Sheffield United vs Leeds United

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  • Bramall Lane, Sheffield
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Sheffield United SUFC 1 - 3
Half Time: 1 - 0 1 - 3
Half Time: 1 - 0 1 - 3
Half Time: 1 - 0 		Leeds United LEEDS
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EFL Championship Matchweek 34 - Monday 24th February 2025 - 20:00 - Bramall Lane
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Before tonight they've dropped points in 12 football matches. That's 9 away matches from 16 played. We've dropped points in 11 games, that's in 4 of our 16 home games.

So I'm nervous of the result like in any big match we play, however let's not pretend they are the invincibles. West ham beat Arsenal on Saturday... do you think either set of fans expected that?

If Leeds roll up with the same mentality as the majority of their fans, then we'll win. Sadly Farke will not allow that, but I'm astonished as to why any fan of ours writes us off before kick off.

On a plus note, we are not finishing above anyone important due to goal difference, so this is, as many have alluded to, a free hit. A defeat is zero points and it doesn't matter if that's 1 nil, 4 nil or 7-3.

UTB
 

Not_a_Cheat said:
Before tonight they've dropped points in 12 football matches. That's 9 away matches from 16 played. We've dropped points in 11 games, that's in 4 of our 16 home games.

So I'm nervous of the result like in any big match we play, however let's not pretend they are the invincibles. West ham beat Arsenal on Saturday... do you think either set of fans expected that?

If Leeds roll up with the same mentality as the majority of their fans, then we'll win. Sadly Farke will not allow that, but I'm astonished as to why any fan of ours writes us off before kick off.

On a plus note, we are not finishing above anyone important due to goal difference, so this is, as many have alluded to, a free hit. A defeat is zero points and it doesn't matter if that's 1 nil, 4 nil or 7-3.

UTB
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Couldn't agree more.
While the likes of the pigs and dirties are way too cocky, we have always been grounded and realistic.

But recently many posters on here seem to have gone way too far the other way. I can't remember a time going back decades when we have earned so many points, accumulated so many wins and consistently been in the top 3, where there has been so much carping & negativity.

Is this just a mentality that has become entrenched on this forum, or do many match attending supporters feel the same? I don't get that impression at games, so I just don't get it.
 
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If I was Wilder I’d go to what we know.

4231

Clarke Anel Robbo Burrows
Peck vini
JRS O’Hare Hamer (if not BBD)
Campbell

Nice and simple. All the fans would be happy then so no moaning.
 
west_yorks_blade said:
Couldn't agree more.
While the likes of the pigs and dirties are way too cocky, we have always been grounded and realistic.

But recently many posters on here seem to have gone way too far the other way. I can't remember a time going back decades periods when we have earned so many points, accumulated so many wins and consistently been in the top 3, where there has been so much carping & negativity.

Is this just a mentality that has become entrenched on this forum, or do many match attending supporters feel the same? I don't get that impression at games, so I just don't get it.
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Probably because the football has been awful to watch for the last five seasons. Our first season in the Premier League under Wilder was the last time we consistently played good football that entertained the fans. Ever since then, for five seasons, no matter the result, the football has not been good to watch. We grind out results, often undeserved. Teams we go up against often outplay us and look better on the ball, more often than not by matching our own formation and "tactics" but doing it better, irrespective of the outcome at the final whistle.

Why do United fans accept mediocrity so easily and see entertaining football as an unrealistic notion?

No one is moaning about League position or results, but anyone who say we play good football or are entertaining to watch are deluded.

You don't owe Sheffield United, Sheffield United owes you. You pay good money to watch Sheffield United. Sheffield United does not pay you to watch them. You wouldn't pay £35 to go to the cinema knowing that the movie you're about to see is crap, and yet we pay good money week in, week out to watch Sheffield United play sub-standard poor football, and those that criticise are bizarrely made out to be the problem. This mentality makes no sense whatsoever. Football is an entertainment business so is it unreasonable to pay £35 to be entertained once in a while?
 
Tony_Kaufman said:
Probably because the football has been awful to watch for the last five seasons. Our first season in the Premier League under Wilder was the last time we consistently played good football that entertained the fans. Ever since then, for five seasons, no matter the result, the football has not been good to watch. We grind out results, often undeserved. Teams we go up against often outplay us and look better on the ball, more often than not by matching our own formation and "tactics" but doing it better, irrespective of the outcome at the final whistle.

