CONFIRMED Ben Brereton-Diaz joins on loan with option of permanent

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Wards said:
I'm not one for pissing money up a wall but surely an obligation becomes almost pocket change if we're promoted (assuming it's at the reported fee)
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Depends on what the obligation is though.

It could be that they want loads a money, but we don't think he's worth that and we might think there'll be better players available in the summer anyway.... Who knows
 

McGrath said:
Depends on what the obligation is though.

It could be that they want loads a money, but we don't think he's worth that and we might think there'll be better players available in the summer anyway.... Who knows
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Alright, alright, we've heard you. You don't know any facts, you're not pretending you do, you're being all fair and considered and it's all perfectly reasonable.

But this is the rumour mill. Where's all the wild speculation about the new owners being skint (as we all knew they would be.) Or Wilder being a stubborn sod, as we all (apparently) know he is? Come, come Paul mate, throw some toys around will ya? We need drama and hyperbole on here.

😉
 
stringjunior said:
Alright, alright, we've heard you. You don't know any facts, you're not pretending you do, you're being all fair and considered and it's all perfectly reasonable.

But this is the rumour mill. Where's all the wild speculation about the new owners being skint (as we all knew they would be.) Or Wilder being a stubborn sod, as we all (apparently) know he is? Come, come Paul mate, throw some toys around will ya? We need drama and hyperbole on here.

😉
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Glad you cleared it up.
Sick of folk thinking this is the place for reasoned debate.
 
stringjunior said:
Alright, alright, we've heard you. You don't know any facts, you're not pretending you do, you're being all fair and considered and it's all perfectly reasonable.

But this is the rumour mill. Where's all the wild speculation about the new owners being skint (as we all knew they would be.) Or Wilder being a stubborn sod, as we all (apparently) know he is? Come, come Paul mate, throw some toys around will ya? We need drama and hyperbole on here.

😉
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Alright.... it's because the new owners are skint, but they think they know soccer. They've suggested waiting until the US College soccer draft in the spring to sign a new offensive left wide goal punter. The new AI machine they've employed suggests many of the top college picks are good shootists

Any better 😜
 
Curious where the tag of being a crock/sick note is coming from for BBD. Asked Chat GPT and Grok to give me their thoughts. In summary - 'Ben Brereton Díaz doesn't appear to be extraordinarily injury-prone, but like many footballers, he has had his share of injuries, particularly with his ankles and hamstrings. These injuries suggest areas for focused prevention strategies, such as strengthening exercises for hamstrings and potentially ankle stability work. His injury record isn't alarmingly frequent, but it does warrant attention to ensure he doesn't become more injury-prone over time, especially as he ages or if there's an increase in his playing load.'

Grok:

Here's an analysis of Ben Brereton Díaz's injury proneness based on available data:

Injury History:
  • Nottingham Forest & Blackburn Rovers: During his time at Nottingham Forest and Blackburn Rovers, Brereton Díaz had periods of good health interspersed with injuries. Notably, in February 2022, he was substituted at the 70th minute due to an ankle injury, which led to him missing at least one game. This indicates he was not immune to injuries but did not have an excessively high injury rate during those stints.



  • Sheffield United: While on loan at Sheffield United in the Premier League, he had a hamstring injury. This injury sidelined him for a few matches, suggesting a need for careful management of his physical condition.

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  • Villarreal & Southampton: There isn't explicit mention of injuries during his time at Villarreal or his more recent move to Southampton, but the transition between clubs, especially from different leagues, can sometimes be physically challenging due to changes in playing style, intensity, or adaptation to new training regimes.

Types of Injuries:
  • Ankle Injury: The ankle twist at Blackburn suggests susceptibility to joint injuries which might be related to playing style or poor landing techniques.

  • Hamstring Injury: At Sheffield United, the hamstring issue points towards potential muscle strain or overuse, common in players with explosive playing styles or those who might not have optimal muscle conditioning or recovery practices.

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Playing Style:
  • Brereton Díaz is known for his pace, directness, and willingness to engage in physical battles, which can increase injury risk if not balanced with adequate recovery and conditioning.

