Confirmed released list

[Darthblade]

Scougall does have the fitness that's required from Wilder's high tempo style. It will be interesting to see if Wilder is willing to give him a chance.

As someone else said, Wilder publicly criticised and transfer listed O'Toole at Northampton, which made him work harder, get and take his chance, and he eventually became a vital player who got double figures from midfield as they won the title. He may be hoping for a similar reaction from one or two of the transfer listed players, possibly De Girolamo or Freeman.

Despite the annoying thing with Hammond, I agree 100% with every decision from Wilder today, and it's not just because I'm fed up with the current bunch of players. Wilder clearly has an idea of which players are suited to his style of football, and won't settle for players who may be "okay".

I doubt very much that either deGiralamo or Freeman will be able to break into what (hopefully ) will be a promotion challenging squad and neither will Scougal and possibly even Done.

the clear-out is a well needed, overdue process and better, more consistent players will hopefully be acquired.

UTB & FTP

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

Hes not a robot.

Hes a human being with a young family.

Yes he is a shit footballer and has no place in our upwardly mobile squad going forwards, but I don't blame him. As I say, I would defy any Blades fan to put the long term financial interest and stability of his/her family below the interests of the football club. And no one would expect it.

Hammond isn't even a fan so who could blame him for not giving a shit.

The blame is with Adkins and anyone else responsible for what I will now refer to as the madness clause.

UTB.

Are you pissed or taking the fucking piss. I couldn't care a flying fuck about Hammond .

Thanks for the joke post .

 

[Esablade]

I don't see it that way. I think it's a very smart move.

Transfer list them now when they are nowhere near the club to cause disruption.

It will be preying on their minds and their agents will be agitating for a move, so there are bound to be discussions before anyone is required back for training.

If Hammond is signed on big wages, we're fucked with him as no one else will take him. But I can see most of the others trying to get themselves fixed up.

UTB

Good point.

Coutts is only 27...if he's not training and frozen out he'll soon get the message...he'll want to to be playing somewhere...bit different with Hammond...but I'm sure he'll want to be working...I've a feeling come the end of August this will be mostly sorted.

UTB!

 

[Woodwardfan]

During the negotiations to get Hammond to extend his loan deal with us our manager, Adkins, was deperate to secure his talisman both for the remainder of last season and then for next season which was intended to be in the Championship.

Adkins was so keen on Hammond for last and next seasons that he will have insisted on the contract and who can blame any player doing the best for himself in positive circumastances, good club, good salary, leadership role with a manager who idolises him. The technical committee will always be dominated by the football manager despite all the fine words by McCabe. Refuse him his talisman and the manager would thraeten to resign claiming no financial backing from the owners.

In January nobody foresaw just how seriously Adkins, United and particularly Hammond would all disintegrate. It is true Hammond had not been very good for us before January but nobody thought he didn't have more to offer once he gained full match fitness.

The Hammond situation was possibly the final straw after such a disjointed, shambolic second half of the season. Looking at it in retrospect the obligation to have to sign Hammond now beggars belief but anybody who expects the player to reject a lucrative contract, whilst fully aware his playing days are numbered, is living in cloud cuckoo land.

Adkins acted in good faith, it's certainly evidence that he didn't know what he was doing though.

 

[Bert]

Are you pissed or taking the fucking piss. I couldn't care a flying fuck about Hammond .

Thanks for the joke post .

He's a footballer who plays for money, just like most people who go to work.
He didn't write his own contract, he's just taken up an option that was offered to him when he signed.

 

[longinthe toothblade]

Why sign on somewhere you are so universally, dare I say unanimously disliked??

money

 

[UnitedBlade]

Presumably the Hammond deal was inserted in one of his loan deals when we thought Hammond was going to be better than it turned out to be. Hindsight is a wonderful thing and no doubt Adkins was so desperate to sign Hammond that Hammond got whatever he wanted, within reason. Its a disgrace that Hammond has inserted this, but its not unusual to see a certain amount of performances trigger another deal. Personally I want to see players signed on merit, not on a clause being triggered. McDonald screwed us over with his clause for a release, now Hammond's done the same, but this time to stay!

On December 28, we'd just won 3 games in a row and were one point off 6th spot with a game in hand.

I reckon the deal was done around this time because all parties involved thought it was a good deal.

How wrong coudl everyone be but you can see why they might have thought it was a good move.

What happened next confirmed it wasn't.

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

He's a footballer who plays for money, just like most people who go to work.
He didn't write his own contract, he's just taken up an option that was offered to him when he signed.

Bert , some of us have morals . Hammond has none . I forgot that footballers just get the minimum wage .

