Chris Wilder new contract

[KOPPO]

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[SUFCinks]

Why would he be touted by other clubs?

The teams that would be interested are Championship teams. None of them could ever prize him away from us.

Bottom 5 or so Premier League teams would potentially be interested. But with the position Blades are in why would he move?

Is he going to get a top 15 Premier League job? Highly unlikely.

It’s the same for Blades as a club. We have found our current level and hopefully we can move slightly up in the football pyramid but will take many years. Same for Wilder.

No bottom 5 prem teams would wan’t Wilder. The old Wilder who had us playing exciting football and smashing L1, championship & prem then yes, maybe.

The latest version that failed at Boro, Watford and has us playing basic football (but to his credit is getting good results), I highly doubt they’ve thought about him.

 

[Zipwire]

My concern for this is what it means for potential much needed changes and improvements to the club's player scouting and recruitment processes. Those are much more important than whoever is coaching the first team, and need a great degree of separation from each other. I can't see a situation where Wilder signs on to 2028 and also agrees to be much more hands off recruitment going forward. I hope I'm wrong but I doubt it

We changed the clubs recruitment and scouting processes last summer, and you are correct, we need to have much needed changes to it unless we are happy with it producing signings like Michael Cooper and Harrison Burrows.

 

[N20 Blade]

No bottom 5 prem teams would wan’t Wilder. The old Wilder who had us playing exciting football and smashing L1, championship & prem then yes, maybe.

The latest version that failed at Boro, Watford and has us playing basic football (but to his credit is getting good results), I highly doubt they’ve thought about him.

I think the fact that Southgate is still out of work speaks volumes regarding the demands and expectations of PL clubs / owners.

Potter and McKenna are the only English managers, and for different reasons, their stock is high. But no way would McKenna be appointed by another PL club. For Potter, this is a big career moment, if he fails he will drop a league.

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

I think the fact that Southgate is still out of work speaks volumes regarding the demands and expectations of PL clubs / owners.

Potter and McKenna are the only English managers, and for different reasons, their stock is high. But no way would McKenna be appointed by another PL club. For Potter, this is a big career moment, if he fails he will drop a league.

I think McKenna will be the next Man Utd manager.

 

[Bladezz]

No bottom 5 prem teams would wan’t Wilder. The old Wilder who had us playing exciting football and smashing L1, championship & prem then yes, maybe.

The latest version that failed at Boro, Watford and has us playing basic football (but to his credit is getting good results), I highly doubt they’ve thought about him.

Incredibly negative way of looking at things. But each to their own.

 

[Laney Blade]

As explained earlier his current deal ran out in the summer so it's actually 3 years.

He signed the new deal to run from January 2025 to end June 2028. Which is 3.5 years. The new owners rate him so what's the problem. Its their club , we are just customers.

 

[Cheesebored]

He signed the new deal to run from January 2025 to end June 2028. Which is 3.5 years. The new owners rate him so what's the problem. Its their club , we are just customers.

There's no problem. As has been explained countless times already his current deal (whether superceded or not) runs out in June 2025. Do the maths.

 

[GymClassHero]

Sorry GCH, it was an open net I couldn’t resist

Oh aye, backpedalling are ya

 

[N20 Blade]

I think McKenna will be the next Man Utd manager.

I work with a Man United fan (season ticket holder) and he wanted McKenna last summer. Really, when Ferguson left they needed to plan long term again but failed. Probably need to do so again. So yes it's possible but such a huge task.

 

[Houston_Blade]

You want Sheffield United to be a top 6-8 Club.

That will take 10+ years. We aren’t anywhere near the same size as Villa or Nottingham Forest. Your delusional.

If you think giving a manager a 2 and half year deal ends our chances of being a top 8 premier league club then your going to be very disappointed.

What are your aspirations for the club in 10 years time with Wilder in charge for that long?

 

[Blade56]

You want Sheffield United to be a top 6-8 Club.

That will take 10+ years. We aren’t anywhere near the same size as Villa or Nottingham Forest. Your delusional.

If you think giving a manager a 2 and half year deal ends our chances of being a top 8 premier league club then your going to be very disappointed.

