Big Sam could he do a job for us?

[Wapping Blade]

In a word, no.

 

[snootyfenooty]

It's weird how some of our fans are salivating at the prospect of Allardyce taking over from Warnock isn't it?

 

[ChipButtyBlade]

Rolling the Grass with his fat gut.

 

[Lmaobob]

Should the worse happen and Wilder leaves I think hes exactly what we need

pig

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

It's weird how some of our fans are salivating at the prospect of Allardyce taking over from Warnock isn't it?

To be honest, if we were bottom at xmas and managerless, how many on here would all of a sudden want him in charge for 6 months?

 

[snootyfenooty]

To be honest, if we were bottom at xmas and managerless, how many on here would all of a sudden want him in charge for 6 months?

That may or may not be the case. It's the sudden hoped for and expectation of misfortune coming Cardiff City's way I was referring to.

 

[Damski]

pig

Nah, someone in the London Blades Facebook did an almost identical post and he is very much a real person and a Blade.

 

[PokerBlade]

I've become accustomed to a certain way of life and Allardyce will never fit into it.

I watched both legs of the play-offs with Pulis' 'Boro. Dear God, let us never go back there. Some of the talent in that squad, going behind early in the first leg, and you're waiting and waiting for a Pulis side to figure out how to put some attacking pressure together. And it never came. Reminded me so much of our time with the likes of Blackwell, Clough, and Adkins. I can't go back there.

 

[grafikhaus]

Spot on.
The Everton fans that I know are so happy that he's gone!!. They hated his style of football as it was so boring to watch!. UTB

How wrong you are!

Sam Allardyce claims majority of Everton supporters didn't want him sacked: 'Not everybody has the same opinion as the few'

• Everton sacked former England manager Sam Allardyce on Wednesday
• Allardyce was expecting the sack before a meeting with owner Farhad Moshiri
• The former England manager claims opinion of minority cost him his position

Sam Allardyce has claimed the majority of Everton supporters did not want him sacked and that he lost his job due to a media campaign.

The 63-year-old was axed by Everton on Wednesday and is expected to be replaced by Marco Silva, possibly next week.

Former England boss Allardyce left with more than £5million in compensation, having served Everton for only 162 days. Link (The 'Comments' are worth a read...)

Because of the amounts of money involved, it's all about staying in the Premier League and a lot less about how you do it, sadly.

Things might be changing, though:

Safety first no longer enough – fans demand to be entertained
Call it the Guardiola effect. Suddenly, for all the money, clubs and fans want more. What's wrong with that? Sam Allardyce moved Everton from 13th to eighth playing a brand of football that was functional.

He did what he was employed to do, which was remove the threat of relegation — but Everton should never have been in danger of relegation. They are bigger than that. They have the money to do better.

Not in the table, necessarily, but certainly on the field. They have the wealth to entertain. Everybody does, these days.

Everton aren't up to winning the league, as yet — they haven't seriously challenged in the modern era — but watching them should at least be fun. That is what the television deal should provide. Enjoyment. Escape.

It is now possible to buy the best players, to develop the finest academies, to play better football. Someone has to go down, of course. So there will always be tension, fear, a price to pay for getting it wrong.

Finishing eighth playing boring football is no longer seen as an achievement for Everton

But with the riches at Premier League clubs' disposal, there really is no excuse for dour football. Bournemouth don't play like that, with far greater limitations than Allardyce had.

It was a little different for David Moyes at West Ham, but not much. The relationship between the board and the fans has grown so fractious that their priority this summer is to prevent further uprising, to stop the first defeat of next season poisoning an entire campaign.

Moyes kept West Ham up but was viewed as conservative.

That may be unfair — West Ham were in more perilous circumstances than Everton, certainly after the 4-0 defeat when the teams met in November — and he organised a squad who had become lazy and complacent.

Yet, once secure, Moyes became the fallback option if no one better, or more exciting, came along this summer: Rafael Benitez, or a bloke from Ukraine in a Zorro mask. Moyes found that insulting and jumped as much as was pushed.

'I came to the club with the team struggling and we finished eighth in the table,' said Allardyce. 'I'm more than happy with what myself, my staff and the players have achieved from when I came in.'

But that's the point. With the money now at Everton's disposal, finishing eighth playing boring football is no longer seen as an achievement.

Pep Guardiola, and contemporaries such as Jurgen Klopp, have changed that. Even Jose Mourinho, second with Manchester United, is feeling the heat.

Supporters do not expect their clubs to play like Manchester City, but they expect extra. More football, more fun, more ambition, more excitement.

It may be that the old guard of British managers become the firemen, the ones who are called when the place is in flames and Premier League clubs look increasingly to a younger generation, who will at least have a go.

Everton's income from the Premier League alone this season was a pinch under £130million — for that, is it too much to expect to at least be entertained?
Never my favourite but - when he's not slagging The Blades and turning a blind eye to his beloved West Ham's corruption* - Samuel often talks sense. Link

*Re. the proposed takeover at Wembley, questions are being asked about repaying the £120m of public money that went towards its construction. When will West Ham be asked to repay the cost of the London Stadium, which they were gifted, the on-going alterations and the taxpayer being expected to pick up the bill for policing and stewards? Or am I being naive?

 

[Redflame]

Big mistake if that came about total disaster in fact UTB

 

[The Crab]

How wrong you are!