Let's get real . Mercenary is too nicer word .

Anyone who agrees with Hammonds decision , well what more can one say .

Nice one Bert.

 

[DronnieBlade]

Are you pissed or taking the fucking piss. I couldn't care a flying fuck about Hammond .

Thanks for the joke post .

You blame Hammond for signing the deal. That is your prerogative.

I put it to you that he was putting his own interest first. As would anyone else when push comes to shove. We won't be talking minimum wage here. The contract will be for either 1 or 2 years and will be in excess of £500,000 p.a.

An option was there, he took it. End of.

Would you turn down a contract this size when you know, in your own mind, and beyond a reasonable doubt, that no other employer in the world would be prepared to pay you anywhere near that amount ?

One last pay day !!

No, me neither.

UTB.

 

[United Aren't Back.]

should be noted that Dean Hammond has decided to activate his option of a permanent Blades contract and George Long has been offered new terms.


Alex Baptiste, David Edgar and Conor Sammon have left the club following their loan deals.


These players have been released:

Mark Howard, Bob Harris, Callum McFadzean, Terry Kennedy, Harrison McGahey, Jay McEveley, Florent Cuvelier, Ryan Flynn, Jose Baxter and Jamal Campbell-Ryce.


Additionally, the following players have been notified that they have been transfer listed:

Kieron Freeman, Kieran Wallace, James Wallace, Dean Hammond, Paul Coutts, Martyn Woolford and Diego De Girolamo.

That is the best news I have had since Clough took over. Brilliant Tufty Wilder.

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

You blame Hammond for signing the deal. That is your prerogative.

I put it to you that he was putting his own interest first. As would anyone else when push comes to shove. We won't be talking minimum wage here. The contract will be for either 1 or 2 years and will be in excess of £500,000 p.a.

An option was there, he took it. End of.

Would you turn down a contract this size when you know, in your own mind, and beyond a reasonable doubt, that no other employer in the world would be prepared to pay you anywhere near that amount ?

One last pay day !!

No, me neither.

UTB.

Dronnie . Apologies for having a go earlier. , but you just could not make this up .

I would just freeze him out . One last pay day , ok , but the guy is not on a minimum wage , or short of money .

He must have broad shoulders and just could not care a fuck what anyone thinks of him .

Also where's WHF gone , I blame him.

UTB

 

[Woodwardfan]

Bert , some of us have morals . Hammond has none . I forgot that footballers just get the minimum wage .

Let's get real . Mercenary is too nicer word .

Anyone who agrees with Hammonds decision , well what more can one say .

Nice one Bert.

My Lord, a contract is a contract and Hammond has nowhere else to go as will be proved by interest in him on the transfer list.

I suggest anyone who disagrees with his approach, well what more can I say.

Well, let's imagine what Mrs Hammond would say if her hubby went home tonight and told her that he had torn up that amazing contract they had celebrated last January, oh and by the way, I'm not very hopeful that any other club will ever want me to play for them.

Come on My Lord. We don't like it but it's just as it has worked out and Hammond will be as upset about it as anyone, albeit with the financial consolation that he negotiated last January tempering the disappointment though.

 

[Bert]

Bert , some of us have morals . Hammond has none . I forgot that footballers just get the minimum wage .

Let's get real . Mercenary is too nicer word .

Anyone who agrees with Hammonds decision , well what more can one say .

Nice one Bert.

It's business, Bert would like to see the back of him but not for one minute does Bert blame him for what he's done. The money is on offer so he's taken it.

 

[United Aren't Back.]

Hammond's choice to sign permanently? You couldn't fucking make it up.

Thanks a lot Nigel.

Fuck you, Dean.

And the same to Nigels 2 and 3 who together gave us this pile of raw sewage we call the team.

 

[Worksop II]

I'm not very hopeful that any other club will ever want me to play for them

I am very hopeful that the Club he has signed for, never plays him again .............................. maybe once, just for a vent

 

[United Aren't Back.]

Urgh, Clough said 2 years with an option of a third year. Looks like either Clough is either a liar or Wallace is an arse.

http://www.s24su.com/forum/index.php?threads/james-wallace.44351/page-7#post-950784

You're warm...it's both.

 

[Lord Eddard Muir]

The St Alcuin's Day Massacre.

The Night of the Long Blades.

 

[PeteBlade]

My Lord, a contract is a contract and Hammond has nowhere else to go as will be proved by interest in him on the transfer list.

I suggest anyone who disagrees with his approach, well what more can I say.

Well, let's imagine what Mrs Hammond would say if her hubby went home tonight and told her that he had torn up that amazing contract they had celebrated last January, oh and by the way, I'm not very hopeful that any other club will ever want me to play for them.

