People calling for wilder to go…

[ChipButtyBlade]

It's what happens if you win your play off semis

 

[Guesty]

"The struggle itself towards the heights is enough to fill a man's heart. One must imagine Sisyphus happy."

The Football of the Absurd

Of course Camus himself was a footballer so he knew what he was talking about.

History doesn't record whether or not he was a United fan, but given his interest in pessimism we must assume might have been.

 

[BrisBlade]

I've been supportive of Wilder this season and think he did a great job with the rebuild last summer. He seems to have lost the plot again of late though. I've frankly been embarrassed by some of the behaviour of late. It's good to hate losing, but the predictable fracas after every loss is hurting us financially, showing the opposition we are easily rattled, and sullying the reputation of the club. Time to move on.

 

[Blade56]

You obviously think Wilder has performed poorly this season,

In answer to your question, no, I don’t think Wilder has performed poorly this season. In fact he has excelled, surpassed my wildest hopes, etc. But he’s done it his way and almost got away with it.

That is what is so exceptional about his achievement in today’s modern version of football. It’s like the days of a cup of tea and a fag at half time, it’s the way it was done but not anymore. Grinding out results from average players, winding up the opposition etc belongs with the old ways now.

I think this is where opinions are misunderstood between fans.

I want Wilder replaced and make no bones. Not because I dislike him but because the game (business) has changed and he hasn’t/wont/cant. Hopefully the new owners will install a modern club mentality and operation, if they don’t it’s just rinse and wash like we did in the past all the way back to L1 oblivion hike other clubs evolve.

Wilder deserves the plaudits of his achievements with us, end on a high, make it worth his while and remember him for the positives but please drag the operation of the club into the present.

 

[Blade56]

It's not ready for PL football, no way. However, winning a play off is probably as good as it's going to get for the s as a day out. May e one day we'll win a cup competition but at the minute the PL is just getting stronger and pulling further away from the Championship.

So winning at Wembley in a play off is probably the best we can hope for. I'll always go, one day we'll win at that shit hole!

We’ll go just because of FOMO. The only downside this time is one of my sons and my grandson can’t go IF we get to Wembley as they are on holiday. We’ve gone this far togevver.

 

[Ned the Donkey]

That is what is so exceptional about his achievement in today’s modern version of football. It’s like the days of a cup of tea and a fag at half time, it’s the way it was done but not anymore. Grinding out results from average players, winding up the opposition etc belongs with the old ways now.

I'm not sure I fully buy this idea of Wilder as a stick in the mud.

He's completely overhauled, shelved, deconstructed the overlapping CBs for instance; and has said more than once in interviews this year that the players have been learning on the job (as it were) all season, a new way to play. That doesn't always go well. See Slav for instance.

(As an aside I sometimes wonder what happened to the Alan Knill Free Kick Kama Sutra, but I figure it's been temporarily shelved while the players make their way through the Zen of Pep's Backwards and Sideways is Forwards.

As an aside to an aside there was a Sliding Doors moment very early on in the Millwall game. Corner from the right. Brewster gets across his man. Sidefoot towards goal. It looks for all the world like it's going in the bottom corner...but instead it goes wide. It had Alan Knill written all over it, and if that goes in, who knows where we'd be now.)

And I think he might have given away more than usual, when in an interview he said he took the Watford job "so I could learn". I took this to mean, "so I could learn how to manage the egos of players working as individuals and not for the team": maybe the kind of players a team might need - beyond the usual CWAK fixer-upper - if it's going to avoid future relegation from the "Premier" League.

With extremely rare exceptions, managers obviously have a pretty short shelf-life: times, ideas, approaches, everything moves on, and maybe Wilder is being left behind, but if he is I'm not sure it's because he's trying to impose old ideas on a new world.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

Be careful what you wish for, because it may be a soulless disconnect from the spirit of this club:

 

[AdamSufc1997]

Be careful what you wish for, because it may be a soulless disconnect from the spirit of this club:

If he came in when these new owners came in he would have us playing proper football