CONFIRMED Ben Brereton Diaz signs on loan

[mattbianco1]

It's totally standard in Spanish speaking countries to use both parents' surnames.

Mad that anyone would have an issue with him adding his Mum's maiden name to honour his change of circumstances. He's automatically had Chilean citizenship since birth. I think he got his Chilean passport recently when all this kicked off so maybe the change was to coincide with that.

Baldock is Greek through his grandparents - it'd be a bit odd if he took his Nan's name and both his parents being British! It's not a custom in Greece anyway, that's more relevant.

Also he does have a Greek name - FIFA/UEFA dictate that the Roman alphabet is used on shirts but if he ever played in the Greek league I'm certain he'd use it. It's Μπόλντοκ, if you want to know.

What you bringing in facts for ?
Sure I read somewhere too that Chile advised him to add Diaz to the end to make him more "accepted" by the fans - could be wrong?

We're relying on a striker who hasn't scored this season to stay up wtf

Osula or Brewster? Because Brereton-Diaz is a winger, who occasionally plays as a striker and has a decent scoring record.

BBD has played 14 times in La Liga this year, but his minutes add up to less than 3 games.

He's been kept out of the starting XI by highly rated (~£30m+) Spanish International, Alex Baena

 

[Bell4]

What you bringing in facts for ?
Sure I read somewhere too that Chile advised him to add Diaz to the end to make him more "accepted" by the fans - could be wrong?


Osula or Brewster? Because Brereton-Diaz is a winger, who occasionally plays as a striker and has a decent scoring record.

BBD has played 14 times in La Liga this year, but his minutes add up to less than 3 games.

He's been kept out of the starting XI by highly rated (~£30m+) Spanish International, Alex Baena

So why don’t we go for Alex ?

 

[brownblade]

We're relying on a striker who hasn't scored this season to stay up wtf

If we'd got him on a free last summer it'd feel different. Or for £15mill the summer before. Maybe just imagine that.

He's barely had a chance at Villarreal and their local journalist said he's struggled to settle in the new surroundings yet. We've seen him loads at Blackburn where he was hot property for at least two seasons.

I'd genuinely love to hear some better options for attackers we could get this month, that are realistic. BBD is a threat and perfectly suits our new 4231 formation.

 

[Mouth of the South]

If we'd got him on a free last summer it'd feel different. Or for £15mill the summer before. Maybe just imagine that.

He's barely had a chance at Villarreal and their local journalist said he's struggled to settle in the new surroundings yet. We've seen him loads at Blackburn where he was hot property for at least two seasons.

I'd genuinely love to hear some better options for attackers we could get this month, that are realistic. BBD is a threat and perfectly suits our new 4231 formation.

Good points BB - people on here are very quick to criticise, but slower in suggesting alternatives (apart from those that have either previously played for Utd or once had a decent game against us of course! ).
I'm looking forward to seeing how he gets on - he'll add physicality to the side, as well as his attacking qualities and I'm sure will improve the side.
All-in-all I think it's a decent signing, especially when you consider it's essentially a swap for Traore for 6 months.

 

[Revolution]

All-in-all I think it's a decent signing, especially when you consider it's essentially a swap for Traore for 6 months.

This is the key for me. It's an upgrade on what we have if it goes through.

 

[HarryHaslam]

All people on here ever seem to want us to do is look at next season. Every season!

When are we actually going to look at the here and now? We’ve got half a season left and rather than just pack our things up and write that off to plan for a future that never seems to transpire, for once I’d just like us to show a bit of fucking fight and think you know what, we’re actually going to go for it now and try our best to stay up.

100% agree. If we go down, we could get promoted back to the premier league next season and some folk would straight away be saying we need good championship players incase we go down yet again and then we can go for promotion again the following season, groundhog year... I’m sick of hearing about how good players will be in the championship and how they will take it by storm, we need premiership players sod championship players, we are never going to get anywhere until we realise we need top quality players and that lays with the recruitment team ultimately but it needs a total overhaul.