Genetic and Physiological Factors:
  • No specific public data exists on his genetic predispositions, but his physical build and playing style suggest he's a robust player who can withstand physical challenges, though not impervious to injury.

Training and Preparation:
  • Given his career trajectory, there's an implication of good professional support in terms of training. However, transitions between clubs, especially different leagues, can test a player's physical preparation due to varied training methodologies.

Workload and Recovery:
  • Moving from the Championship to La Liga and then back to the Premier League could mean significant changes in match intensity and frequency, potentially affecting recovery and injury risk if not managed well.

Environmental Factors:
  • Playing in various countries and on different pitches might expose him to varied risks, though no specific incidents are noted due to environmental factors.

Psychological Stress:
  • Career moves, especially from Blackburn to Villarreal and then Sheffield United, might introduce stress, although no direct correlation with injuries is documented.

Conclusion:
Ben Brereton Díaz doesn't appear to be extraordinarily injury-prone, but like many footballers, he has had his share of injuries, particularly with his ankles and hamstrings. These injuries suggest areas for focused prevention strategies, such as strengthening exercises for hamstrings and potentially ankle stability work. His injury record isn't alarmingly frequent, but it does warrant attention to ensure he doesn't become more injury-prone over time, especially as he ages or if there's an increase in his playing load.

This assessment relies on public data, which might not capture all nuances of his health and fitness regime. For a more precise analysis, direct access to club medical records and personal training data would be necessary.


ChatGPT:

Ben Brereton Díaz, currently playing for Villarreal CF, has experienced several injuries during his career. Here's an overview of his injury history:


  • February 2022: Brereton Díaz sustained ankle ligament damage while playing for Blackburn Rovers, leading to a significant absence from the squad. citeturn0search3
  • November 2022: He withdrew from the Chilean national team due to a minor hip injury, which required rest and recovery. citeturn0search0
  • March 2023: After participating in an international friendly with Chile, Brereton Díaz was considered doubtful for Blackburn Rovers' subsequent match against Birmingham City due to fitness concerns. citeturn0search5
  • September 2023: While with Villarreal CF, he experienced muscle discomfort during international duty with Chile, making him doubtful for a La Liga match against Almería. citeturn0search2

Despite these injuries, Brereton Díaz has maintained a consistent presence on the field, indicating resilience and effective recovery. However, the recurrence of injuries, particularly related to his ankle and muscle strains, suggests a moderate level of injury susceptibility.


Analysis:


  • Injury Frequency: Over the past few years, Brereton Díaz has encountered injuries approximately once or twice per season.
  • Injury Severity: The ankle ligament injury in February 2022 was the most severe, causing a prolonged absence. Other injuries have been less severe, leading to shorter recovery periods.
  • Impact on Availability: While these injuries have led to missed matches, Brereton Díaz has generally returned to play without significant long-term effects.

Conclusion:


Ben Brereton Díaz exhibits a moderate injury risk, with a history of both minor and more significant injuries. His ability to recover and return to play suggests effective management and resilience. However, the recurrence of certain injuries indicates that ongoing monitoring and tailored fitness programs could be beneficial to mitigate future risks.


Note: Injury proneness can be influenced by various factors, including playing style, position, and physical conditioning. Continuous assessment and appropriate medical support are essential for maintaining player health.
 
Houston_Blade said:
Maybe Des Taylor is changing our way of thinking on signing injured players. Hopefully we’re now shying away from crocks.
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Why does everyone think Des Taylor is some sort über footballing oracle that knows more than anyone else.

I just see a bloke that's worked at a few clubs and picked up a tidy little number advising Americans on English football (which frankly probably ain't that hard). Jamie Hoyland appears to have a better CV!
 
McGrath said:
Why does everyone think Des Taylor is some sort über footballing oracle that knows more than anyone else.

I just see a bloke that's worked at a few clubs and picked up a tidy little number advising Americans on English football (which frankly probably ain't that hard). Jamie Hoyland appears to have a better CV!
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I don’t, but Jamie Hoyland seems happy to sign injured players so it’s more in hope than expectation that Des has his head screwed on.

If he was responsible for summer recruitment then maybe I’m wrong because we took a chance on a few with injury records.
 
