People calling for wilder to go…

[Yoonited]

Yeah, they get ball forward quickly play off their big man Chris Wood and use their pace in wide areas. Have you? Here you are, fewest passes completed in the whole league, Forest:

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Yeah,pass the ball forward quickly,with purpose,often look like scoring.
If only we might have that energy n purpose.
Not my interpretation of hoof.You choose your own

 

[Roygbiv]

Almost every United fan I know says "yeah, I'm glad we are competing but the football is abysmal to watch"

Most I speak to aren't even bothering watching the last 3 games and lots aren't going to the play-offs. I still think a lot of it is a hangover from last season and knowing what will happen if we get promoted. We've done extremely well this season in terms of results but it's been a slog to watch for the most part and there's been nothing to suggest this team is anywhere near ready for Premier League football.

 

[Ned the Donkey]

Most I speak to aren't even bothering watching the last 3 games and lots aren't going to the play-offs.

I wasn’t sure about promotion, but over time I’ve become pretty certain I’d rather we stayed in this division.

This is the football (not the VARball) - and a lot of the teams - I grew up watching and enjoying. More of the same please.

As for the style of play: Wilder and Knill (CWAK+) have found a way to win games on relatively limited resources, little or no time to prepare, and a stack of injuries including two season-ending injuries to key players - Arblaster and Souttar. It’s not like we’ve got MGW and Iliman - or Coutts and Duffy - sat on the bench.

The View From routinely points out how shit we are. Maybe they’ve got a point. But the table, till recently at least, pointed out how good we were at “winning games of football”.

It’s been substance over style for the most part. Hopefully the style will catch up at some point. Coventry for instance was a sign that it might.

Against that, there’s the fact that the sheer number/volume of games can be relentless. I’m not sure anyone’s lighting up the division. Nor could they without two full strength, fully-fit squads.

Burnley may be even better than us at what we are trying to do. Effective football. To back that up, looking at the table, they’ve scored exactly the same number of goals as we have. The teams who have scored more are L***s, Coventry, Middlesbrough, and Norwich.

Then there’s the double.

I’m completely apathetic about today, the last home game, the play-offs, but for me at least it’s not to do with scratching around in the bottom three, trying to make it to double figures of points; it’s more about Lundstram’s Toe, Jonjo Shelvey, the Villa free kick, and all the rest.

We could win that League next season with 100 points and I wouldn’t be the slightest bit interested.

As things stand I’d settle for an eternity of pushing the rock up the hill to Promotion only to watch it fall back down in the play-offs.

"The struggle itself towards the heights is enough to fill a man's heart. One must imagine Sisyphus happy."

The Football of the Absurd

 

[Nick Jansky]

Wilder and Knill (CWAK+) have found a way to win games on relatively limited resources

Relative to what? Because they’re not relatively limited compared to the rest of the division. The exact opposite, in fact.

 

[Yoonited]

Yeah,pass the ball forward quickly,with purpose,often look like scoring.
If only we might have that energy n purpose.
Not my interpretation of hoof.You choose your own

Yeah,pass the ball forward quickly,with purpose,often look like scoring.
If only we might have that energy n purpose.
Not my interpretation of hoof.You choose your own

 

[GymClassHero]

I get what you’re saying and I have my own criticisms of Wilder. If we don’t go up I would want a change this summer. I definitely wouldn’t go as far as you, though—I wouldn’t call him clueless.

It’s just all academic because no ownership would change horses at this stage. And I think there’s a good reason for that.

McCabe did it in league one...

 

[nopigfansintown]

I wasn’t sure about promotion, but over time I’ve become pretty certain I’d rather we stayed in this division.

This is the football (not the VARball) - and a lot of the teams - I grew up watching and enjoying. More of the same please.

As for the style of play: Wilder and Knill (CWAK+) have found a way to win games on relatively limited resources, little or no time to prepare, and a stack of injuries including two season-ending injuries to key players - Arblaster and Souttar. It’s not like we’ve got MGW and Iliman - or Coutts and Duffy - sat on the bench.

The View From routinely points out how shit we are. Maybe they’ve got a point. But the table, till recently at least, pointed out how good we were at “winning games of football”.

It’s been substance over style for the most part. Hopefully the style will catch up at some point. Coventry for instance was a sign that it might.

Against that, there’s the fact that the sheer number/volume of games can be relentless. I’m not sure anyone’s lighting up the division. Nor could they without two full strength, fully-fit squads.

Burnley may be even better than us at what we are trying to do. Effective football. To back that up, looking at the table, they’ve scored exactly the same number of goals as we have. The teams who have scored more are L***s, Coventry, Middlesbrough, and Norwich.

Then there’s the double.

