Incoming? Jairo Riedewald

[bibbity bobbity boo]

All you kit wankers can start spaffing your pants over a bit of new shirt sleeve.

 

[PaddysMad]

He did ok at Sheffield United last term

 

[Davalon]

I posted on here a week or two back that my wife had taken a picture of a young couple who had come out of the hotel and were taking pictures in front of the South Stand.

Having seen a picture of Jairo today without his dreads she went it could have been him. I said I doubt it considering he was here last seadon.

She asked me to look his Insta up to see if his wife was on there.178k followers and not a single post

 

[Kona]

Amateurish at best ?

Yes. Should I assume you don’t agree?

 

[Rodley]

 

[Frank the tank]

Yes. Should I assume you don’t agree?

What specifically is 'amateurish at best ' about our recruitment. ,?

 

[wf9-Danny]

What specifically is 'amateurish at best ' about our recruitment. ,?

Telling someone they were retained, then saying they were being let go, they saying we really would like you to re-sign.

That doesn't strike me as being totally professional.

That said, he'll be a good player next season for us.

 

[Frank the tank]

Telling someone they were retained, then saying they were being let go, they saying we really would like you to re-sign.

That doesn't strike me as being totally professional.

That said, he'll be a good player next season for us.

That's it. ?
That's amateurish at best

 

[bertieblade]

We would have had an option to resign him at a value which we thought to be too high and subsequently renegotiated this contract which could only be done / released to the press when his initial contract had expired on June 30th.

People do find any excuse to have a go at the club they are supposed to support

 

[Weasel]

Telling someone they were retained, then saying they were being let go, they saying we really would like you to re-sign.

That doesn't strike me as being totally professional.

That said, he'll be a good player next season for us.

On the contrary, for once i think its all been undertaken in a very professional manner.

The lad liked it at Bramall Lane. The club liked him as a player. The club wanted to offer him a decrease in salary so didnt take up the original option but kept talking to him and his agent (he actually says in his interview that he has been in ongoing talks since May). The lad has waited for his original contract which ran until 30 June, to run out. Now it has, hes signed a new lower wage contract within 2 days. Id say its been very well handled by the club and they have stuck to their guns iro what we can afford to offer him. Hes been professional as he has signed at the start of the pre season to gove himself the best possible chance of being as fit as he can be.

Well done all round. But still, some like to be negative and see everything as a cock up by United. Lord knows United have made some really bad mistakes in recruitment and transfers. This isnt one of them. Well done to all in this instance.

 

[Weasel]

Just to add another point.

The club and the player have signed a 1 year deal with an option for another year, with the latter probably being in the clubs favour. So in all liklihood he will be here for 2 years. If we had just excercised the expensive original option that we had and which we declined to take up in May, we only have him for next season and he could talk to other clubs in 6 months time. Mmhh. Perhaps the club did know what it was doing here after all....

 

[Kona]

What specifically is 'amateurish at best ' about our recruitment. ,?

I don’t think we have much of a long term recruitment strategy, we seem to take each season as it comes.

Often signings are left until late in the window (I understand why some are but not most).

We’ve paid large fees for players who often don’t return their value.

We sign too many ‘end of career’ players, who don’t impact the team, and we have too many injury prone/project players.

We don’t seem to address key issues, like the replacement of JOC or Soutter when it was clearly essential.

We seem to always go for a similar profile of player.

I appreciate this is just my opinion but I do think this has been a pattern for some time now.

 

[Frank the tank]

I don’t think we have much of a long term recruitment strategy, we seem to take each season as it comes.

Often signings are left until late in the window (I understand why some are but not most).

We’ve paid large fees for players who often don’t return their value.

We sign too many ‘end of career’ players, who don’t impact the team, and we have too many injury prone/project players.

We don’t seem to address key issues, like the replacement of JOC or Soutter when it was clearly essential.

We seem to always go for a similar profile of player.

I appreciate this is just my opinion but I do think this has been a pattern for some time now.

I complete agree with all of this but none of these things are ' 'amateurish at best '
In fact as far as a long term recruitment strategy isn't our academy on of the most successful in the country with many players recruited from other academy's at a young age

I find it frustrating that we wait till late in the window but the club obviously believe that is how to get best value
I don't agree but it's not amateurish

As far as the large fees can't. Remember anyone accusing the club of being amateurish when signing berge ,Brewster or mcburnie and even cannon was chased by several clubs around us and considered a coup

The older end of career players who don't impact the team are I assume not including bamford and reidewald who saved out season last time out

As for the similar profile of player and. Or addressing losing key players I would suggest that is down to the manager when we lost souttar a replacement was brought in and not used

Althought I do broadly agree with most of your points I'm just offering a broader view but to call the club amateurish when it is clearly not is just babyish

 

[ekke287]

Just what we need! Another poppadomed legged, immobile player who can't do more than 60mins, let alone Sat/Tues..

