd had yesterday, I wanted to just watch a game of football and hopefully cheer the Blades on to a win without feeling the need to be jumping up and down singing songs at the top of my voice if I really didn't feel the need to and I didn't need to last night.

It was a Tuesday night and rest assured I feel a whole lot different on a weekend game, more refreshed, energetic and not rushing about having just finished work, that is my take on it anyway.

Next season when we are the underdogs most weeks the atmosphere will be a lot better, it won't be down to any magical theories but it will be a lot better and if you don't believe me then I can't do nothing for you. The Blades are very dangerous as a club when nothings expected, trust me!

Sorry Wiz, I don't agree with much of that at all. All the 'bollocks' you refer to have been suggested on here many times as woeful, rather embarrassing excuses for the Lane Library not getting behind our team. Your 'hard day at work' is yet another and just as bad, I'm afraid. Our following is superb in terms of numbers but really poor in terms of actually encouraging the team at matches. Oldham was another example. I'd prefer us to abandon the lame excuses, forget the nerves and up the volume.

As to next season, I don't think we'll be underdogs very often at all and, contrary to the unique Bladey view, I have no wish to be. Let's see what sort of team we have in August before getting all Upanatem.

 

[wizadry]

Sorry Wiz, I don't agree with much of that at all. All the 'bollocks' you refer to have been suggested on here many times as woeful, rather embarrassing excuses for the Lane Library not getting behind our team. Your 'hard day at work' is yet another and just as bad, I'm afraid. Our following is superb in terms of numbers but really poor in terms of actually encouraging the team at matches. Oldham was another example. I'd prefer us to abandon the lame excuses, forget the nerves and up the volume.

As to next season, I don't think we'll be underdogs very often at all and, contrary to the unique Bladey view, I have no wish to be. Let's see what sort of team we have in August before getting all Upanatem.

On the atmosphere point, it's not been the best for large parts of the season on our own patch. I'm not going to hide this view but i'm looking at it from other peoples point of view and not from people complaining about it on here and probably not wanting to create an atmosphere themselves.

I think we've been very good away from home on every occasion I've been anyway, atmosphere wise and numbers. Charlton, P'Boro and Bury being my personal favourites along with Scunny from the home section, the Blades were in fine voice. I wasn't at Oldham so I can't comment.

Next seasons atmosphere will have nothing to do with the Bladey inferiority complex from me. We will, in atleast the first month or two be the underdogs until we establish ourselves as a Championship club again, that should go without saying and that's when you'll see the Blades ramp up the volume in the home sections of Bramall Lane, I have no doubt about it.

My hard day at work excuse might have been lame but that game was like a walk in the park last night at times and you will hear my voice when the lads need it whether I've had an hard day or not. The main point is that they didn't need me last night and I don't think they'll ever need me.

With how many people complaining about it on here though, why don't you all get seats together and create some sort of Ultras group?

 

[snootyfenooty]

Some people don't half spout some fucking shit. How the fuck is someone shining a torch, a fucking weak as shit phone torch at that, at the other end of the pitch going to induce an epilepsy attack on someone. What about the fucking floodlights, should we ban night matches now that we've found another example of things to be outraged and disgusted about. Or should we just ban light altogether, daylight, moonlight or even fireworks, whatever.

FFS

 

[wizadry]

Some people don't half spout some fucking shit. How the fuck is someone shining a torch, a fucking weak as shit phone torch at that, at the other end of the pitch going to induce an epilepsy attack on someone. What about the fucking floodlights, should we ban night matches now that we've found another example of things to be outraged and disgusted about. Or should we just ban light altogether, daylight, moonlight or even fireworks, whatever.

FFS

The floodlights stay lit and still, have a think about what you're saying and try to understand for one minute what people with epilepsy go through. Talk about spouting shite. FFS!

 

[BanbridgeBlade]

I have seen kids playing on iPads and smart phones during a match. It makes me wonder why some people bother bringing their kids to a match.

My earliest memory is being taken to the lane & playing footie at the bottom of the Kop with a can or sometimes a spare ball. While my dad watched the team he's supported for years from the terraces.

Now I take my young lad & if he wants to play his phone for a bit while I watch the team I love, i'll let him.

Whether we like it or not these things help their matchday experience & in turn they will come back interested in the match.

As a side note I think the light thing is shit!!!!