I’m completely apathetic about today, the last home game, the play-offs, but for me at least it’s not to do with scratching around in the bottom three, trying to make it to double figures of points; it’s more about Lundstram’s Toe, Jonjo Shelvey, the Villa free kick, and all the rest.

We could win that League next season with 100 points and I wouldn’t be the slightest bit interested.

As things stand I’d settle for an eternity of pushing the rock up the hill to Promotion only to watch it fall back down in the play-offs.

"The struggle itself towards the heights is enough to fill a man's heart. One must imagine Sisyphus happy."

The Football of the Absurd

Coventry at home were one of the few teams we play that have a go at us. Invariably when they do the football is more entertaining and we create more chances. That's a consistent pattern throughout the season. Very few teams come and have a go. Indeed, even when they play at their home grounds they sit in and try and nick it on the break.

It's a myth that the fans would be ever so supportive if we only played ultra expansive even if we lost games. Boro away, Leeds home, QPR home, Coventry away, Sunderland away. The Blades were the protagonists in all of those games. They were the "entertainers". The other side counter attacked. Find the threads on here and see how happy the locals were that we "went for it". The team who are second who we play tonight, played on the break at BL. I don't remember many happy Blades after that game because we opened up and took the game to them.

 

[nopigfansintown]

Most I speak to aren't even bothering watching the last 3 games and lots aren't going to the play-offs. I still think a lot of it is a hangover from last season and knowing what will happen if we get promoted. We've done extremely well this season in terms of results but it's been a slog to watch for the most part and there's been nothing to suggest this team is anywhere near ready for Premier League football.

Don't you find the concept "ready for Premier League football" a strange one? Exactly who ever was? Certainly not Forest. So who was the last team to get promoted and be ready to consolidate? The next time the Blades are 'ready' (if ever) we'll go up and nobody will have any idea we're 'ready' as the owners will take a wrecking ball to the squad afterwards.

The teams that survive are pragmatic teams that play on the break even if they have a blank cheque book (Forest). They aren't the ultra expansive attacking sides that concede three and score four.

 

[Ned the Donkey]

Coventry at home were one of the few teams we play that have a go at us. Invariably when they do the football is more entertaining and we create more chances. That's a consistent pattern throughout the season. Very few teams come and have a go. Indeed, even when they play at their home grounds they sit in and try and nick it on the break.

It's a myth that the fans would be ever so supportive if we only played ultra expansive even if we lost games. Boro away, Leeds home, QPR home, Coventry away, Sunderland away. The Blades were the protagonists in all of those games. They were the "entertainers". The other side counter attacked. Find the threads on here and see how happy the locals were that we "went for it". The team who are second who we play tonight, played on the break at BL. I don't remember many happy Blades after that game because we opened up and took the game to them.

100%.

I'm not sure what the difference is between a Low Block - that's 21st Century football terminology to me - and Parking the Bus, but neither seems to make for a great spectacle.

 

[Th!stledo]

"The struggle itself towards the heights is enough to fill a man's heart. One must imagine Sisyphus happy."

Worth 100 Likes just for this quote. Brilliant !!!

 

[Roygbiv]

Don't you find the concept "ready for Premier League football" a strange one? Exactly who ever was? Certainly not Forest. So who was the last team to get promoted and be ready to consolidate? The next time the Blades are 'ready' (if ever) we'll go up and nobody will have any idea we're 'ready' as the owners will take a wrecking ball to the squad afterwards.

The teams that survive are pragmatic teams that play on the break even if they have a blank cheque book (Forest). They aren't the ultra expansive attacking sides that concede three and score four.

Yeah I agree with you. It's not United's fault the pyramid is broken but the way we've played this season means it's difficult to think we're building towards anything that you could imagine working in The Premier League, even with better players.


Burnley will be the interesting one to watch next season from our view. They're basically a better version of what we have tried to do.

 

[Ned the Donkey]

Worth 100 Likes just for this quote. Brilliant !!!

You are James Shield and I claim my £5.

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

Most I speak to aren't even bothering watching the last 3 games and lots aren't going to the play-offs. I still think a lot of it is a hangover from last season and knowing what will happen if we get promoted. We've done extremely well this season in terms of results but it's been a slog to watch for the most part and there's been nothing to suggest this team is anywhere near ready for Premier League football.

It's a sad state of affairs. If your team reaches the playoff final and you can afford to go, then you should go and support them.

The number of fans we took to the FA Cup semi-final was embarrassing. People didn’t go because we wouldn’t win. Get over yourselves.

It shows that we’re either not as well-supported or have a more entitled fan base compared to teams like Coventry, Leeds, Southampton, and Sunderland. Even them lot the other side of the city would sell out. Unfortunately, we wont.

