Clough focused on 5th.

[Kenilworth]

try prestons record

but again I say it , thats gone , its history
ithe only use our play off record is is for negative twats to use it to beat us with

so your theory is because weve lost in 4 finals we will as a club never ever ever win one
tell me why do you come

theres obviously no future in it

whats the point if we go up if we cant win a championship one eh , lets not bother eh

or perhaps just perhaps we might buck a trend

tell me how many times in football are records broken , runs ended teams like bournemouth reaching new heights , obviously not in some blades fans worlds

You compared us to Swansea not me and my proof of that comparison being completely askew was unequivocal

So, let's look at Preston's record. As failure goes theirs is only greater than ours by the virtue of not getting through any of their 9 campaigns but, as you correctly point out, the Blades hold the record for the number of failures in finals. If we fail to navigate the play off campaign this year and PNE get that last automatic promotion slot then we will not only have equalled their record of participations to failures but we will have the worst record of all owing to the number of our dismal failures in finals -

Does this dismal record mean that we are likely to fail this time around? Well if it's a probabilistic argument then you would say, 'no'
But I am not basing my concern over past history - I am basing it on recent history, such as; form, injuries to key players, unsettled sides, lack of goals, lack of clean sheets, performances, players seemingly lacking sufficient motivation, the list could go on.

"Perhaps we might just buck a trend"
So your premise is that after all the slating of what has gone on before, which has fashioned people's moods and low levels of optimism, you are trusting to "luck" that we will prevail on this occasion.
Brilliant!

 

[AnotherBlade]

This playoff campaign already has an increasingly similar feeling as to when we lost out to Yeovil.

I'm not sure it does. There seems to be quite an uptake on ticket sales for this one, priced right, and a hope that has admittedly manifested from demonstration of what we have been capable of in cup competitions and high profile games with things at stake (ala Barnsley), despite being poor of late. This leads to what for me seems like a surprising level of optimism, and to put it in to context I don't think I'll even be able to get to Wembley this year if we go there, but at the end of the day, the season ticket is renewed and Championship football would be a nice touch!

 

[Darren]

Incidentally, if we win on Sun, Chesterfield will be in the play offs with only 68 points. Has anyone ever got in the play offs with a lower total?

One for Revolution

 

[JJ Sefton]

I MIGHT GET ON TO THE CLUB SHOP

SEE IF WE CANT START TO SELL SOME BELIEF

It'd fall apart after two washes.

 

[blade too long]

You compared us to Swansea not me and my proof of that comparison being completely askew was unequivocal

So, let's look at Preston's record. As failure goes theirs is only greater than ours by the virtue of not getting through any of their 9 campaigns but, as you correctly point out, the Blades hold the record for the number of failures in finals. If we fail to navigate the play off campaign this year and PNE get that last automatic promotion slot then we will not only have equalled their record of participations to failures but we will have the worst record of all owing to the number of our dismal failures in finals -

Does this dismal record mean that we are likely to fail this time around? Well if it's a probabilistic argument then you would say, 'no'
But I am not basing my concern over past history - I am basing it on recent history, such as; form, injuries to key players, unsettled sides, lack of goals, lack of clean sheets, performances, players seemingly lacking sufficient motivation, the list could go on.

"Perhaps we might just buck a trend"
So your premise is that after all the slating of what has gone on before, which has fashioned people's moods and low levels of optimism, you are trusting to "luck" that we will prevail on this occasion.
Brilliant!

I only used swansea to compare the fact they saw no light at the end of a tunnel
they had had far far longer suffering in the shadows
we have been in league one a paltry 4 seasons
some clubs far longer , Millwall spent 8 million a season in the championship , theyve fallen in it

their fans will be in mourning as will wigans , cup winners 3 years ago

we are not the only club that have bad days , thing is to learn not to dwell on them

if we were so bad wed never have made previous play offs
wednesday fans mock us for not winning any
them cunts cant even make a championship play off after 15 years falling out of the prem , they are far bigger bottlers than us

better to lose in a play than never get near one surely
wednesday have in 3 years got 58 points 53 points and now 59 points , and their fans are orgasming they are progressing ,,, 1 fucking point better than 3 years ago

we dwell on the negative too much

 

[super_pig]

Not sure I would be in that much of a celebratory mood if we managed to win the final, because:
Haven't decided if I can stomach yet another trip to Wembley just to feel, once again, that the post match ruby was the absolute highlight of my day

you kidding?? i reckon London will be like Rio carnival if we win. .when we win.. ahem

 

[blade too long]

thing is if we win , sorry when we win
what are owls fans arguments going to consist of

your in league one ,,,, gone
never scored or won at wembley ,,, gone
the gap is closed

theres lots of positives to look forward too mainly shutting up them twats

 

[JJ Sefton]

theres 92 clubs
they all have fans
none as negative as ours

Bollocks.