Why do United fans accept mediocrity so easily and see entertaining football as an unrealistic notion?

No one is moaning about League position or results, but anyone who say we play good football or are entertaining to watch are deluded.

You don't owe Sheffield United, Sheffield United owes you. You pay good money to watch Sheffield United. Sheffield United does not pay you to watch them. You wouldn't pay £35 to go to the cinema knowing that the movie you're about to see is crap, and yet we pay good money week in, week out to watch Sheffield United play sub-standard poor football, and those that criticise are bizarrely made out to be the problem. This mentality makes no sense whatsoever. Football is an entertainment business so is it unreasonable to pay £35 to be entertained once in a while?
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Thanks for engaging reasonably with my question Tony.

I don't agree that we have been awful for the last 5 seasons. Yes our last couple of stints in the PL have been grim, although I think the lack of investment in quality PL level players severely hamstrung our managers ability to play enjoyable football.

But I have enjoyed our promotion seasons in the Championship on the whole - obviously there have been some poor performances. But that's football, for all but a handful of clubs. Ultimately I would prefer to win ugly than lose playing well.
 
Tony_Kaufman said:
Probably because the football has been awful to watch for the last five seasons. Our first season in the Premier League under Wilder was the last time we consistently played good football that entertained the fans. Ever since then, for five seasons, no matter the result, the football has not been good to watch. We grind out results, often undeserved. Teams we go up against often outplay us and look better on the ball, more often than not by matching our own formation and "tactics" but doing it better, irrespective of the outcome at the final whistle.

Why do United fans accept mediocrity so easily and see entertaining football as an unrealistic notion?

No one is moaning about League position or results, but anyone who say we play good football or are entertaining to watch are deluded.

You don't owe Sheffield United, Sheffield United owes you. You pay good money to watch Sheffield United. Sheffield United does not pay you to watch them. You wouldn't pay £35 to go to the cinema knowing that the movie you're about to see is crap, and yet we pay good money week in, week out to watch Sheffield United play sub-standard poor football, and those that criticise are bizarrely made out to be the problem. This mentality makes no sense whatsoever. Football is an entertainment business so is it unreasonable to pay £35 to be entertained once in a while?
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Don’t agree with this entirely. First season back in champ with MGW and ndiaye we played some terrific stuff. It’s been a mixed bag since then but the championship is about winning tight games on a consistent basis- it’s a slog.
 
So long as he doesn’t have another brain fart and go 5 at the back and 2 holding in the middle again I can see this being a 2-2 draw. Someone to get sent off as well

Leeds are good, but we also have some good players going forward. Just need to use them and look for spaces in behind Bogle
 
Lucky1979 said:
So long as he doesn’t have another brain fart and go 5 at the back and 2 holding in the middle again I can see this being a 2-2 draw. Someone to get sent off as well
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Got a feeling you might be in for a shock
 

There are 2 big issues regards this match.

1: Wilder has made it very clear he expects everyone to be back, so it’s exciting to field our strongest squad of the entire season.
Our subs bench should have a few game changers on it…..exciting stuff eh?

However my fear is that tonight…..we’ll see about 4 players still missing from the squad
And no doubt Wilder will say it was too early and they are all definitely available next week for the QPR game.

2: Will Wilder go for it….fighting fire with fire…..like we did in the last home game against Boro, which was one of the our best performances of the seasin
Or will Wilder be tactical….starting with a team to contain them so at half time we’re still in it. Will he play a back 5?

We tried to be tactical at Elland Road and altho we limited Leeds to only a few chances….we were never in the match.
So I’m hoping that even if we lose……we can all say we’ve given it a goal and put Leeds under big pressure.

I’ve seen loads of football over the decades.
The media and Leeds fans think they’ve already won the league…..hoping their players think the same.

Football has a habit of biting you in the arse……therefore fairly confident we’ll win, probably 2-1 to the Blades, attendance 29,872.
Then we’ll either draw or even lose our next match away at QPR…with Leeds winning…so they return back to the top of the table next week.

Another good bet is a 1-1 draw because both teams will be reasonably pleased with that scoreline.
 