Yes

Why?

3.5yrs and why do you bother supporting a club you don’t think capable of improving? That’s why I think Wilder long term is the wrong manager. You’re obviously happy with same old same old. I’m more progressive and aspirational that’s all, I can dream.

 

[Numpty's Dusty Ruts.]

We couldn’t have rushed any less into a new contract!? The man had 5 months left of his contract. Players are signing for the club to play for him. He brings stability to our club.

I am a fan that’s correct.

I suspect players are signing to play for United, not Chris Wilder.

 

[Bladezz]

What are your aspirations for the club in 10 years time with Wilder in charge for that long?

I wouldn’t expect Wilder to be our manager in 10 year. Managers don’t last that long he will either do well and move onto a bigger club or will fail and get sacked.

Hence the reason why he hasn’t got a 10 year deal.

 

[Bladezz]

Yes

Why?

3.5yrs and why do you bother supporting a club you don’t think capable of improving? That’s why I think Wilder long term is the wrong manager. You’re obviously happy with same old same old. I’m more progressive and aspirational that’s all, I can dream.

I agree with you, you can dream.

I for one hope your right and your dreams come true. My dream is Megan Fox so lets hope I bump into her soon.

 

[Bladezz]

I suspect players are signing to play for United, not Chris Wilder.

Most players specifically mention Wilder. But would guess it’s both.

You don’t wanna move to a club for 4 years and then you aren’t sure manager gonna stick around. Look at Wednesday. Everyone knows Rohl is dying to leave he’s not building a project.

 

[YES Blade]

Most players specifically mention Wilder. But would guess it’s both.

You don’t wanna move to a club for 4 years and then you aren’t sure manager gonna stick around. Look at Wednesday. Everyone knows Rohl is dying to leave he’s not building a project.

Unless the player is signing for maybe Man City or Liverpool there is a very high chance they will have more than one manager during a 4 year stint at their club.

I’m sure it’s a factor when first signing as the player will want to know if they are likely to play much and positions etc. but beyond that, I honestly don’t think the manager’s contract is a factor.

 

[Houston_Blade]

I wouldn’t expect Wilder to be our manager in 10 year. Managers don’t last that long he will either do well and move onto a bigger club or will fail and get sacked.

Hence the reason why he hasn’t got a 10 year deal.

I would have given them a 10 year deal.

Think it’s a little light.

You mentioned you’d have given them a 10 year deal though, I just wondered what that would achieve?

 

[Tom Bott]

CW will be good for another £4m pay off when/if it goes tits up, I'd have given him an extra year to be reviewed annually.

How much did Slav get paid when he left, just for reference.

 

[Bladezz]

Unless the player is signing for maybe Man City or Liverpool there is a very high chance they will have more than one manager during a 4 year stint at their club.

I’m sure it’s a factor when first signing as the player will want to know if they are likely to play much and positions etc. but beyond that, I honestly don’t think the manager’s contract is a factor.

That’s why usually a lot of clubs faulter. Different ideas, different formations etc. Look at us after Wilder first stint. Jok wanted to change formation impossible brought in odd player but couldn’t get it to work. Hecky come back copied Wilder and we looked much better.

You want to play for stable clubs with stable managers. Look at Stoke for example it’s just terribly run you wouldn’t choose them etc.

 

[Tom Bott]

I'm yet to be convinced Wilder has a plan B or can change tactics mid game other than throwing every striker on and hoping one of them scores.

I prefer Burnleys plan B throw on every defender and hope you get a 0-0.

 

[Bladezz]

You mentioned you’d have given them a 10 year deal though, I just wondered what that would achieve?

Sorry I thought it would be clear it was sarcastic. So this is my mistake. I’m happy with a 2 and half year deal I think he has earnt the deal and he will be judged over the next 2 and half years to whether we extend it or move in another direction.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Sorry I thought it would be clear it was sarcastic. So this is my mistake. I’m happy with a 2 and half year deal I think he has earnt the deal and he will be judged over the next 2 and half years to whether we extend it or move in another direction.

I guessed it was sarcasm. Hopefully he doesn’t walk/get pushed next season if we’re not in the PL or in the PL and getting pummelled every week.