 

[Kenilworth]

raul posted a linky in the shout box re the stats on the effects of form going into the play offs

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/apr/29/does-league-form-matter-in-play-offs

It all points to form in the last 12 games or the last 6 games not having that much significance as to who gets to and to who wins the final
Well isn't that a huge fucking relief for us, eh?

However, ( and here's where it pisses on yer chips) the article also goes on to say that the largest gap in points total between the team that finished third and the eventual winners was 12.
Now, look at the current table and you will see that we are currently standing 18 points behind third placed MKD - a position that could stretch to 21 by Sunday afternoon




Holy Fuck!


Pray to the BTL demi god
Pray to the BTL demi god
Everybody, kneel and pray to the BTL demi god for forgiveness and deliverance

 

[Bladebri]

I have played the lottery for years, I don't look back every week and think why bother I'm not going to win, no I put it on with the belief I will win, so let's not dwell on previous playoffs and let's believe we can win this one.

 

[Bladesince59]

We won't play Chesterfield over two legs.

Or any legs

 

[Eskimo]

This might be partly an age thing, but I've decided not to worry about who we play. I wasn't even going to go on Sunday, but now I am, nor on Thursday, but now I am.

I'm going to accept whatever happens and remember it's only two (or possibly three) games of football and in the grand scheme of things, such as a Nepalese earthquake, unimportant.

No punchline, I mean it

I think this is exactly the attitude to take. If you have seen out team much this season, which most of us have, you have to agree that in the next three or maybe four games we can expect any performance from Southampton at home to Yeovil away.

So there is no point worrying anymore about footballing Gods, new signings, Clough, Kennedy's knee, MKDs pie munchers, what Wednesdayites think........ just get to the matches, be positive and see what happens. Might be Rio in London, might not.

 

[Silent Blade]

Incidentally, if we win on Sun, Chesterfield will be in the play offs with only 68 points. Has anyone ever got in the play offs with a lower total?

One for Revolution

More than once in this forum (last February, I think), I predicted that the team finishing 6th wont get as many as 70 points. Let's see if I am right after this Sunday's match

 

[LSF]

My fourth biggest fear would be to make an arse of myself

That's habitual now

 

[davidpinder]

We won't play Chesterfield over two legs.

The players will Sunday

 

[davidpinder]

I would fancy MK Dons at Wembley teams do feed off the fans look at Hull last year, we will take close to 30,000 they wouldn't manage half that. We need 5th.

 

[Trigger Blade]

More than once in this forum (last February, I think), I predicted that the team finishing 6th wont get as many as 70 points. Let's see if I am right after this Sunday's match

You did Silent (although nobody likes a clever dick ). If you're right, it would be worth finding the thread, because there were a few who disagreed with you. Not me obviously

Even if Chessie win, 71 for sixth is pretty low, from memory.

 

[Dalelane01]

In this campaign swindon have lost as many games as us in the league 13 games. chesterfield have lost 15. mk dons 9. games preston 6 games.so on that basis what have we got to worry about. our main concern is lets hope preston go up in autos. all the others have had much as the same sort of season as us just above average

 

[sheffielder]

well imagine what we can achieve if we go for it then

Can you give Nigel a ring and give him this key bit of information.

 

[Grecian2000]

theres 92 clubs
they all have fans
none as negative as ours

Thing is BTL, you might put some very pertinent stuff in your posts BUT absolute shit like that means no-one sees it because it's been overshadowed by the nonsense.

Anyway, back on topic (and obviously ignoring the other 88 teams who aren't at all relevant to this thread) I'm not sure what to think. I have a real feeling that if Preston "blow it" on Sunday than they would be the best team to face the following Thursday. However, I have no such doubts over MKD as they've been playing catch up for months and it won't seem so bad to them.
As we can't do anything about it then I'm more than happy to let events take there course and turn up next Thursday not really caring who it is we face.

 

[Kenilworth]

You did Silent (although nobody likes a clever dick ). If you're right, it would be worth finding the thread, because there were a few who disagreed with you. Not me obviously

Even if Chessie win, 71 for sixth is pretty low, from memory.

Erm, Trig - if Chessie win on Sunday the 6th place team will STILL have 70 points

 

[blade too long]

Id point out we got 90 points and were miles ahead 3 years ago

but all the 46 games beforehand mean absolute diddly squat once the play offs start

 

[bladeinspaceandtime]

Shows how gullible people are

No the gullible ones are the people spouting "nah then, we gonna win 'cos Cluff's done alreight in t'cups", this about a bloke seemingly incapable of motivating his players to turn up against Yeovil recently or to get a result against the footballing powerhouse that is Fleetwood Town.

 

[blade too long]

Thing is BTL, you might put some very pertinent stuff in your posts BUT absolute shit like that means no-one sees it because it's been overshadowed by the nonsense.

Anyway, back on topic (and obviously ignoring the other 88 teams who aren't at all relevant to this thread) I'm not sure what to think. I have a real feeling that if Preston "blow it" on Sunday than they would be the best team to face the following Thursday. However, I have no such doubts over MKD as they've been playing catch up for months and it won't seem so bad to them.
As we can't do anything about it then I'm more than happy to let events take there course and turn up next Thursday not really caring who it is we face.

