Wilder presser today

[Jan Age]

I don’t know what’s happening to wilder but he’s lost some of that mojo… seems to be a yes man… thanking the board… for what… fuck off

 

[SUFCinks]

Did you go to the game? Saying we were “shit” is frankly idiotic.

I didnt. I watched the game on Tele. We were utter shit.

 

[Keef Chedwyn]

 

[SUFCinks]

Wilder is correct to call out the constant bullshit in our games. In the last week we've had a Brighton lad go down in installments and get a pen whilst diving constantly throughout the game without punishment. Osula gets wiped out and it's nothing doing. Then the assault on our keeper goes totally unpunished in the Palace game. We've also had the Nunez scissor tackle that went unpunished which led directly to a goal. Nunez was on a booking btw. Enzo goes through the back of Fleck on a booking and you know the rest. Then you have arguably the worst foul of the season on Souza that is looked at by VAR resulting in no red . If Wilder isn't going to stick up for the club who will?

Some serious clutching and rose tinted specs been worn with some of those.

 

[nopigfansintown]

Some serious clutching and rose tinted specs been worn with some of those.

Out of interest which ones? I'll concede that the Enzo one isn't a mandatory second yellow. More a 'very lucky to get away with being skinned on the edge of your own box and ploughing through the back of someone without getting a second yellow' decision. I don't see much debate at all with the others.

 

[A Storm of Blades]

Wilder is correct to call out the constant bullshit in our games. In the last week we've had a Brighton lad go down in installments and get a pen whilst diving constantly throughout the game without punishment. Osula gets wiped out and it's nothing doing. Then the assault on our keeper goes totally unpunished in the Palace game. We've also had the Nunez scissor tackle that went unpunished which led directly to a goal. Nunez was on a booking btw. Enzo goes through the back of Fleck on a booking and you know the rest. Then you have arguably the worst foul of the season on Souza that is looked at by VAR resulting in no red . If Wilder isn't going to stick up for the club who will?

Not forgetting McB’s booking/sending off for the crime of telling the ref his shirt’s being pulled.

 

[nopigfansintown]

Not forgetting McB’s booking/sending off for the crime of telling the ref his shirt’s being pulled.

Was that game where they played 16 minutes added time and Wes was elbowed twice, the second time resulting in him having stitches on the pitch? Or was that another game .

 

[Bladesman]

We lose a game by fine margins again and get a camera shoved in your face straight after. Pretty sure we'd be all be having a moan, these people are human. Look at Klopp in some of his. If Wilder (or any of us) were asking for answers from an official and they couldn't be arsed to look us in the eye and take it seriously, we'd find it disrespectful. Would they keep eating their supper if it was Ferguson, Mourinho, Pep? Phrased poorly, granted.

Think a journo could jump on the forum and see far more to be embarrassed about than a comment about a lino eating a sandwich.

Klopp moans when he is fucking winning the piano toothed dickhead.

 

[Bladesman]

I don’t know what’s happening to wilder but he’s lost some of that mojo… seems to be a yes man… thanking the board… for what… fuck off

For giving him the chance to return.

PA never wanted him to go though.

 

[Esteban Cambiasso]

Nah mate, you enjoy your sandwich while you're meeting with a Premier League manager.

It was the way that he shoehorned "Premier League" into there that made it sound so daft imo, as if the level they're at should make a blind bit of difference.

Premier league manager

 

[Esteban Cambiasso]

Out of interest which ones? I'll concede that the Enzo one isn't a mandatory second yellow. More a 'very lucky to get away with being skinned on the edge of your own box and ploughing through the back of someone without getting a second yellow' decision. I don't see much debate at all with the others.

Lets be right ... We've benefitted from some dodgy decisions recently, a very soft penalty against West ham and what looked like a stone wall penalty not given for West ham 2 minutes later

 

[A Storm of Blades]

Lets be right ... We've benefitted from some dodgy decisions recently, a very soft penalty against West ham and what looked like a stone wall penalty not given for West ham 2 minutes later

In fairness, Wilder referred to 50/50s largely going against us which I would agree with. I also don’t really think it’s a conspiracy. You only have to watch/listen to most of the mainstream sporting channels to know we’re not exactly well liked this year. Referees are not immune to that sentiment, as Clattenburg accidentally revealed.