 

[The Crab]

I'm married to a Chilean and currently living in Chile. This would be very big news in our household! Its just had me running down the garden to let my football mad father in law in on the news!

He's a bit of a minor celebrity here. The fans love him and he is affectionately known as "Big Ben".

Not sure if this has been mentioned already in this thread but the story of how he came to play for Chile sounds like fiction. Ben mentioned in a Blackburn Rovers program that his mum had been born in Chile - apparently she moved to the UK when she was very young. This got picked up by the makers of Football Manager.
Subsequently fans in Chile discovered he was eligible to play for Chile via the game and started an online campaign to have him selected. He scored a couple of goals early on in his international career and the fans fell in love with him. (full story here: https://theathletic.com/2685423/202...-stoke-became-a-cultural-phenomenon-in-chile/ )

His face is all over the place on adverts and on TV. We even have a cardboard cutout of him at home that we picked up at a festival.

Regarding the "changing" of his name - in Chile - the convention is that your legal last name is that of your father and then that of your mother (when registering my son as a Chilean my wife wanted to do the same). I guess he liked it and so it became his name in the UK too. His Spanish (and his accent) are pretty awful, but no-one cares about that.

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That clears that up then.

We’re signing the cardboard cutout…..

 

[ChipDayFriday]

Feels like Wilder's preferred option is the "Big Sam's Bolton" route, probably be signing Campo next...

 

[Superblades]

Feels like Wilder's preferred option is the "Big Sam's Bolton" route, probably be signing Campo next...

If he manages to sign a player like Jay Jay Okocha or Anelka then I’m in.

 

[FTPE]

Feels like Wilder's preferred option is the "Big Sam's Bolton" route, probably be signing Campo next...

For the stick Big Sam gets he had some absolute ballers at Bolton.

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

because he's an expensive resource that they're not getting value from. A deal for us to pick up his contract would be a sensible solution, unless they think someone is going to pay a significant fee and pick up his contract as well. If he wants to come, of course there could be a smaller fee involved, but I think £5-7m unless he's had a real purple patch with us is unlikely. Good luck to them though if they can find someone to pay it as well as his terms that would also interest him.

Still seems odd, or following a business acumen akin to SUFC.
Punting a resource with 3 years left on a contract they must have budgeted for?
If we are interested in signing him in the summer that implies he has performed (reasonably) well thus increasing his ‘attractiveness’ to other potential purchasers & therefore his value / price.
If he’s shite with us why would we be remotely interested, even for nowt.
A positive spell with us may also improve his own confidence/ demonstrate to Villarreal he’s not as awful as he is currently perceived & ‘remind’ then why he was signed in the 1st place with plenty of time to ‘break into’ their 1st 11
Parallels with Traore- clearly not suited / good enough for SUFC yet we’ve (somehow) managed to get (some?) brass for him @ the end of his loan

 

[Bladesman]

 

[Bell4]

Is it a big name signing because there are 15 letters in his name ?

 

[JS Blade]

Traore going and him coming in for 6 months improves the squad.
I don't see the issue one bit!

plus our only target man in Mcburnie can't play 3 games in a row recently so he's another body with height to play in BOTH boxes not just one when it comes to corners which we have been terrible at. Surprising really as you would expect as poor as promoted teams are compared to the top teams you should be able to control a set piece.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Traore going and him coming in for 6 months improves the squad.
I don't see the issue one bit!

Because we’re spending money, which won’t get us out of relegation, on a short term fix when we have a huge rebuild ahead of us with a limited budget.
You don’t have to agree with it, but I think the reasons why others aren’t on board with this deal as presented are quite logical and easy to understand.

 

[Wards]

It's another contracted player out to make room for a loan signing. Short term gains, yes. But also adds to longer term worries.

 

[Nosworthys Throw]

19 games this season, 0 goals 0 assists, 6ft 2 and has 17% aerial dues won, im excited for this one!

 

[mattbianco1]

Feels like Wilder's preferred option is the "Big Sam's Bolton" route, probably be signing Campo next...