I mean it , throughout the last 4 years , some , not all have become morose in their outlook
of 1800 regulars theres some still moaning ABOUT CHENGDU BLADES AND THE HOTEL

Yeah mistakes were made , speculations made that fucked up


but lets fucking move on , we arent going to be playing palace or burnley or wolves
its another day completely different circumstances players manager

lets go into like we want to win it , lets say we have a chance , because lets not be misled , we have as much chance as swindon or mk dons or chesterfield
they will get squeaky bums about it too

 

[blade too long]

No the gullible ones are the people spouting "nah then, we gonna win 'cos Cluff's done alreight in t'cups", this about a bloke seemingly incapable of motivating his players to turn up against Yeovil recently or to get a result against the footballing powerhouse that is Fleetwood Town.

and when we won 3-1 at bristol that was sheer luck then
see yeovil followed up beating us by going to swindon and winning , funny that swindon being that shit like us

 

[Silent Blade]

You did Silent (although nobody likes a clever dick ). If you're right, it would be worth finding the thread, because there were a few who disagreed with you. Not me obviously

Even if Chessie win, 71 for sixth is pretty low, from memory.

Will look for it if we dont lose to Chesterfield this Sunday

 

[Kenilworth]

and when we won 3-1 at bristol that was sheer luck then
see yeovil followed up beating us by going to swindon and winning , funny that swindon being that shit like us

They are

 

[Grecian2000]

I mean it , throughout the last 4 years , some , not all have become morose in their outlook
of 1800 regulars theres some still moaning ABOUT CHENGDU BLADES AND THE HOTEL

Yeah mistakes were made , speculations made that fucked up


but lets fucking move on , we arent going to be playing palace or burnley or wolves
its another day completely different circumstances players manager

lets go into like we want to win it , lets say we have a chance , because lets not be misled , we have as much chance as swindon or mk dons or chesterfield
they will get squeaky bums about it too

I know you mean it, never questioned that for a minute. Doesn't make it true though.

I've said, many many times on here, we are no different from any other set of fans. As loud as the Our Fans Are Cunts brigade shout, they are as 100% wrong as they always have been.

I'll tell the tales again. In the early 80's I was fortunate enough to have a job that dealt with many football clubs. By far the best perk from this was getting freebies from various clubs for games where we played at their ground. The only downside to this was that their "comps" were always in the main stand and, therefore, sat with the home supporters.
No matter where it was, the negative/positive attitude of the supporters was based entirely on how the game went. We won 3-0 at Portsmouth (widely regarded as being top notch supporters in the media) who had a 100% home record at the end of November (that's about 10 wins on the trot) and the natives were going fucking mental just because we hammered them. We pissed Oldham 5-1 and same again. Going ape shit at their players (especially a big ginner at CB who seemed intent on being the one player not playing the offside trap).
However, on visiting Leeds Road (best hospitality of anyone who gave the freebies out) we were beaten 2-1 (Dale Tempest scored much to the locals amusement, I think Bolton scored for us so perhaps the memory is going!) and everyone was on cloud 9. What a surprise. NOT!

I reckon football supporters are 10/80/10 at ALL clubs. 10% who can see no wrong, 10% who can see no right and the VAST MAJORITY who swing with the performances and attitude of players/manager/board.

To say any club (and you named us of course) has the most negative fans is pure fantasy and bears no relation to the truth.

 

[djbaldken]

In your quest to reference every other football club in the known universe to illustrate some point or other (as an aside - things that happened to us are irrelevent but things that happen to other clubs are??) I'm rather surprised you haven't played your Tranmere Rovers card yet.

On topic, I've never felt less inspired and motivated going into a play off campaign and this is not based upon historical evidence but upon what my eyes have told me. 50/50 about gong Sunday, wont be at play off game and an afternoon in Leeds watching it on telly is at the moment more appealing than another trip to NW London. If we are to go up, we're going to have to be bloody lucky and do you know what, there's no-one deserves a piece of that more than us.

I think I'm going to follow the lead of our Man in Spain. The less I see, the less depressed I'll be and I can just hope.

If you mean me Raul I will be in the Club Lavante Hotel Benidorm. But again dont waste your money coming to Spain. We wont get to Wembley. We wont pass go. We wont collect £100.

 

[blade too long]

The re has been cart loads of fuck ups in our past weve had more than our fair share of catastrophes , I was at the Altrincham replay
I remember in div 4 losing at Stockport, I even had my brother die in front of me at Burnley and no one can match that for being a miserable outcome, but we mustnt dwell on the shit days

We arent the worst team in history far from it, we have never really won owt big , but weve had good days

And there just might be one coming up

If we just let it run its course without destroying the dream, we have a flower trying to bloom and some of our fans want to put a burning tyre on it