I like the continuity and last time he was here we restructured the club from the youngest age groups upwards to match his style and culture, then he walked off/got sacked and we’d done it all for nothing.

 

[Bladezz]

I guessed it was sarcasm. Hopefully he doesn’t walk/get pushed next season if we’re not in the PL or in the PL and getting pummelled every week.

I like the continuity and last time he was here we restructured the club from the youngest age groups upwards to match his style and culture, then he walked off/got sacked and we’d done it all for nothing.

Before he left he introduced Ndiaye into the first team and signed players like Peck for £100k from Arsenal. Etc

Hecky come in and followed the same path bringing on players like Arblaster etc. The Sheffield United model was set in 2016 and has continued getting better.

Yes if Wilder could get us to say 16th in PL for 2 seasons then we would have to look at it again and decide is this direction the way to improve or do we sit and stay as we are. Finances dictate that etc.

 

[YES Blade]

That’s why usually a lot of clubs faulter. Different ideas, different formations etc. Look at us after Wilder first stint. Jok wanted to change formation impossible brought in odd player but couldn’t get it to work. Hecky come back copied Wilder and we looked much better.

You want to play for stable clubs with stable managers. Look at Stoke for example it’s just terribly run you wouldn’t choose them etc.

That’s the point, very few clubs have a stable manager. Look at the list…

List of current Premier League and English Football League managers - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

There are only 5 managers that have been at their club for longer than 4 years. So if a player is expecting to have only 1 manager for the entirety of a 4 year contract, then chances are they’ll end up disappointed.

So for that reason, I honestly don’t see a manager’s contract situation being a consideration when signing for a new club.

 

[ancientblade]

can understand people rating mckenna a very good manager after what hes achieved at ipswich but i can see him going same way as rob edwards at luton who was also classed as a great young progressive manager and look what happened to him

 

[Houston_Blade]

Before he left he introduced Ndiaye into the first team and signed players like Peck for £100k from Arsenal. Etc

Hecky come in and followed the same path bringing on players like Arblaster etc. The Sheffield United model was set in 2016 and has continued getting better.

Yes if Wilder could get us to say 16th in PL for 2 seasons then we would have to look at it again and decide is this direction the way to improve or do we sit and stay as we are. Finances dictate that etc.

Hecky was brought in because we tried ripping the ‘Wilder model’ up with Slav and it went a bit tits up. We’re now back to where we were before, my argument is that this won’t get us to the next level as a club.

Happy to be proved wrong but we’d need lots of investment and the same ‘bottled lightning’ as last time to be anything other than a top Championship/PL relegation candidate.

 

[Numpty's Dusty Ruts.]

Most players specifically mention Wilder. But would guess it’s both.

You don’t wanna move to a club for 4 years and then you aren’t sure manager gonna stick around. Look at Wednesday. Everyone knows Rohl is dying to leave he’s not building a project.

No-one can be sure any manager is going to stick around. It's actually beyond the manager's control, and as we all know, football contracts are pretty elastic.
If I was a professional footballer (yes, I'm laughing too!!), I'd be after the quickest way to make the largest amount of money, especially as for most its a short-term and relatively insecure career. I'd want to play for a relatively successful club (at whatever level), but I wouldn't look too closely at who the manager was!

 

[Sean Thornton]

A). United are a big club and l’m relishing the thought of playing at Bramall Lane. The manager has a great reputation and really sold the club to me.

Or

B). United are a big club and l’m relishing the thought of playing at Bramall Lane. The club really didn’t need selling to me. The moneys great, much more than before so l can put up with the manager. I mean, my agent says it’s not a job with a long shelf life is it?



Which is the more likely to be heard at the initial press conference?

 

[bornablade]

You want Sheffield United to be a top 6-8 Club.

That will take 10+ years. We aren’t anywhere near the same size as Villa or Nottingham Forest. Your delusional.

If you think giving a manager a 2 and half year deal ends our chances of being a top 8 premier league club then your going to be very disappointed.

OK let's ignore Villa & Forest (although that one's dubious). How about Bournemouth and Brentford?