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Less than 0.1% of matching fans have a problem with Wilder being United manager as can be seen at all games, including Saturday, when he had unanimous, rousing vocal support from the terraces. Twenty or so misanthropic posters on here that are only seen when we're losing or slagging the team off on the live chat don't make a ripple in match going Blades circles. They're an endangered species. An irrelevance to real life Blades culture
 
Club is not in a position for change, we were last year and look what a massive mess the owners made of that.
Now is not the time for change we should be thankful we have Wilder as nobody else would want this right now. Its his club as well so its in the best (under the circumstances ) hands. Short term yes 100% Wilder. Medium long term no way.
 
Less than 0.1% of matching fans have a problem with Wilder being United manager as can be seen at all games, including Saturday, when he had unanimous, rousing vocal support from the terraces. Twenty or so misanthropic posters on here that are only seen when we're losing or slagging the team off on the live chat don't make a ripple in match going Blades circles. They're an endangered species. An irrelevance to real life Blades culture

Personally I have a love/hate relationship with Wilder.

Wilder mk1 could do no wrong given us the greatest times as a Blade this century.

I did think it was right to sack him after losing to Sunderland and the major f**k up was not appointing the correct successor.

Given the clubs current situation with signings, and being owned by corrupt fraudsters, its Wilder all the way, we need a Bladey Blade to get us out of this and keep us in the Championship this season. anyone who is looking beyond Wilder to stabilise the club is just wrong.
 
At the time Don Givens was the leading international goalscorer for Northern Ireland. It was a reasonable expectation given his experience and willingness to take the kick, that he'd slot it home. Alas not to be as he weakly passed the ball to the Walsall keeper. Cue rage and pandemonium.
Republic of Ireland
 
But if Wilder goes, how will fat, barely functioning alcoholics in offensively tight training tops, continue to fanaticise that they too are the manager of Sheffield United? How can they keep up this facade if someone that doesn’t drink in the Banner manages us?! He might wear hair wax too, or have a midlands accent, are you mental?

Look, the reality is, despite there being 8.31 billion other people on the planet, 71 of which are current managers of the other EFL clubs, there is NOBODY else that can manage us. Not 👏 one 👏 single 👏 person. Sheffield United is such a complex entity, so esoteric in nature that any other person not bestowed with the name Chris Wilder attempting such a a quixotic labyrinthine, would melt like that nazi at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark.

So any kind of foolish talk of replacing him is essentially condemning the club to the history bin. It’s Wilder until he’s 90 and then maybe a clone or bot of him like ChrisGPT or something.
 
But if Wilder goes, how will fat, barely functioning alcoholics in offensively tight training tops, continue to fanaticise that they too are the manager of Sheffield United? How can they keep up this facade if someone that doesn’t drink in the Banner manages us?! He might wear hair wax too, or have a midlands accent, are you mental?

Look, the reality is, despite there being 8.31 billion other people on the planet, 71 of which are current managers of the other EFL clubs, there is NOBODY else that can manage us. Not 👏 one 👏 single 👏 person. Sheffield United is such a complex entity, so esoteric in nature that any other person not bestowed with the name Chris Wilder attempting such a a quixotic labyrinthine, would melt like that nazi at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark.

So any kind of foolish talk of replacing him is essentially condemning the club to the history bin. It’s Wilder until he’s 90 and then maybe a clone or bot of him like ChrisGPT or something.

It's funny how it's only ever the Wilder haters and never the people who appreciate his undoubted skills that write things like paragraph one. You could be forgiven for thinking they're projecting and that they aren't capable of a rational analysis without reference to those things. 😉.
 
I were firmly in the get rid camp, but with this news regards the owners and all the uncertainty I’d be happy to keep him, the football will be dreadful, but we won’t go down with him. Safe pair of hands until we either get new owners, or they actually realise what they’re meant to be doing.
 
It's funny how it's only ever the Wilder haters and never the people who appreciate his undoubted skills that write things like paragraph one. You could be forgiven for thinking they're projecting and that they aren't capable of a rational analysis without reference to those things. 😉.
Mate. I’m fooking ripped. Like Zeus carved me out of marble post-coitus.

