COH Sports another set of Chancers

[programmechap]

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Just out of interest how would you compare it to the appointment of David Weir at the time? For me that was one of the worst appointments going, least this guy has an ethos which hopefully the players buy into

I think there's a difference where someone has had a stellar playing career and looks like they have good managerial attributes. Its reasonable in that situation to give them their first job. As well as Weir, we've appointed Peters, Bruce, Speed and Spackman in that situation, to mixed results.

When, however, you have a bloke with managerial experience with an average to poor record with (mainly) clubs lower down to League, giving him the job seems bizzare.

I'm vert sceptical about this talk of "ethos". If your "ethos" doesn't get results, I don't really care how theoretically pleasing it is.

 

[CrookesBlade]

Just out of interest how would you compare it to the appointment of David Weir at the time? For me that was one of the worst appointments going, least this guy has an ethos which hopefully the players buy into

Weir had no managerial experience and none since leaving us which points to the fact he wasn’t cut out for management.

Selles crucially comes with a wealth of coaching experience and crucially has managed 3 clubs in England now. They were all in a state and he did what he could with them which, for me, points to a level of pragmatism needed when managing at this level.

He’s obviously “data driven” (whatever that means) but I don’t think he’s a naive pound shop Guardiola dogmatically sticking to possession at all costs with no idea of how to tackle the Championship.

 

[Tony_Kaufman]

It's no more weird than Merced

I don't

It's not being negative. It's a rational appreciation of what looks a very strange decision. Replacing Wilder with a manager with a proven track record of achieving what we aim at - 2nd tier promotion - would be one thing. Replacing him with a manager with Selles' record is frankly bizzare.

It's no more weird than Red Bull giving Max Verstappen a seat when he hadn't won any races or gotten any podiums at Toro Rosso. He showed enough potential with an inferior car for them ti take a gamble in the belief that he would deliver the goods in a better car from what they had seen from him.

 

[Harrisblade]

I will just start off by saying I am stunned many will know I didn't hide my disdain for some of Chris Wilders tactical decisions and team decisions last season but I cannot believe we have replaced Chris Wilder with Ruben Selles.

That has to be the worst managerial appointment I can recall in my life time and we have seen some dross over the years.

But this is taking the biscuit who was in charge of finding our next manager Stevie Wonder?

I was willing to give the new owners COH Sports the benefit of the doubt.

But they have already proven they are a set of chancers I.M.O and to me it looks like the Prince has sold us to a set of penniless owners who ar going to rely on cheap foreign Imports hoping they can come good and make a profit.

I am absolutely astounded at the decision to appoint Ruben Selles Cooper Ahmedhodzic Hamer Souza etc will be off and I guarantee the money will go on cheap foreign sh*te and league 1 players that are not good enough.

Any optimism I had for the new season has disappeared and I feel thoroughly depressed being a Blade yet again.

Because as soon as we get ourselves into a good position on and off the field the owners somehow manage to f it up.

And it appears we have another set of Chancers in COH Sports who clearly do not have a clue what they are doing.

I can see the atmosphere turning ugly at the Lane especially if we have a bad start.


And if any representatives of COH are reading this well done for turning our club into a laughing stock appointing a manager that wasn't even good enough for Hull.

But wasn't CW a manager who wasn't good enough for us a while ago?

 

[Bramhall Lane blade]

Our worst managerial appointment? He Hasn't even unpacked yet! And it's a low bar.

Some weapons on here pal.

 

[The Fox]

Have we ever had a manager before that has never played football at any level?

 

[davey1889]

Have we ever had a manager before that has never played football at any level?

J B Wolstinhome and John Nicolson didnt have a playing background.

JB won the league and Nicolson won 4 FA Cups.

 

[Blade58]

The message from the board is no more than we expect. They’ve not done a lot wrong to date. The sacking of CW was always going to be contentious, but they’ve done it believing it to be for the right reasons.

Me, I’m apprehensive. A manager who needs to convince us all he can progress the club. Owners who need to convince many that they are the right type of owners. My apprehension has me wondering how much they intend to interfere in what I think are manager decisions. I get data led and AI used as a tool to help the manager make decisions, then that’s ok. If it’s AI making the actual decision then that crosses a line for me and I hope Selles has not been brought in because he accepts this

Early days, hoping these owners convince me they are the right owners for this club. Jury out for the time being.

York Blade reckons there’s some fairly positive news to be announced soon

HSBC site development?
Shirt sponsor?
Next seasons kit?

Anyone heard owt?

 

[BiggerBladeThanThou]

I’m pretty sure the universe works on a time loop where history repeats itself.

When Wilder came back the second time there was the same sense of WTF are we doing. That worked out well.

At the moment this appointment if Selles is 50/50, no one knows if it will be successful for not. We don’t know anything apart from his interview yesterday about players he wants to bring, budgets to do that, the owners objectives, etc etc.

