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Just read Morgan is staying according to JP.
What job will he have as I thought Crosby was a centre half?
Pinchy will be happy! :)
 



Darren said:
Morgan will now be working under his 4th manager.

Do you think he has compromising photos of McCabe, a goat and a tub of Vaseline?
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He's the modern day "Cec Coldwell" A salt of the earth stalwart given a job for life because.....he's a salt of the earth stalwart. I would give him a magic sponge and a bucket of water on match days. Bring back the 'trainer' role!

Seriously, some club would have offered him a "proper job" by now if he had any real aptitude...
 
You know it could well be that Morgan is actually of use. He knows the club better than probably anyone at this stage. He also seems like the kind of person that could be very good at motivating people, and I bet he isn't half bad with the tactical side of things. Its not a bad thing to keep him, it would only be a bad thing if he was kept purely because of his affinity to the club. Which I don't believe is the case.
 
Caseh said:
You know it could well be that Morgan is actually of use. He knows the club better than probably anyone at this stage. He also seems like the kind of person that could be very good at motivating people, and I bet he isn't half bad with the tactical side of things. Its not a bad thing to keep him, it would only be a bad thing if he was kept purely because of his affinity to the club. Which I don't believe is the case.
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It would be best for Morgan to go to non-league or League 2 to cut his teeth in management. Come back with some success under his belt by all means. No need to speculate whether he will make a good manager yet. He certainly has stickability in S2 though. He was lined up next to Wilson and became close to Clough. I seem to remember he did a "view from the stands" role for Adams too, he certainly looked official back then.
 
Darren said:
Morgan will now be working under his 4th manager.

Do you think he has compromising photos of McCabe, a goat and a tub of Vaseline?
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He became reserve team coach in October 2010, so that's 6 he's worked under (7 if you include Carver) Speed, Adams, Wilson, Weir, Clough and Adkins
 



sheffielder said:
As said, he's the u21 manager and looks to keep his job. Not sure why you considered him to be the solution to the 1st team woes.
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He was a fundamental part of Nigel Clough's coaching team...there, in the thick of it, on match days, just as you Bladey Blades wanted it. Now, as he's failed every bit as much as Garner and the rest, you want to re-write the page. Hypocrisy.

Not while I'm around....
 
James Boreman said:
Do people not realise Morgan is U21 manager? Why would we change our whole academy set up every time we change manager. If it ain't broke don't fix it.
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Because he's not very good at it?

Of course, much though his apologists might wish it were otherwise, he was much more involved with the first team than they now persuade themselves.

Morgan doesn't fool me. He was given a coaching job to save money, not because he showed any great aptitude. If he had, he would at least have been in contention for a lower league managerial post don't you think? No, he hasn't, has he?...Food for thought?

The guy has little to offer mate. You may want to inflate his pension fund at our club's expense...I don't.

Upanatem Morgs....Na, na, na, na....

Dear, oh dear, oh dear.....
 
Pinchy said:
Because he's not very good at it?

Of course, much though his apologists might wish it were otherwise, he was much more involved with the first team than they now persuade themselves.

Morgan doesn't fool me. He was given a coaching job to save money, not because he showed any great aptitude. If he had, he would at least have been in contention for a lower league managerial post don't you think? No, he hasn't, has he?...Food for thought?

The guy has little to offer mate. You may want to inflate his pension fund at our club's expense...I don't.

Upanatem Morgs....Na, na, na, na....

Dear, oh dear, oh dear.....
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We've got one of the best academy's in the country, so it must be doing something right. I can see why you don't want him in the first team but he's doing no harm working with the U21's.
 
James Boreman said:
We've got one of the best academy's in the country, so it must be doing something right. I can see why you don't want him in the first team but he's doing no harm working with the U21's.
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Really? Don't we want someone with genuine expertise coaching potential first-teamers in the same methods as the first-team? I'd have thought there was only one answer to that. He was a decent basic centre-half, mate, not outstanding by any means. He got injured and, just like Cresswell, he was given a coaching job to save money...no other reason. Should we bring Cresswell back, or is he insufficiently Bladey?...
 