I could say the same for those that vehemently object to obvious light-hearted satire, as if I’m blaspheming.
 
Mate. I’m fooking ripped. Like Zeus carved me out of marble post-coitus.

I could say the same for those that vehemently object to obvious light-hearted satire, as if I’m blaspheming.
If it's a reference to me: I don't object, I observe.
Like a care worn Aetos Dios nonchalantly surveying a hackneyed and flaccid scene, hoping the doggerel will soon be over and the future vantages will herald a more enlightened narrative.
 



Republic of Ireland

My first wife and I were Godparents to one of Don's girls and I wrote this at the time.

Don was married to my first wife's best mate in Manchester and they knew him from his days at Man U.

I got on really well with Don and we stayed with them in Crowthorne, Berkshire, and they stayed with us in Leeds on several occasions.

By the way, Don joined us with 16 matches left and we were in 12th position - he played 11 and scored 3 under Martin Peters and if a player wanted to speak to Martin Peters, they had to make an appointment.

On the day of the match, my then father-in-law and I were sat in the JSS and we had gifts for one of Don's girls as it was her birthday and we had agreed to meet him after the match.

When Don finally went to take the penalty, my father-in-law (who had know Don since he was a lad at Man U) said to me, "Don's taking it - no chance he'll score."

When the game was over, we went round to the player's entrance and waited for Don. We asked for a message to be taken to him that we had the gifts - a message came back to leave them with the doorman as it was going to be a long time before they could leave.

Next day, in the evening, we phoned Don's wife to see how he was and she told us this.

"We had Sunday dinner and I left Don to wash up. I heard the dishes clattering as he put them into the sink and I could hear the water running. I was playing with the kids in the lounge for a while and suddenly realised there was no noise coming from the kitchen but there was no sign of Don who used to love playing games with his daughters.

I went to the kitchen to see that the sink was overflowing and there was water every where.

Don was slumped over the table with his head in his hands shaking his head as he relived the match and the missed penalty. He had told me that John Matthews was down to take penalties but he had refused. No-one else would step up so Don took the responsibility even though he was absolutely no penalty taker.

He was reliving the match and hates himself and blames himself but what could he do? No-one else would take the penalty."

Don Givens has always been blamed for taking us down and to me, the blame has always rested with Martin Peters. He took over in January from Harry Haslam when Harry was ill and we were 12th in the table with 16 to play.

Another sh1te manager!

The attached photo at our place in Leeds in the early 80's: from left; my Father in law, Moi, Mrs BoSS I's biological brother (she was adopted by my in-laws), and Don Givens far right.

He was gutted and he told me once that whenever he drives near Sheffield, he wears a mask!!! ;)
 

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Less than 0.1% of matching fans have a problem with Wilder being United manager as can be seen at all games, including Saturday, when he had unanimous, rousing vocal support from the terraces. Twenty or so misanthropic posters on here that are only seen when we're losing or slagging the team off on the live chat don't make a ripple in match going Blades circles. They're an endangered species. An irrelevance to real life Blades culture
Can we bob them all into the Twats thread?
 
Lets not get too carried away, we've got 2 points, not six. I wasn't for Wilder returning but he did. I think the way things are at the moment we should stick with him, who else would want to take it on ?. To all those knocking the so called Wilder haters, he hasn't quite returned to Messiah status just yet, hopefully he will.
 
But if Wilder goes, how will fat, barely functioning alcoholics in offensively tight training tops, continue to fanaticise that they too are the manager of Sheffield United? How can they keep up this facade if someone that doesn’t drink in the Banner manages us?! He might wear hair wax too, or have a midlands accent, are you mental?

Look, the reality is, despite there being 8.31 billion other people on the planet, 71 of which are current managers of the other EFL clubs, there is NOBODY else that can manage us. Not 👏 one 👏 single 👏 person. Sheffield United is such a complex entity, so esoteric in nature that any other person not bestowed with the name Chris Wilder attempting such a a quixotic labyrinthine, would melt like that nazi at the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark.