Tony_Kaufman said:
I'm very pessimistic about this one and expect a defeat. We've lacked consistency all season and have never really clicked and got going despite the ground out results. We've recently been outplayed by teams at the bottom of the table and fluked undeserved wins against them and the Middlesbrough game is looking like yet another false dawn, much like the Bristol City and Norwich games, these being the only three games that we've played well in for the entire game ALL season.

Who knows. Maybe we'll fluke an undeserved win against Leeds.

Maybe we'll click and beat them like we did 'Boro.

Maybe we'll click but end up losing having played well all game.

Or maybe we'll put in another lacklustre performance and Leeds will rip us a new one.

I'd love to be optimistic going into this but there's been no indication recently that we wil play well. We are so inconsistent it's not even funny and Wilder's constant square pegs into round holes doesn't help. The fact we are top two going into this only highlights how poor this division really as opposed to how good we are, and only further highlights the huge gap in quality between the Championship and Premier League.

Don't get me wrong, I would love us to win tonight as I despise Leeds, but I just don't see it happening unless by some miracle we find another 'Boro performance.
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Were you not entertained when we played Boro less than 2 weeks ago. No we don’t play free flowing expansive football every week but what we are doing is getting results. Would you sooner us be in mid table but play a brand of football you class as acceptable?.
 
Tony_Kaufman said:
Probably because the football has been awful to watch for the last five seasons. Our first season in the Premier League under Wilder was the last time we consistently played good football that entertained the fans. Ever since then, for five seasons, no matter the result, the football has not been good to watch. We grind out results, often undeserved. Teams we go up against often outplay us and look better on the ball, more often than not by matching our own formation and "tactics" but doing it better, irrespective of the outcome at the final whistle.

Why do United fans accept mediocrity so easily and see entertaining football as an unrealistic notion?

No one is moaning about League position or results, but anyone who say we play good football or are entertaining to watch are deluded.

You don't owe Sheffield United, Sheffield United owes you. You pay good money to watch Sheffield United. Sheffield United does not pay you to watch them. You wouldn't pay £35 to go to the cinema knowing that the movie you're about to see is crap, and yet we pay good money week in, week out to watch Sheffield United play sub-standard poor football, and those that criticise are bizarrely made out to be the problem. This mentality makes no sense whatsoever. Football is an entertainment business so is it unreasonable to pay £35 to be entertained once in a while?
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Isn't the entry fee more in hope you see a winning performance, winning the match by any means?

Or surely for all but the last 2 weeks there'd be a queue from Watford to the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium for entertainment purposes?

I accept that entertaining football and winning matches is the aim. In truth it's probably a dream unless you're Liverpool or City of the last few seasons.

Do you think 1 nil to the Arsenal was entertaining?

Last teams I can remember doing anything of the like were Bkackburn Rovers and then Newcastle United under Keegan. There were others but I'm pretty sure the higher percentage of fans would prefer coming away from the match having won the match luckily 1 nowt, than lost a 5-4 thriller in the last moments...

Just an opinion.

But bigging up the opposition is ridiculous. I'll assure you Leeds have had results that saw their fans grumbling. Wasn't it Preston away when they escaped defeat late late on?
 
Unless there's an early goal, I can see it being close and scrappy. Happily take a point from this. They're quick and flimsy in attack but also quick and flimsy in defence. The game will be won in the middle of the park. Turn overs and quick counters will be key. Tempted to play players to keep Firpo and Bogle back. We need to run the channels and use the space they leave in the counter. I'd play 3 in the middle. Allow Choudhury a removing pressing role.
 
Depends who turns up.

Middlesbrough type front foot performance and BL rocking then we are as good as anyone in this league.

Timid performance like some of our last few and we’ll get blown away, could see a 2 or 3 goal margin.

I fear the latter.
 
Whatever happens tonight or next weekend we'll still be in the top 2. Hoping for a positive performance and a win tonight.
 
Promotion is the aim, even though some on here would rather languish in the Championship, so tonight's game is a shot to nothing, win and boost confidence and 3 points to boot, draw, I'd take that, lose and we've some poor teams to make the points back up,. Come on blades !
 
Do we have any news on Gus? Is he playing or is it under wraps?

UTB
FTP
 
Need a win tonight otherwise I have to face the prospect of running a gauntlet of two Leeds fans tomorrow.
 

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