 

[Cerberus Blade]

Saw it. Didn't bother me one bit. If the kids enjoyed it fine. Doesn't harm anyone - including epileptics. If you don't like it fair enough. Nothing to get upset about though.

Surely?

 

[Pinchy]

Some people don't half spout some fucking shit. How the fuck is someone shining a torch, a fucking weak as shit phone torch at that, at the other end of the pitch going to induce an epilepsy attack on someone. What about the fucking floodlights, should we ban night matches now that we've found another example of things to be outraged and disgusted about. Or should we just ban light altogether, daylight, moonlight or even fireworks, whatever.

FFS

I did suggest to the LADS [Loonies Against Desso Society - current membership 1.5] that they ought to campaign against floodlights as well. They cost a fortune to power. We had to sell Alf Common for £500 in 1904 to pay the YEB.

Who needs good pitches and artificial light, anyway?

 

[snootyfenooty]

The floodlights stay lit and still, have a think about what you're saying and try to understand for one minute what people with epilepsy go through. Talk about spouting shite. FFS!

Moving lights now? Yeah OK then. So now we should ban car headlights, police beacons, ambulance beacons, fireworks blah blah. I suffer from hypertension and my blood pressure goes off scale so I've been taking pills non-stop for 20 years now. So when I'm out and about now could you forewarn the rest of the world to keep their brats under control, stop beeping horns and to stop chucking litter about. Oh, and 57 years of going to watch SUFC hasn't helped the stress levels either.

Try and understand what you are saying, we can all live in dark caves or we can take a punt on stepping outside the front door. Banning kids using phone torches? Good luck with that.

 

[Bladesman]

Last Sunday, I went in the Shiny Sheff which has just had a bit of a re-furb. It's now 'child friendly' with a play area, swings etc. outside. So far, so bad. But inside they've got screens on the wall next to some tables which are computers. Kids can sit there with their permanently-blank faces looking at Facefuck and using Twatter. It's all a surrogate baby-sitter for parents who don't give a fuck. The art of conversation is dying out. We're all doomed.

I went out to a restaurant at the weekend and saw some parents just put a phone and tablet on the table with a tv show on in front of their two kids. Then they totally blanked their kids as if they were no longer there.

 

[blade67]

I thought something strange was going on but didn't quite figure it out due to being engrossed in watching the thing I'd paid to see.

Just a couple of questions regarding this thread though.

1. Do you think it's just kids spending all the match on their phones/devices? It certainly isn't, the bloke behind me can recite every score at every game going on due to never looking away from his screen.
2. How the hell can we improve the atmosphere? I'm really worried it's stopping the team.
3. What or who are the "PC Brigade" and how do you get to join?

two blokes next to me spent most of the 2nd half looking at this TETRIS style thing on their phones and discussing how to complete the puzzle

Turns out they were trying to but tickets to the Kell Brook fight. Turned up late, left early. totally amazes me why they bother

 

[wizadry]

Moving lights now? Yeah OK then. So now we should ban car headlights, police beacons, ambulance beacons, fireworks blah blah. I suffer from hypertension and my blood pressure goes off scale so I've been taking pills non-stop for 20 years now. So when I'm out and about now could you forewarn the rest of the world to keep their brats under control, stop beeping horns and to stop chucking litter about. Oh, and 57 years of going to watch SUFC hasn't helped the stress levels either.

Try and understand what you are saying, we can all live in dark caves or we can take a punt on stepping outside the front door. Banning kids using phone torches? Good luck with that.

I'll leave it at that snooty, I can't see no light at the end of the tunnel or cave on this one.

 

[metalblade]

This thread .......................................... I'm lost for words kin hell get a grip people.

 

[nicksufc]

1. No. Boring is watching Blackwell inspired hoof/harry/scrap for 90 minutes, 46 games a season, with no respite.
2. I may do, but mainly because the "atmosphere" will generally because we've played well, in an important game, against a team with a decent following. It looks after itself.
3. No, it really doesn't. Taking over 5k to Villa Park for a 70's FA Cup tie against a team in a lower division and losing 4-1 wasn't helped at all. That's just one example of many believe me.

To expect an "atmosphere" in a Tuesday night stroll against a team with no support and little ambition is not going to happen in modern post 1980's football. Anywhere.

Well maybe we can agree to disagree, but I think watching football in total silence can be very boring. It's all part of the fun.