If we won (highly unlikely) you’d probably miss one of the best days as a blade, and if we lose? Well we’ve all seen it happen before so I’m sure we’ll get over it

 

[Roygbiv]

It's a sad state of affairs. If your team reaches the playoff final and you can afford to go, then you should go and support them.

The number of fans we took to the FA Cup semi-final was embarrassing. People didn’t go because we wouldn’t win. Get over yourselves.

It shows that we’re either not as well-supported or have a more entitled fan base compared to teams like Coventry, Leeds, Southampton, and Sunderland. Even them lot the other side of the city would sell out. Unfortunately, we wont.

If we won (highly unlikely) you’d probably miss one of the best days as a blade, and if we lose? Well we’ve all seen it happen before so I’m sure we’ll get over it

I think for many it's a lot of money for something they've experienced before. The way we've played and ended this season has sucked a lot of life out of people too. If we had finished 6th and crept in, the outlook would be different.

I'm 100% going to the play-offs and I went to the FA Cup semi-final. I can't understand people not wanting to be there for something we have never achieved before but I don't think we would sell out and I think the semi will probably be the lowest crowd of the season. I don't think it's a lack of support because we've sold it out before. I don't think it's entitlement because that would surely mean people expect us to win when they clearly don't. I think we are still on a hangover from last seasons kicking and the reward just isn't exciting anymore for loads of fans

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

I think for many it's a lot of money for something they've experienced before. The way we've played and ended this season has sucked a lot of life out of people too. If we had finished 6th and crept in, the outlook would be different.

I'm 100% going to the play-offs and I went to the FA Cup semi-final. I can't understand people not wanting to be there for something we have never achieved before but I don't think we would sell out and I think the semi will probably be the lowest crowd of the season. I don't think it's a lack of support because we've sold it out before. I don't think it's entitlement because that would surely mean people expect us to win when they clearly don't. I think we are still on a hangover from last seasons kicking and the reward just isn't exciting anymore for loads of fans

Too much negativity, we’re crap and we’ve been crap most of the season.

But the good times are few & far between as a Blade so if you can afford it get yourself down there.

 

[Roygbiv]

Too much negativity, we’re crap and we’ve been crap most of the season.

But the good times are few & far between as a Blade so if you can afford it get yourself down there.

You also have a fair amount of fans who genuinely don't want us to go up. They're not just saying it either. I know 2 people who aren't renewing if we get promoted but are if we stay down. It's a crazy state of affairs. Like I said, I think it all comes back to the horrors of last season and I don't think the performances this season have been enough for most to think next season will be anything other than another miserable experience. We're in a weird place as a club.

 

[Steve Lindley-French]

it’s embarrassing to see. We’re 3rd in the table, way higher than anyone expected this year. We’ve had 3 really cruel games and so many fans have just completely spat the dummy out. Who on earth do you think would do a better job with this squad? How totally delusional do you have to be to think this team should be higher than what it is? It makes us look pathetic.

Spot on! Crazy boardroom nonsense all season, recovery from disastrous Prem campaign, and still Wilder has kept us competitive...and not over yet!

 

[prescotblade]

Would like a win today and its not beyond happening. However agree i don't thing we ready for the premier league and last season reinforces this. If we make the playoff final will be there, but not entirely confident we will win. Been to every play off and therefore previous experience not reinsuring, but surely this must change. Any way at a young 71 years old i will just enjoy the event and being with fellow beadsmen.
Do think the ownership need to need to do a review and set a long term plan for the club and whilst it would be good to see fans involved as part of this review, there seems to be an expectation of a miracle. We need to be realistic in expectations.

 

[Th!stledo]

You also have a fair amount of fans who genuinely don't want us to go up. They're not just saying it either. I know 2 people who aren't renewing if we get promoted but are if we stay down. It's a crazy state of affairs. Like I said, I think it all comes back to the horrors of last season and I don't think the performances this season have been enough for most to think next season will be anything other than another miserable experience. We're in a weird place as a club.

I suppose it doesn't help to see how the teams promoted last season have done in the Premier League.
I did actually believe Leicester would have survived ok, bearing in mind their recent history.
So probably not just Blades fans?

 

[Ned the Donkey]

You also have a fair amount of fans who genuinely don't want us to go up. [...] We're in a weird place as a club.

I imagine it's not just us.

How about a play-off final between Middlesbrough and Sunderland which finishes 0-0 after extra time, with minimal incident, and then the players from both teams chip, twat, or stutter-run-sidefoot all their penalties into the crowd for the next two or three hours, desperately trying to avoid winning the "richest game in football".

The crowd drifts away, and eventually the floodlights go out as the grounsdman has to get home for his tea.