Woodwardfan said:
It would be best for Morgan to go to non-league or League 2 to cut his teeth in management. Come back with some success under his belt by all means. No need to speculate whether he will make a good manager yet. He certainly has stickability in S2 though. He was lined up next to Wilson and became close to Clough. I seem to remember he did a "view from the stands" role for Adams too, he certainly looked official back then.
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Woody, He's been in the game as a 'coach' plenty long enough now for League Two and Non-League clubs to snap him up if they think he has the aptitude to manage them. What is 'best for Morgan' matters not a jot to them, nor should it to us.

The silence is deafening, mate. They've given their verdict.
 
SouthEssexBlade said:
Mmmm, he looks like a Hob-nobs man.
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Pinchy said:
He was a fundamental part of Nigel Clough's coaching team...there, in the thick of it, on match days, just as you Bladey Blades wanted it. Now, as he's failed every bit as much as Garner and the rest, you want to re-write the page. Hypocrisy.

Not while I'm around....
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You are being just as hypocritical by now saying that Clough, Garner and the rest "failed"? You weren't saying that before he was sacked two weeks ago.

As for Morgan. It should be Adkins decision whether he wants to keep him on and if so what role to give him.
I suspect that Wilson, Weir and Clough were all given the same decision to make and found him to be of use in different ways.
Do you really think Morgan would hang around the club indefinitely if the manager didn't want him to be there?
 
Sothall_Blade said:
You are being just as hypocritical by now saying that Clough, Garner and the rest "failed"? You weren't saying that before he was sacked two weeks ago.

As for Morgan. It should be Adkins decision whether he wants to keep him on and if so what role to give him.
I suspect that Wilson, Weir and Clough were all given the same decision to make and found him to be of use in different ways.
Do you really think Morgan would hang around the club indefinitely if the manager didn't want him to be there?
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I'm just adopting the views of others on Clough, Garner et al for the sake of the Morgan discussion to expose their hypocrisy.

Yes I do think Morgan would hang around. He's nowhere else to go. His services, like at or not, are not in demand elsewhere.
 
Firstly I think Morgan will not be on the bench on matchdays - u21 coach only - as the club will look to have a better overall structure which doesn't all walk out the door if the manager gets the push - the club needs elements of continuity and it shouldn't be like the White House where its all change when the president goes. Whether he is the right person for that job I don't know but my guess is that he is McCabe's direct conduit to what is happening in the club and that is why he is seemingly immovable. I seem to recall there being a reference to Morgan giving his views to the Board about the sacking decision or did I dream that?
 
Woodwardfan said:
It would be best for Morgan to go to non-league or League 2 to cut his teeth in management. Come back with some success under his belt by all means. No need to speculate whether he will make a good manager yet. He certainly has stickability in S2 though. He was lined up next to Wilson and became close to Clough. I seem to remember he did a "view from the stands" role for Adams too, he certainly looked official back then.
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I have no idea if he will become a good manager or anything in the future, but since this thread is full of unfounded assumptions, I thought I would join in. He could or could not become a good manager. The fact is none of us have a single clue about it, which is why I'd rather our manager to make decisions like that.
 
Posted this elsewhere.
Just ignore the trolls and hopefully they will go away.


U-21's have been successful under him every year, 3rd this year.

Transition from youth 'play to learn' football, to first team 'learn to win' football. Who better than Morgs to teach that?

Rated by every ex-player who has expressed a view.

Turned United's season around after Weir, bringing Flynn back from the cold etc.

What's the bitching about FFS.

:?
 



Pinchy said:
Woody, He's been in the game as a 'coach' plenty long enough now for League Two and Non-League clubs to snap him up if they think he has the aptitude to manage them. What is 'best for Morgan' matters not a jot to them, nor should it to us.

The silence is deafening, mate. They've given their verdict.
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Let's have a bit of respect for a good servant to the club and one of the players on my S24SU teashirt.

He was asked to integrate into the Clough team and in turn Clough went to great lengths to integrate him. Shit happens but Morgan should be respected for the efforts he made over the 20 months or so and indeed before then.

I think he is limited in the off-field leadership skills but he will make a living in football surely.
 
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