Come on My Lord. We don't like it but it's just as it has worked out and Hammond will be as upset about it as anyone, albeit with the financial consolation that he negotiated last January tempering the disappointment though.

All I know for definite, is that this would never have happened if you were the MD..

 

[zablade]

My Lord, a contract is a contract and Hammond has nowhere else to go as will be proved by interest in him on the transfer list.

I suggest anyone who disagrees with his approach, well what more can I say.

Well, let's imagine what Mrs Hammond would say if her hubby went home tonight and told her that he had torn up that amazing contract they had celebrated last January, oh and by the way, I'm not very hopeful that any other club will ever want me to play for them.

Come on My Lord. We don't like it but it's just as it has worked out and Hammond will be as upset about it as anyone, albeit with the financial consolation that he negotiated last January tempering the disappointment though.

Apologist post.

I hope you think the same about benefit thieves because that is the comparison.

 

[PokerBlade]

Unseen work

With his skills we should put him on the board as chief negotiator.

 

[United Aren't Back.]

Urgh, Clough said 2 years with an option of a third year. Looks like either Clough is either a liar or Wallace is an arse.

http://www.s24su.com/forum/index.php?threads/james-wallace.44351/page-7#post-950784

I can just feel Adkins laughing at us with his annoying Roy Chubby Brown lookalike grin, from his mansion wherever that is, leaving us bloody Hammond!

Probably is , the overrated, Orange skinned Scouse prick.

 

[United Aren't Back.]

If Hammond really didn't want to be here, he'd not have taken his option up. Unbelievable we're stuck with him, and he knows the wages we've offered are far better than anything else he'll get from the Dog and Duck or wherever he'd end up, after the season he's had with us.

He's not even Sheffield FC standard.

 

[Woodwardfan]

All I know for definite, is that this would never have happened if you were the MD..

Absolutely correct and you no doubt. For a player of that age and such restricted mobility the clause re next season was generous.

Maybe our manager would have insisted that the clause was effectively protecting the clubs interests and guaranteeing that another club could not come in and steal the player. The MD should have encouraged the manager and the player to find a middle ground. Bear in mind Hammond looked a donkey on his debut and did nothing by January to impress anybody other than WHF on this site for example.

I wouldn't have allowed the Coutts signing either, no way could he have passed a routine fitness examination.

What? The manager would have submitted his resignation? Well, sometimes you have to stand up and be counted and sometimes expect the sack. I did that once, regardless of salary consequences but there we go, it was when I did have all my marbles Integrity and conscience matter though. Fantasy Football, good fun

 

[dublin 10 blade]

A big well done Tuffty , about time someone at this club showed the fucking players who's boss .
Buck up or fuckoff .
We've been crying out for a manager like this since Sir Dave , play for the shirt , the fans , and our club .
Then you will see the fans getting behind the team , give 100% , that's what you'll get back ,
Win , lose , or draw .
UTB

 

[Woodwardfan]

Apologist post.

I hope you think the same about benefit thieves because that is the comparison.

Sorry Za, I can't illustrate it any better, but "benefit thieves"??!!, silly.

 

[United Aren't Back.]

So, taking a step back and a deep breath, despite all McCabe has said about small budget, etc., is there something going on behind the scenes? Prince putting more money in? Or is Wilder going to fashion a team of free transfers and academy players? We might still be left with a lot of players on the books if no one comes in to buy the ones transfer listed.

Let's face it..demand for shit players is going to be low .

 

[Finnieston]

Wilder does know, he stuck he straight on the transfer list.. He know, his mates will have told him a million times how bad Hammond was.

Totally agree........Just trying to get my head round Hammonds position. And why has it arisen?
Some loopholes somewhere..........There,s no veneer on ere.........UTB

 

[Bladesman]

Cya Bob!

 

[Silent Blade]

Does anyone know why James Wallace still has a year on his contract, I am sure he had 2 years and an option for a third. How the hell did he get the option, did he trigger a clause with all those games played?

In another thread you thought it wasnt possible for a player to sign a pre-contract in January. It has been happening for a few years now!

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

He's hardly on the fucking breadline.. What sort of scum does that when he know he's not only unwanted by the fans, but totally hated

Scum? Really? He's optioned a contract which he's quite entitled to do to ensure he gets paid probably about 500k. The club will have to pay him off if they cant move him on and he's certainly towards the backend of his career.
Most sensible people would activate the clause while you looked for a better offer, that not greed just plain sensible logic.
If he'd played a blinder all year and gone elsewhere in guessing he'd also be greedy scun?