Sell an athletic, explosive player - bring in a slow, one paced one instead...

We're truly awful at this football malarkey aren't we...

Sorry but the amount of times Brooks was blowing out of his arse after 60 minutes last season kind of makes this a somewhat invalid observation.

I like Jairo but would say he’s one of many who have issues with fitness, which points more to our training and conditioning team. We have a handful who can do 90 at best, which is frankly embarrassing.

 

[Frank the tank]

All you kit wankers can start spaffing your pants over a bit of new shirt sleeve.

It's a training top

 

[Ron_Justice]

Really don't see where the confusion / issue is here. Apparently, for once, the Club have played a players agent to get a better deal for the Club. The contracts handed out at the end of last summers window were widely seen as being inflated to the point of ridicule. Here, the Club has seen fit to rebalance things, allow a bloated deal to run down and renegotiate on better terms. Jairo's fitness issues are likely a bargaining chip for the Club to benefit in two ways - get him cheaper this year AND the 2nd year is probably contingent on performance, so, get fit, last 90 mins more often and we'll extend for another year.

The optics, if you're wilfully short sighted or, more likely, looking for a stick to beat the club with aren't ideal, but I suspect the reality is the Club has actually handled this one very well.

 

[Bladesman]

Really don't see where the confusion / issue is here. Apparently, for once, the Club have played a players agent to get a better deal for the Club. The contracts handed out at the end of last summers window were widely seen as being inflated to the point of ridicule. Here, the Club has seen fit to rebalance things, allow a bloated deal to run down and renegotiate on better terms. Jairo's fitness issues are likely a bargaining chip for the Club to benefit in two ways - get him cheaper this year AND the 2nd year is probably contingent on performance, so, get fit, last 90 mins more often and we'll extend for another year.

The optics, if you're wilfully short sighted or, more likely, looking for a stick to beat the club with aren't ideal, but I suspect the reality is the Club has actually handled this one very well.

I think had they worded it differently when we released him to mention talks are on going or something along those lines then I think from a PR point of view it would look better to the fans.

It looks like U-turn but in reality it was just negotiating a new deal.

 

[ancientblade]

Really don't see where the confusion / issue is here. Apparently, for once, the Club have played a players agent to get a better deal for the Club. The contracts handed out at the end of last summers window were widely seen as being inflated to the point of ridicule. Here, the Club has seen fit to rebalance things, allow a bloated deal to run down and renegotiate on better terms. Jairo's fitness issues are likely a bargaining chip for the Club to benefit in two ways - get him cheaper this year AND the 2nd year is probably contingent on performance, so, get fit, last 90 mins more often and we'll extend for another year.

The optics, if you're wilfully short sighted or, more likely, looking for a stick to beat the club with aren't ideal, but I suspect the reality is the Club has actually handled this one very well.

spot on very sensible deal ok his fitness was an issue last season but modern football is all about squads and rotation these days and many games are won from the bench so not as crucial for all the starting 11 to go the full 90

 

[dexter101]

It's a training top

still had messy results... that zip...

 

[Balham]

Really don't see where the confusion / issue is here. Apparently, for once, the Club have played a players agent to get a better deal for the Club. The contracts handed out at the end of last summers window were widely seen as being inflated to the point of ridicule. Here, the Club has seen fit to rebalance things, allow a bloated deal to run down and renegotiate on better terms. Jairo's fitness issues are likely a bargaining chip for the Club to benefit in two ways - get him cheaper this year AND the 2nd year is probably contingent on performance, so, get fit, last 90 mins more often and we'll extend for another year.

The optics, if you're wilfully short sighted or, more likely, looking for a stick to beat the club with aren't ideal, but I suspect the reality is the Club has actually handled this one very well.

Riedewald signed in October on a deal to the end of the season with an option to renew. It was suggested on here that the option to renew was at a higher salary than the one he'd agreed to for the season just gone. United therefore decided to not take up that option but instead begin negotiations over a new deal on lower terms. I suspect we've had a bit of brinkmanship between the club and Riedewald's agent who's tested the waters elsewhere and found that the deal offered by us was about as good as it was going to get for him.