What by buying "Target Man", Left Wingers?

 

[Bladey_blade]

19 games this season, 0 goals 0 assists, 6ft 2 and has 17% aerial dues won, im excited for this one!

He's only played 260 minutes you melt

 

[mattbianco1]

19 games this season, 0 goals 0 assists, 6ft 2 and has 17% aerial dues won, im excited for this one!

Can prove absolutely anything with stats.


569 / 90 = 6.3 i.e. the equivalent to 6.3 full games of football.

He has played 1x 90min game in full.
Then he has 4 games where he's played over 60mins, 3 of those 4 were in the Europa League. He's their 2nd/3rd choice.

Starting regularly, he's a good player:

14 in 43 league games last season for an inconsistent Blackburn
22 in 37 the season before.

Stats hey

 

[Snowflake]

100% agree. If we go down, we could get promoted back to the premier league next season and some folk would straight away be saying we need good championship players incase we go down yet again and then we can go for promotion again the following season, groundhog year... I’m sick of hearing about how good players will be in the championship and how they will take it by storm, we need premiership players sod championship players, we are never going to get anywhere until we realise we need top quality players and that lays with the recruitment team ultimately but it needs a total overhaul.

We need good young Championship players who are progressing and then will be PL standard. Much like we did before.
With that nucleus we could add one or two real quality and experienced players.
We have to plan over at least three years and collecting PL standard players whilst in the Championship is unrealistic.

 

[Bladey_blade]

Can prove absolutely anything with stats.
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569 / 90 = 6.3 i.e. the equivalent to 6.3 full games of football.

He has played 1x 90min game in full.
Then he has 4 games where he's played over 60mins, 3 of those 4 were in the Europa League. He's their 2nd/3rd choice.

Starting regularly, he's a good player:

14 in 43 league games last season for an inconsistent Blackburn
22 in 37 the season before.

Stats hey

Yeah but aerial duels on the wing change games

 

[brownblade]

19 games this season, 0 goals 0 assists, 6ft 2 and has 17% aerial dues won, im excited for this one!

You've watched the last two seasons of the Championship though....?

 

[andy m]

It's another contracted player out to make room for a loan signing. Short term gains, yes. But also adds to longer term worries.

The player going out is a loan as well.

 

[Wards]

The player going out is a loan as well.

For now. With an option to be made a permanent deal. Signals that we don't really see him in our own plans

 

[Alex Cheeseright]

I remember Wilder wanting the best Championship players last time we got promoted, didn't get them. This time though, we will have Hamer, Archer and BBD, who were some of last year's best Championship players. Maybe not the best but up there in the conversation. Anyway, for what it's worth.

 

[andy m]

For now. With an option to be made a permanent deal. Signals that we don't really see him in our own plans

Then we have £4m to spend.

 

[ancientblade]

Traore going and him coming in for 6 months improves the squad.
I don't see the issue one bit!

plus our only target man in Mcburnie can't play 3 games in a row recently so he's another body with height to play in BOTH boxes not just one when it comes to corners which we have been terrible at. Surprising really as you would expect as poor as promoted teams are compared to the top teams you should be able to control a set piece.

exactly that js straight away it improves us in 2 deals a player going out who wasnt going to be part of our first 11 for a player who more than likely will be part of our first 11 its a no brainer

 

[AdamSufc1997]

If we'd got him on a free last summer it'd feel different. Or for £15mill the summer before. Maybe just imagine that.

He's barely had a chance at Villarreal and their local journalist said he's struggled to settle in the new surroundings yet. We've seen him loads at Blackburn where he was hot property for at least two seasons.

I'd genuinely love to hear some better options for attackers we could get this month, that are realistic. BBD is a threat and perfectly suits our new 4231 formation.

Happy to be proven wrong. Hope he turns into Leon when we signed him

 

[Nick Jansky]

Not sure who’s available but we could afford better striker as its only a loan deal and for 6 months.

So you know what we can afford? Interesting. Care to share it with us?