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Told by a retired footballer I asume. Seems well informed.
All this Berge/N'diaye crap does my head in, neither of them wanted to be here and guess what even if they had both stayed we would be in exactly the same place as we are now ie Rock bottom.
Berge wasn't actively pursuing a move away. We tried to move him on every window for two years.All this Berge/N'diaye crap does my head in, neither of them wanted to be here and guess what even if they had both stayed we would be in exactly the same place as we are now ie Rock bottom.
Whether they wanted to stay or not, the clubs lack of planning is nothing short of shambolicAll this Berge/N'diaye crap does my head in, neither of them wanted to be here and guess what even if they had both stayed we would be in exactly the same place as we are now ie Rock bottom.
No, but he wouldn't sign a new contract either. What he really wanted was to walk for free.Berge wasn't actively pursuing a move away. We tried to move him on every window for two years.
Disagree massively- we could have kept Berge and Ndiaye (best player for 50 years) with proper incentive- don't believe the smoke and mirrors.All this Berge/N'diaye crap does my head in, neither of them wanted to be here and guess what even if they had both stayed we would be in exactly the same place as we are now ie Rock bottom.
I've never believed we would stay up but we only lost 1-0 to Palace with a team that would struggle in the league below, and to a late goal at Forest with a team not much better.Disagree massively- we could have kept Berge and Ndiaye (best player for 50 years) with proper incentive- don't believe the smoke and mirrors.
WE would have been alot better in first few games- definitely NOT rock bottom.
It's funny that the article is accredited to Gregor Robertson, but the clubs and dates mentioned would fit with Tony Cascarino who also writes for the Times.Told by a retired footballer I asume. Seems well informed.
All this is putting pressure on the Prince I hope he reads it !! Maybe he will be more inclined to take an offer even if its a partial buyout ( invester).
Should make him squirm he knew from day one we were doomed ! He says he loves the club! his next moves will confirm this or not over to you Prince.!
Doomed yes ! I don't think he expected us to be smashed the way we have been so often.
Yes it's all on him.
If he really wanted to then why didn't he? Did he sign for Burnley at gunpoint?No, but he wouldn't sign a new contract either. What he really wanted was to walk for free.
Probably true, but with hindsight keeping them till at least almost the end of the window gives us more of a chance to get early points. Selling them then having to wait for replacements cost us a chance to get more points on the board early. With Ndaiye even if hes not in brilliant form (we will never know) we press the opposition a million times better.All this Berge/N'diaye crap does my head in, neither of them wanted to be here and guess what even if they had both stayed we would be in exactly the same place as we are now ie Rock bottom.
I meant rather than sign for us. Everyone's got a price, and Burnley were prepared to hit it. Plus the VC / ego effect, I'd guess.If he really wanted to then why didn't he? Did he sign for Burnley at gunpoint?
I agree.Told by a retired footballer I asume. Seems well informed.
All this is putting pressure on the Prince I hope he reads it !! Maybe he will be more inclined to take an offer even if its a partial buyout ( invester).
Should make him squirm he knew from day one we were doomed ! He says he loves the club! his next moves will confirm this or not over to you Prince.!
Doomed yes ! I don't think he expected us to be smashed the way we have been so often.
Yes it's all on him.
Hi Stegosaurus hereAll this Berge/N'diaye crap does my head in, neither of them wanted to be here and guess what even if they had both stayed we would be in exactly the same place as we are now ie Rock bottom.
most knew that ,nothing new .
The article mostly stated the obvious and tells us little new. I'm struggling to work out how someone can get that infuriated by it that they don't even know which newspaper they're reading
The article mostly stated the obvious and tells us little new. I'm struggling to work out how someone can get that infuriated by it that they don't even know which newspaper they're reading
perhaps they knew where the club was heading . no wonder they wanted to go . I also think most fans knew where we were heading to .All this Berge/N'diaye crap does my head in, neither of them wanted to be here and guess what even if they had both stayed we would be in exactly the same place as we are now ie Rock bottom.
Agree but it's just nice to have mainstream media hilighting the owners part in all this shambles rather than banging on about Wilder & sandwiches.
agree ,the prince has said it was his best piece of business selling Ndiaye ,Well what now princy baby ?Disagree massively- we could have kept Berge and Ndiaye (best player for 50 years) with proper incentive- don't believe the smoke and mirrors.
WE would have been alot better in first few games- definitely NOT rock bottom.
Most on here thought Hamer was an upgrade on Berge. The truth is neither are good enough for the Premier LeagueSome of this was well discussed at the time.
People said Berge wouldn't be missed and it didn't matter, plus we'd got money etc etc. Not unfair comments by any means bit as was also mentioned, these things have impacts on the remaining players. As it states in the article, a senior player highlighted the squad's morale.
I've generally stuck up for the owner but not having enough money is one thing, behaving in this fashion is another.
I agree he would have taken their cash even though they were as bent as a butchers hook . Thanks PL from saving us from an even worse nightmare than the one we have now.I agree.
Furthermore, let’s explode the myth that the Prince loves the club. and has our best interests at heart.Yeah right, he loves us so much, he was prepared to walk away, take the money, if they had it, and leave us in the hands of Henry Mauriss and then Dozy Mmobuosi. Thankfully the EFL/Prem, helped us dodge those particular bullets.
I'm not sure that's quite true, but the fortunes of both him and Berge have done nothing to strengthen the argument that we'd have been okay if we'd kept them.Hi Stegosaurus here
Ndiaye has exposed himself as a one-season wonder. He went to France, which is the same level as the Championship and flopped big time.
None is disputing that, but the fact the manager wanted to keep him as he sees him as a key player in us staying up and then finds out through the other clubs staff sending him a picture that he's leaving and then having to contact our hierarchy to drag an answer out of them, is unbelievably poor and not how a club even in the championship nevermind a club just promoted to the richest league in the world should be doing businessAll this Berge/N'diaye crap does my head in, neither of them wanted to be here and guess what even if they had both stayed we would be in exactly the same place as we are now ie Rock bottom.
Berge I still say I can live without. He's doing what he did with us in the Premier League before - looking a bit better than the rest of a failing group.Most on here thought Hamer was an upgrade on Berge. The truth is neither are good enough for the Premier League
Didn't he publicly say quite early in the process of both 'takeovers' that he didn't think that either would actually happen, though?I agree.
Furthermore, let’s explode the myth that the Prince loves the club. and has our best interests at heart.Yeah right, he loves us so much, he was prepared to walk away, take the money, if they had it, and leave us in the hands of Henry Mauriss and then Dozy Mmobuosi. Thankfully the EFL/Prem, helped us dodge those particular bullets.
Imho they're very different players.Most on here thought Hamer was an upgrade on Berge. The truth is neither are good enough for the Premier League
The issue I have with Hamer is that the expectation for him to drop back down a league and just be good again isn’t realistic. He’s probably wanting to get a move asap based on the shitshow he’s been a part of this season.Imho they're very different players.
I liked Hamer in the Champ and was happy when we signed him. He started off well but has faded badly.
That said this team won't be aiding his performances or confidence either.
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