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I take it you never go for a slash at ht then? The smoke from incenduries lasts for about 10 seconds then dissipates into the atmosphere. Unless it's you holding it the intense heat you complain about won't be an issue. We just like to moan about stuff don't we really.
The smoke bombs are not incendiary flares.
That’s precisely the point being made. People don’t hold on to them, they lob them into the crowd!
Fair comment, I was referring to the idiots who seem to think it’s ok to lob pyros about. Clearly, if the reports on here are correct, it’s exactly the incendiary types that are being used.
A point I've repeatedly condemned.
Well your last post was suggesting that incendiaries are a zero risk due to the speed at which the smoke dissipates. Actually something I take issue with anyway. I’ve used them at sea and the whole point is that they create a thick and lasting trail. As for the heat issue, re- read what you wrote……..
I've re read it. What's the issue? You're not holding it so the heat issue wouldn't be a problem for you. A couple went off at Coventry yesterday after we scored. The smoke had cleared by the time the players had celebrated. Bit of fun that appears to have hurt no one. Like I said earlier, we love a good moan about nothing don't we. FWIW I believe the ones used at football are the same ones used for photo shoots, birthday parties, etc and not the sea rescue version.
People have implied / said that. I agree in a sensible world such things shouldn't be flung. However two things I can add are:
There was, but I couldn’t see where. Either that or someone had a massive ghetto blaster with loads of drum loops on it.
As someone who sings and shouts, I would like to say that I have felt threatened by the prospect of something burning being used irresponsibly (by being thrown, as ‘bangers’ used to be in the ‘good old days’); I have never felt threatened by a grumpy git, sitting and looking for things to be grumpy about.
Thanks for the backing HBT, nice to have someone cover my back.
Yes, but we keep going back to 'burning' and 'flares' . I would be 100% in agreement if these things were either, but they aren't.
There must be something in the science that I have missed. Apologies if I have failed to read a relevant post. But when I did science at school, many years ago, we were taught that smoke was produced by combustion (another word for burning). When these things are thrown around in football grounds, do they come with a note attached saying ‘Do not worry, this smoke is not produced by fire’? To me, they don’t look like something that belongs in a crowded space.
They shouldn't be thrown around, no. At the same time they are being described as incendiary devices and flares. And you saying you are threatened by them.
Hey do you mind!Kidney punch joke
Can they put it in the Bramall Lane stand next to the singing section?
I don’t know whether I am threatened by them, but I don’t feel comfortable with smoking objects being thrown around. What exactly is producing smoke in them? In a crowded environment with young kids and old gits (me), it seems a totally unnecessary and inappropriate accessory.
Yes, shouldn't be throwing them. Also doesn't warrant lots of the hyperbole and hysteria on some threads.
Oh FFS, again....
Agreed. Something joyous. Every time. But we ain't got that. We've got a snarling, finger pointing, copying each others songs, you're a Pig, no you are, your grounds a shit hole, come outside & say that, angry, vein busting, flare at Milton Keynes worshipping, but not in my back yard, say that again to my face .... atmosphere.
That might be some peoples preferred way of behaving at a match but it isn’t and has never been mine. The majority of fans want to enjoy the game and the whole match day experience even if, god forbid, that involves a bit of friendly banter in a pub with the opposition fans. It certainly doesn’t involve spending it engaged in a puerile game of ‘I’m harder than you and I’ll fuck up the atmosphere for everyone else if I want to”. There really should be a an opportunity for the wannabe hard boys to just piss off and play amongst themselves in a shed because the actual match is a meaningless sideshow.Agreed. Something joyous. Every time. But we ain't got that. We've got a snarling, finger pointing, copying each others songs, you're a Pig, no you are, your grounds a shit hole, come outside & say that, angry, vein busting, flare at Milton Keynes worshipping, but not in my back yard, say that again to my face .... atmosphere.
Put that in your cringepipe
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