So any kind of foolish talk of replacing him is essentially condemning the club to the history bin. It’s Wilder until he’s 90 and then maybe a clone or bot of him like ChrisGPT or something.
Maybe get Hecky and Stuey back and then when that doesn't work get Wilder mk 4 back. We could in theory do this for the next 30yrs by which time i'll be well gone so it won't matter.
 
My first wife and I were Godparents to one of Don's girls and I wrote this at the time.

Don was married to my first wife's best mate in Manchester and they knew him from his days at Man U.

I got on really well with Don and we stayed with them in Crowthorne, Berkshire, and they stayed with us in Leeds on several occasions.

By the way, Don joined us with 16 matches left and we were in 12th position - he played 11 and scored 3 under Martin Peters and if a player wanted to speak to Martin Peters, they had to make an appointment.

On the day of the match, my then father-in-law and I were sat in the JSS and we had gifts for one of Don's girls as it was her birthday and we had agreed to meet him after the match.

When Don finally went to take the penalty, my father-in-law (who had know Don since he was a lad at Man U) said to me, "Don's taking it - no chance he'll score."

When the game was over, we went round to the player's entrance and waited for Don. We asked for a message to be taken to him that we had the gifts - a message came back to leave them with the doorman as it was going to be a long time before they could leave.

Next day, in the evening, we phoned Don's wife to see how he was and she told us this.

"We had Sunday dinner and I left Don to wash up. I heard the dishes clattering as he put them into the sink and I could hear the water running. I was playing with the kids in the lounge for a while and suddenly realised there was no noise coming from the kitchen but there was no sign of Don who used to love playing games with his daughters.

I went to the kitchen to see that the sink was overflowing and there was water every where.

Don was slumped over the table with his head in his hands shaking his head as he relived the match and the missed penalty. He had told me that John Matthews was down to take penalties but he had refused. No-one else would step up so Don took the responsibility even though he was absolutely no penalty taker.

He was reliving the match and hates himself and blames himself but what could he do? No-one else would take the penalty."

Don Givens has always been blamed for taking us down and to me, the blame has always rested with Martin Peters. He took over in January from Harry Haslam when Harry was ill and we were 12th in the table with 16 to play.

Another sh1te manager!

The attached photo at our place in Leeds in the early 80's: from left; my Father in law, Moi, Mrs BoSS I's biological brother (she was adopted by my in-laws), and Don Givens far right.

He was gutted and he told me once that whenever he drives near Sheffield, he wears a mask!!! ;)

That completely matches my memory as a 17 year old. We all abused him for missing (inspiring the hilarious Wednesday 'ThankGivens Day'), but then we found out that regular taker Matthews had bottled it, and nobody else stood up.
Peters was perhaps sold a pup, but he was way past it and a poor manager. What seemed like a half decent squad, plucked a relegation from nowhere, much like 2011.
 
At this moment Wilder represents a safe pair of hands , abeit tied by resources which isnt such a bad thing either. Suits his siege mentality .

It is though a little like dealing with someone who has a compulsive disorder or an addiction.

I cant help thinking were a few bad results away from him losing his sh1t , blaming everyone , weird team selections , weirder press conferences.

Lets hope it doesnt come to that and moderate success keeps him and the club on an even keel .
 
Thankfully it appears that Micky Collins is much more involved and a stronger personality than Alan Knill was and he will in my opinion have much more of an input to “protect” Wilder from himself
 
I don’t think he’s right for the club anymore, but equally the last thing we need right now is a new manager.

I couldn’t find that option.

Like most of the debate surrounding CW, it isn’t simply black and white, the grey areas on the stay/go spectrum often have the most compelling arguments.
 
I’m no Wilder cultist but it would be absolute insanity to get rid of him with the club in its current predicament..

We are 50/50 to go down as it is.. start dicking about with changing the manager as things are and it goes 90/10 in favour of relegation
 

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