Whilst I get Wilder was loved and sacking him will cause emotion, ultimately you do not know if this appointment will be successful or not so you’re best re-assessing at the close of the window, after 10 games etc. when you’ll be a bit more informed.

 

[PageHallBlade]

I’m pretty sure the universe works on a time loop where history repeats itself.

When Wilder came back the second time there was the same sense of WTF are we doing. That worked out well.

At the moment this appointment if Selles is 50/50, no one knows if it will be successful for not. We don’t know anything apart from his interview yesterday about players he wants to bring, budgets to do that, the owners objectives, etc etc.

Whilst I get Wilder was loved and sacking him will cause emotion, ultimately you do not know if this appointment will be successful or not so you’re best re-assessing at the close of the window, after 10 games etc. when you’ll be a bit more informed.

we also dont now if they talked to Wilder about the ai side and he basically said "nah mate" thus sealing his exit

 

[Sharrow Snuff Mill]

For me the appointment is there because he has been identified as having potential. When you look at the clubs he has been at, he was chucked in Hecky Mk2 style at Southampton where he didn’t have a chance but still managed to beat Chelsea away and get a 4-4 draw from Liverpool. At Reading he had zero cash with the club on the brink of going bust. He was chucked in at Hull being bottom of the league and managed to save them from relegation. He had a net spend of approx £1.5mill with some loan signings in January to keep them up. With some cash behind him and better players to work with there is potential that we drag ourselves and some of the fan base out of the factories, mills, steelworks, whippets and flat caps and into the 21st century.

I am somewhat underwhelmed by the appointment, but I like your positivity and optimism, and hope some rubs off on me.

 

[BiggerBladeThanThou]

we also dont now if they talked to Wilder about the ai side and he basically said "nah mate" thus sealing his exit

More than likely.

 

[Ned the Donkey]

Having read the latest Board statement I feel positive about the next few years and how the Club can progress.

It's easy to write a statement that everyone agrees with. "We all want success for this historic club."

It's not the aims, it's the methods that matter.

"We all want success for this historic club and we plan to get that through the creative use of tarot readings, green tea, and crystal healing."

"We all want success for this historic club and we plan to get that through innovative forward thinking use of ChatGPT (Pro)."

"We all want success for this historic club and we plan to get that through twatting it to the Big Lad up front."

It's obviously early days, and they did back Wilder heavily in the JTW, which signals ambition - but on the downside there seems to be a lot of unquestioning and, so far,unproductive faith in technology.

I've no idea which way it's going to go. Storming the division with breathtaking high pressing all action soccerball, or clueless incoherent strangers adrift in midtable mediocrity.

Looking forward to finding out.

 

[Dkc]

Could have been a lot worse...might have appointed big name Wayne Rooney...

Yes, what a relief we finalised the signature of Poundland Arteta before he was snapped up by Man City or Real Madrid.

I really want Selles to succeed but for every Arteta there's more than one Xisco Munez. I hope he hits the ground running. If our owners are willing to sack Wilder they'll definitely be willing to sack Selles if we're outside the top six mid-season.

 

[Davalon]

I'll judge COH on what they do when the parachute payments dry up at the end of this season

Why do that when you can weigh in now?

Spivs, yank cunts, treacherous wankers, just some of the descriptions I've read from people I know personally in the last day or two.

 

[Bookers Mullet]

Do they have the best interests of the club at heart?
No. They have the best interests of their money at heart, which fortunately for us means running a successful football club.

 

[Tongeincheek]

There should be a third voting option in this poll - "I doubt any of these septics give the slightest toss about the ultimate best interests of the club, but they need us to be successful while they own us for them to make the sweet sweet cash that they crave above all else... so they'll not tank us on purpose out of spite."

 

[GrayBlade]

I will just start off by saying I am stunned many will know I didn't hide my disdain for some of Chris Wilders tactical decisions and team decisions last season but I cannot believe we have replaced Chris Wilder with Ruben Selles.

That has to be the worst managerial appointment I can recall in my life time and we have seen some dross over the years.

But this is taking the biscuit who was in charge of finding our next manager Stevie Wonder?

I was willing to give the new owners COH Sports the benefit of the doubt.

But they have already proven they are a set of chancers I.M.O and to me it looks like the Prince has sold us to a set of penniless owners who ar going to rely on cheap foreign Imports hoping they can come good and make a profit.

I am absolutely astounded at the decision to appoint Ruben Selles Cooper Ahmedhodzic Hamer Souza etc will be off and I guarantee the money will go on cheap foreign sh*te and league 1 players that are not good enough.

Any optimism I had for the new season has disappeared and I feel thoroughly depressed being a Blade yet again.

Because as soon as we get ourselves into a good position on and off the field the owners somehow manage to f it up.

And it appears we have another set of Chancers in COH Sports who clearly do not have a clue what they are doing.

I can see the atmosphere turning ugly at the Lane especially if we have a bad start.