Why do we need so many reasons to make any noise? It was a huge game last night but totally dead atmosphere, 4,000 away fans wouldn't have changed that. We should be able to make some noise without away fans, seriously.

Personally I've been across Europe watching teams in Germany, France, Spain, Serbia, Poland and beyond - and the atmosphere in these grounds for non-descript games with no away fans was off the scale. So it's very possible - I just wish I could be proud of the atmosphere our fans create, but I'm not. People on here say we have some of the best supporters in the land but we quite clearly don't. Numbers-wise, incredible. Noise-wise, embarrassing.

 

[nicksufc]

two blokes next to me spent most of the 2nd half looking at this TETRIS style thing on their phones and discussing how to complete the puzzle

Turns out they were trying to but tickets to the Kell Brook fight. Turned up late, left early. totally amazes me why they bother

Sums our support up - turn up in huge numbers and sit there disinterested for 90 minutes.

 

[blade67]

Well maybe we can agree to disagree, but I think watching football in total silence can be very boring. It's all part of the fun.

Why do we need so many reasons to make any noise? It was a huge game last night but totally dead atmosphere, 4,000 away fans wouldn't have changed that. We should be able to make some noise without away fans, seriously.

Personally I've been across Europe watching teams in Germany, France, Spain, Serbia, Poland and beyond - and the atmosphere in these grounds for non-descript games with no away fans was off the scale. So it's very possible - I just wish I could be proud of the atmosphere our fans create, but I'm not. People on here say we have some of the best supporters in the land but we quite clearly don't. Numbers-wise, incredible. Noise-wise, embarrassing.

Nick

I think you are being a bit harsh.

The fans did a real good job versus Charlton but last night was odd given the run we are on. Maybe nerves were on edge. Hopefully we'll be more up for it next Wednesday.

I did wonder if what the fans really needed was a backs against the wall scrap to get them going as it was a bit of a coast to victory. I remember the hull game on the way to the premier league being a bit of a rollercoaster. This team isn't making that emotional

 

[snootyfenooty]

Just to round things off, we should be mindful of the fact that the pigs thought of it first and we're only copying them.

 

[Tyler Durden]

Well here we are in 2017. Between the torch-wankers, the old "Gi us summat to shout abaht" trogolodytes and the teeny cunts who won't sing anything if they haven't heard it on Twitter first, this is the situation we are in.
Nerves don't really come into it. Modern English football support being the worst in Europe is the only explanation required.

 

[snootyfenooty]

Modern English football support being the worst in Europe is the only explanation required.

Nah, don't tar everyone with United's brush. Half of 'em only turn up for a moan, been the case for as long as I can remember!

 

[Tyler Durden]

Nah, don't tar everyone with United's brush. Half of 'em only turn up for a moan, been the case for as long as I can remember!

You're probably right, I'm surrounded by the bastards. It gets very draining after a while.

 

[Cradleyblade]

All this talk of a lack of atmosphere, whose fault, how it can be improved, nerves, etc really all boils down to the fact that since we became all seater there isn't the bond that was formed by people on the Kop when we were all crushed together standing. You were in a crowd and reasonably anonymous, the Kop was dark and you didn't feel as exposed as you do sitting. This made it more conducive to starting chants as you weren't as exposed and didn't feel as though the focus was on you as well as the fact you chose were to stand and those that wanted to chant usually stood together in the middle of the Kop and there were many wiling (such as Shred) to start chants. Until safe standing areas are introduced I feel that atmospheres at all grounds are likely to suffer and won't improve until such time.

 

[metalblade]

So we were quiet then the last time we won a promotion or the season in the premiership? we had seats then and the noise was deafening at times, nothing to do with standing at all more like it is the PC brigade at fault.
I was in H block south stand for the Bolton game when the "your fuckin shit" chant started aimed at the away fans half the people were looking round in horror, Jesus it is a football match not a Darby & Joan day out you should expect a bit of industrial language. God help anyone jumping up and screaming a bit of abuse at the ref everyone turns and stares as if the bloke has two heads you really do sometimes feel out of place getting behind the team due to the disapproving stares.

 

[Hamburg Blade]

As long as no one has the bright idea of taking a drum to get things going.

 

[FMBlade1]

REMINDER

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

I did turn to my mate...."I wish they'd turn them fucking torches off"

 

[Ricky]

Sums our support up - turn up in huge numbers and sit there disinterested for 90 minutes.

And one promotion and 9 months later..... nothing's changed.