Houston_Blade said:
I don’t, but Jamie Hoyland seems happy to sign injured players so it’s more in hope than expectation that Des has his head screwed on.

If he was responsible for summer recruitment then maybe I’m wrong because we took a chance on a few with injury records.
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Jamie Hoyland seems happy to sign injured players?

Like who

And isn't it the medical department that have the final say on whether they are injured or not anyway
 
Houston_Blade said:
I don’t, but Jamie Hoyland seems happy to sign injured players so it’s more in hope than expectation that Des has his head screwed on.

If he was responsible for summer recruitment then maybe I’m wrong because we took a chance on a few with injury records.
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Is it also in hope rather than expectation that Jamie Hoyland signs our players?
 
McGrath said:
Why does everyone think Des Taylor is some sort über footballing oracle that knows more than anyone else.

I just see a bloke that's worked at a few clubs and picked up a tidy little number advising Americans on English football (which frankly probably ain't that hard). Jamie Hoyland appears to have a better CV!
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I suspect it's quite a lot to do with the relative upturn in the quality of our signing since Taylor has been 'involved' with the club. I think you'd have to be wilfully belligerent to argue that our recruitment last summer was weak and it seems to be the general consensus that Taylor is a major factor in that.
 
McGrath said:
Jamie Hoyland seems happy to sign injured players?

Like who

And isn't it the medical department that have the final say on whether they are injured or not anyway
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Players we signed in the summer with sketchy fitness:

Campbell, Souttar, JRS, Shackleton, Cooper

One of them is back at his parent club, there are rumours another might be doing the same and Campbell has been great when he’s on the pitch but has just had an extended period out with a ‘back twinge’. Shackleton has had niggles and Cooper has been fine (fingers crossed this continues).

I’d say we certainly have a policy under Wilder of trying to maximise value from signing injured players, some come off and some don’t.

I have no idea what involvement our medical team has in transfers or injuries for that matter, if it’s more than a quick google of a players name then I’m surprised they’re still employed.
 

Can someone explain why BBD only sees Sheffield or Southampton as places to be as his family "are settled".
Where are they settled? Southampton is nowhere near us
 
Houston_Blade said:
Players we signed in the summer with sketchy fitness:

Campbell, Souttar, JRS, Shackleton, Cooper

One of them is back at his parent club, there are rumours another might be doing the same and Campbell has been great when he’s on the pitch but has just had an extended period out with a ‘back twinge’. Shackleton has had niggles and Cooper has been fine (fingers crossed this continues).

I’d say we certainly have a policy under Wilder of trying to maximise value from signing injured players, some come off and some don’t.

I have no idea what involvement our medical team has in transfers or injuries for that matter, if it’s more than a quick google of a players name then I’m surprised they’re still employed.
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I don't think you can blame Hoyland on them.

Our recruitment policy from up above of loans and freebies hamstrung us on that front. I mean if a player's going for free that is quality, there's likely to be a drawback somewhere
 
mattbianco1 said:
Can someone explain why BBD only sees Sheffield or Southampton as places to be as his family "are settled".
Where are they settled? Southampton is nowhere near us
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Presumably settled in Southampton as he already lives there. I’m guessing he enjoyed being in Sheffield last year and it’s not that far from where he was born, so family close by. Maybe his partner is local?
 
mattbianco1 said:
Can someone explain why BBD only sees Sheffield or Southampton as places to be as his family "are settled".
Where are they settled? Southampton is nowhere near us
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He bought a house in Sheffield I think. No doubt has somewhere in Southampton too unless he's commuting, but I doubt it
 

McGrath said:
I don't think you can blame Hoyland on them.

Our recruitment policy from up above of loans and freebies hamstrung us on that front. I mean if a player's going for free that is quality, there's likely to be a drawback somewhere
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I’m not blaming Hoyland for them, we’ve been signing injury prone players for years.

What I’m saying is that hopefully with the new owners (who Desmondo seems to be intrinsically linked) we have a new mindset when it comes to these matters.

If we didn’t sign crocks we’d never have signed Didzy so it’s not always a bad thing.
 
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