Sam Allardyce claims majority of Everton supporters didn't want him sacked: 'Not everybody has the same opinion as the few'

• Everton sacked former England manager Sam Allardyce on Wednesday
• Allardyce was expecting the sack before a meeting with owner Farhad Moshiri
• The former England manager claims opinion of minority cost him his position

Sam Allardyce has claimed the majority of Everton supporters did not want him sacked and that he lost his job due to a media campaign.

The 63-year-old was axed by Everton on Wednesday and is expected to be replaced by Marco Silva, possibly next week.

Former England boss Allardyce left with more than £5million in compensation, having served Everton for only 162 days. Link (The 'Comments' are worth a read...)



Things might be changing, though:

Safety first no longer enough – fans demand to be entertained
Call it the Guardiola effect. Suddenly, for all the money, clubs and fans want more. What's wrong with that? Sam Allardyce moved Everton from 13th to eighth playing a brand of football that was functional.

He did what he was employed to do, which was remove the threat of relegation — but Everton should never have been in danger of relegation. They are bigger than that. They have the money to do better.

Not in the table, necessarily, but certainly on the field. They have the wealth to entertain. Everybody does, these days.

Everton aren't up to winning the league, as yet — they haven't seriously challenged in the modern era — but watching them should at least be fun. That is what the television deal should provide. Enjoyment. Escape.

It is now possible to buy the best players, to develop the finest academies, to play better football. Someone has to go down, of course. So there will always be tension, fear, a price to pay for getting it wrong.

Finishing eighth playing boring football is no longer seen as an achievement for Everton

But with the riches at Premier League clubs' disposal, there really is no excuse for dour football. Bournemouth don't play like that, with far greater limitations than Allardyce had.

It was a little different for David Moyes at West Ham, but not much. The relationship between the board and the fans has grown so fractious that their priority this summer is to prevent further uprising, to stop the first defeat of next season poisoning an entire campaign.

Moyes kept West Ham up but was viewed as conservative.

That may be unfair — West Ham were in more perilous circumstances than Everton, certainly after the 4-0 defeat when the teams met in November — and he organised a squad who had become lazy and complacent.

Yet, once secure, Moyes became the fallback option if no one better, or more exciting, came along this summer: Rafael Benitez, or a bloke from Ukraine in a Zorro mask. Moyes found that insulting and jumped as much as was pushed.

'I came to the club with the team struggling and we finished eighth in the table,' said Allardyce. 'I'm more than happy with what myself, my staff and the players have achieved from when I came in.'

But that's the point. With the money now at Everton's disposal, finishing eighth playing boring football is no longer seen as an achievement.

Pep Guardiola, and contemporaries such as Jurgen Klopp, have changed that. Even Jose Mourinho, second with Manchester United, is feeling the heat.

Supporters do not expect their clubs to play like Manchester City, but they expect extra. More football, more fun, more ambition, more excitement.

It may be that the old guard of British managers become the firemen, the ones who are called when the place is in flames and Premier League clubs look increasingly to a younger generation, who will at least have a go.

Everton's income from the Premier League alone this season was a pinch under £130million — for that, is it too much to expect to at least be entertained?
Never my favourite but - when he's not slagging The Blades and turning a blind eye to his beloved West Ham's corruption* - Samuel View attachment 39570 often talks sense. Link

*Re. the proposed takeover at Wembley, questions are being asked about repaying the £120m of public money that went towards its construction. When will West Ham be asked to repay the cost of the London Stadium, which they were gifted, the on-going alterations and the taxpayer being expected to pick up the bill for policing and stewards? Or am I being naive?

I've turned being wrong into an art form

As for reading Samuel's bit, sorry I just can't. Maybe it is a good piece, but it's like saying Kathy Burke gives a good blow job, that maybe the case but you still would'nt want to give it a go.

 

[Hillsboro Blade]

I think I’d rather hire ex Gambino Underboss Sammy Gravano, he’s actually more honest and trustworthy than Sam Allardyce.

 

[TJB.]

Do a job? Aye, he could do a job.

He can make the fucking tea.

I wouldn't want him near anything remotely related to the footballing side of our club.

 

[super_pig]

Should the worse happen and Wilder leaves I think hes exactly what we need

could he do a job? program seller?

 

[Smirth]

I think I’d rather have Tony Pulis.

And that’s a sentence I never thought I’d find myself typing.

 

[DronnieBlade]

Should the worse happen and Wilder leaves I think hes exactly what we need

Oh dear.

UTB

 

[BigBed]

Should the worse happen and Wilder leaves I think hes exactly what we need

I think he should go back to Wet Sham n take them down.

 

[trevorhockey]

greedy fat uck would nt want that thing anywhere near my club

 

[robbiez666]

Worst thread EVER

 

[Cerberus Blade]

Should the worse happen and Wilder leaves I think hes exactly what we need

No. He’s exactly what we don’t need. We’ve got exactly what we need. And it’s called “honesty”. First time we’ve had it since Bassett days. Appreciate it. It’s rare.

 

[Living In a Fantasy World]

No chance, I don't want us to have anything to do with that c*nt

 

[Isaw Joeshaw]

Spot on.
The Everton fans that I know are so happy that he's gone!!. They hated his style of football as it was so boring to watch!. UTB

Irrespective of the merits or otherwise of Fat Sam, my impression of Everton supporters is that they are, in the main, a bunch of ungrateful, self pitying and delusional whingers , unlike any others in the entire football league .

Oh, sorry, I'll take that back. I've just thought one other such group of supporters ........

 

[blade too long]

I want us to move forward so that would exclude footballing dinosaurs like Sam Allardisaurus