Even the commentators eventually run out of enthusiasm at the riches on offer in The Greatest League in the World.

Who wants to spend a year of a short-lived professional career trying to scrape together 12 points in 38 games and thereby triumphantly surpass Derby's total.

And if you ever do score it has to go through layers of bureaucracy before anyone knows if it actually counts.

A wet Tuesday night in Stoke sounds like a dream compared to all that.

 

[Nick Jansky]

You also have a fair amount of fans who genuinely don't want us to go up. They're not just saying it either. I know 2 people who aren't renewing if we get promoted but are if we stay down. It's a crazy state of affairs. Like I said, I think it all comes back to the horrors of last season and I don't think the performances this season have been enough for most to think next season will be anything other than another miserable experience. We're in a weird place as a club.

I think if you accept being a yo-yo club you take the pain of the PL season knowing that the money will equip you for an enjoyable season back in the Championship. We have been one of the dominant group, as we could expect, but the football has been grim to watch & below expectations.

 

[ChipButtyBlade]

Who says we are going to Wembley ?

 

[gordoncharles]

You also have a fair amount of fans who genuinely don't want us to go up. They're not just saying it either. I know 2 people who aren't renewing if we get promoted but are if we stay down. It's a crazy state of affairs. Like I said, I think it all comes back to the horrors of last season and I don't think the performances this season have been enough for most to think next season will be anything other than another miserable experience. We're in a weird place as a club.

I'm in kind of the same position, albeit as an armchair fan. I don't think you can turn down the opportunity and I realise it's essential in order to keep the money that allows you to be competitive in the Championship when you're inevitably relegated - however long that takes.

The problem I have this time around is I think we're worse than any of the three who went up last season and without an almost entirely new starting eleven we'd just experience the same raggings and negative press we got the last time. Make that two times.

 

[IdLiketoRogerMoore]

You also have a fair amount of fans who genuinely don't want us to go up. They're not just saying it either. I know 2 people who aren't renewing if we get promoted but are if we stay down. It's a crazy state of affairs. Like I said, I think it all comes back to the horrors of last season and I don't think the performances this season have been enough for most to think next season will be anything other than another miserable experience. We're in a weird place as a club.

I think it's a lot to do with the narrative too. We're not building anything. There's no infrastructure off the pitch that suggests we'll do anything different to last time, and the time before that.

Add in how dull/one dimensional we've been this season (Wilders tactics look like someone trying to get 10kg of shit into a 5kg bag) and there's no confidence in him/the club that the PL will be any different to last time.

 

[Roygbiv]

I'm in kind of the same position, albeit as an armchair fan. I don't think you can turn down the opportunity and I realise it's essential in order to keep the money that allows you to be competitive in the Championship when you're inevitably relegated - however long that takes.

The problem I have this time around is I think we're worse than any of the three who went up last season and without an almost entirely new starting eleven we'd just experience the same raggings and negative press we got the last time. Make that two times.

Yeah, I think this would definitely be the worst of the 3 sides we've gone up with in recent years too. Obviously we lost our two best players last time but fans know this isn't a great team in comparison to our other promotion teams and are aware how badly it would likely fare.

I thought the Burnley fans tonight were really subdued considering they got promoted and that's probably likely because they have the same feelings as our fans. They have a better team than us but are going to have a terrible time next season and their fans know it

 

[BlairBlade]

You are James Shield and I claim my £5.

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Albert is my hero.
‘In the midst of winter I finally learned that there was within me an invincible summer’.

 

[Frank the tank]

Who says we are going to Wembley ?

It's what happens if you win your play off semis

 

[Booker4]

Most I speak to aren't even bothering watching the last 3 games and lots aren't going to the play-offs. I still think a lot of it is a hangover from last season and knowing what will happen if we get promoted. We've done extremely well this season in terms of results but it's been a slog to watch for the most part and there's been nothing to suggest this team is anywhere near ready for Premier League football.

It's not ready for PL football, no way. However, winning a play off is probably as good as it's going to get for the s as a day out. May e one day we'll win a cup competition but at the minute the PL is just getting stronger and pulling further away from the Championship.

So winning at Wembley in a play off is probably the best we can hope for. I'll always go, one day we'll win at that shit hole!

 

[Roygbiv]

It's not ready for PL football, no way. However, winning a play off is probably as good as it's going to get for the s as a day out. May e one day we'll win a cup competition but at the minute the PL is just getting stronger and pulling further away from the Championship.

So winning at Wembley in a play off is probably the best we can hope for. I'll always go, one day we'll win at that shit hole!

Completely agree

 

[Tickhill Blade]

I'll always go, one day we'll win at that shit hole!

I might have this written on my gravestone