And if any representatives of COH are reading this well done for turning our club into a laughing stock appointing a manager that wasn't even good enough for Hull.

Good to see most are laughing at this apart from a few (ahem) new members.

 

[luffenhamblade]

Thomas Frank only got Brentford to 10th last season. Tottenham must be mad employing him. He hasn't won anything. He's a rubbish manager. They just sacked Ange after he won a trophy and replaced him with Frank. Wah, wah, wah!!!

I do wish some of our fans could look at the bigger picture and not just judge people on results and league position.

Kind of agree but not sure Spurs are a great example of successful management appointments under Levy?

 

[LBA_Blade]

I am somewhat underwhelmed by the appointment, but I like your positivity and optimism, and hope some rubs off on me.

Normally charge extra for that but since you are a blade its on the house!

 

[Dkc]

Do they have the best interests of the club at heart?
No. They have the best interests of their money at heart, which fortunately for us means running a successful football club.

Bottom line is it means running a PL club and avoiding relegation. If success is defined as avoiding relegation, then they want success.

Of course playing in Europe or winning a trophy would be great, but financially all that matters is the PL money. By that metric we can win one in three games and still be 'successful'

 

[Blade56]

What feckin evidence is there that COH are chancers.

Bought club
Passed most stringent financial and character tests by EFL
Funded JTW
Started improving infrastructure
New pitch
Hotel opened
Want success so mush so paradigm shift
Puts plans in place

What have they done to call them chancers?
At least they don’t think feckin earths flat

 

[Houston_Blade]

Kind of agree but not sure Spurs are a great example of successful management appointments under Levy?

Getting Nick Montgomery on the coaching staff was a pretty big coup.

 

[Houston_Blade]

What feckin evidence is there that COH are chancers.

Bought club
Passed most stringent financial and character tests by EFL
Funded JTW
Started improving infrastructure
New pitch
Hotel opened
Want success so mush so paradigm shift
Puts plans in place

What have they done to call them chancers?
At least they don’t think feckin earths flat

Remember all American business owners are exactly the same and sack people on sight, all they’re bothered about is money and none of them know anything about football.

Must be true because I read it on here.

 

[Tony_Kaufman]

What feckin evidence is there that COH are chancers.

Bought club
Passed most stringent financial and character tests by EFL
Funded JTW
Started improving infrastructure
New pitch
Hotel opened
Want success so mush so paradigm shift
Puts plans in place

What have they done to call them chancers?
At least they don’t think feckin earths flat

Is the water in the sea fizzy or still? If 71% of the Earth is made up of water and it's not fizzy, then technically doesn't that make the Earth.... * cough * ...... flat?

 

[Blade56]

What feckin evidence is there that COH are chancers.

Bought club
Passed most stringent financial and character tests by EFL
Funded JTW
Started improving infrastructure
New pitch
Hotel opened
Want success so mush so paradigm shift
Puts plans in place

What have they done to call them chancers?
At least they don’t think feckin earths flat

Forgot to mention buying HSBC for Accademy

 

[Blade56]

Is the water in the sea fizzy or still? If 71% of the Earth is made up of water and it's not fizzy, then technically doesn't that make the Earth.... * cough * ...... flat?

Amazing factoid on a Technical point, 71% is covered by water, only this much makes up by volume…..



Big blue blob is sea small one lakes and rivers

 

[Not_a_Cheat]

The owners/Board of Directors paid a lot of money to buy The Blades from The Prince. They wanted to sign a new manager, Selles. I back them. Give our new manager a chance to show us what he can do for the Blades. I am impressed by the first interview He did a few hours ago.So I will back Him as a proper Blade should do.
UP THE BLADES.

No bigger blade card played well

 

[247Blade]

The message from the board is no more than we expect. They’ve not done a lot wrong to date. The sacking of CW was always going to be contentious, but they’ve done it believing it to be for the right reasons.

Me, I’m apprehensive. A manager who needs to convince us all he can progress the club. Owners who need to convince many that they are the right type of owners. My apprehension has me wondering how much they intend to interfere in what I think are manager decisions. I get data led and AI used as a tool to help the manager make decisions, then that’s ok. If it’s AI making the actual decision then that crosses a line for me and I hope Selles has not been brought in because he accepts this

Early days, hoping these owners convince me they are the right owners for this club. Jury out for the time being.

York Blade reckons there’s some fairly positive news to be announced soon

HSBC site development?
Shirt sponsor?
Next seasons kit?

Anyone heard owt?

No patience... just let's wait and see!

 

[programmechap]

Yes, what a relief we finalised the signature of Poundland Arteta before he was snapped up by Man City or Real Madrid.

I really want Selles to succeed but for every Arteta there's more than one Xisco Munez. I hope he hits the ground running. If our owners are willing to sack Wilder they'll definitely be willing to sack Selles if we're outside the top six mid-season.

Exactly. Pointing out the few managers with crap records who later succeeded is beside the point. The vast majority of managers with crap records are, in fact, crap.