We’re skint (and the Premier League LOVES money), we don’t have any romantic narrative about us, and we’re northern. So I think it’s pretty clear why we’re getting the thin end of the wedge.

 

[Esteban Cambiasso]

In fairness, Wilder referred to 50/50s largely going against us which I would agree with. I also don’t really think it’s a conspiracy. You only have to watch/listen to most of the mainstream sporting channels to know we’re not exactly well liked this year. Referees are not immune to that sentiment, as Clattenburg accidentally revealed.

We’re skint (and the Premier League LOVES money), we don’t have any romantic narrative about us, and we’re northern. So I think it’s pretty clear why we’re getting the thin end of the wedge.

Two pens that changed a game totally went in our favour tho, he's making himself and the club look daft

 

[A Storm of Blades]

Two pens that changed a game totally went in our favour tho, he's making himself and the club look daft

He wasn’t talking about big calls (which I would still say are against us over the season). He was talking about 50/50s in most games. And he’s right, but if you understand what the Premier League is about, I sort of understand/expect us to get very little - as an unknown Premier League referee apparently warned Wilder before he started.

 

[The Crab]

I don’t know what’s happening to wilder but he’s lost some of that mojo… seems to be a yes man… thanking the board… for what… fuck off

For rescuing him from a future of part time punditry presumably…..

 

[crazyblade1889]

I don’t mind him having a whinge, he’s always been a mardy prick but I wish he’d stop the “Premier League manager” bullshit. He didn’t take the club to the Premier League and is only managing in this league by default.

 

[The Crab]

Strange thing to get hung up on, the lino eating a sandwich.

And the premier league manager comment, not necessary

 

[Newbury Blade]

My thought on sandwich gate was why was the lino having a sarnie at gone 10pm? Surely he had his tea pre match given it didn't kick off until 8

I didnt. I watched the game on Tele. We were utter shit.

Ah, that’s where I went wrong. I went to the game, and we weren’t.

 

[A Storm of Blades]

I think the implication is he wouldn’t have done that to another Premier League manager such as a Klopp. Cringe though, I agree

 

[bornablade]

McAtee getting pushed in the back in the area TWICE. No penalty.

 

[SUFCinks]

Ah, that’s where I went wrong. I went to the game, and we weren’t.

Cool story.

I totally forget they air a totally different game. Silly me.

 

[SUFCinks]

Out of interest which ones? I'll concede that the Enzo one isn't a mandatory second yellow. More a 'very lucky to get away with being skinned on the edge of your own box and ploughing through the back of someone without getting a second yellow' decision. I don't see much debate at all with the others.

I’ll start with latest game and the claim that there was an assault on grbic. Their lad was stretching for the ball and Grbic was rushing out to claim it. It was a coming together and contact but no intent, it wasn’t reckless and wasn’t late as they both reached the ball at basically the same time. Mateta, just like grbic is just going for the ball. No elbows, studs, knees, kicks, punches etc.

There is an inconsistency with the application of cards and decisions so if thats your argument then i’m with you and/or misunderstood. But i don’t think that all those things are red cards or that other clubs don’t suffer from the same inconsistencies. I think most clubs get shafted with bad decisions regularly.

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

Strange thing to get hung up on, the lino eating a sandwich.

And the premier league manager comment, not necessary

Aye
Guess it depends what the filling was ?

He’d have every right to be incandescent if it was a Crab Catering MSM Prawn ( flavoured) in an artisan ‘rustic’ bread cake ?

(* No natural colours flavours or preservatives )

 

[Champagneblade]

I think there is a fair comment in there from Chris, however narky some decide to take it.

Can you imagine Fergie stepping in to speak to the officials and one of them largely ignoring him and eating a sandwich.

They had a choice to tell him ‘not now’ and didn’t so he can’t have been interrupting them at an in opportune moment.

Just put Fergie in that scenario and imagine the guy just half listening and carrying on eating. It just doesn’t happen. Chris is fed up with being treated on and off the field as second class citizens and he’s made a point.

He’s narky but Klopp does it and it’s ’clever’.

What Chris did was nowhere near the ballpark of Klopp talking of replaying games when they had a man sent off vs Spurs. Yet it was done not for that game, but to affect future games. I think they got a fair few penalties not long after.

If the players feel some injustice too, then more the better.

So, why not? May as well die with your boots on!

 

[A Storm of Blades]

I think there is a fair comment in there from Chris, however narky some decide to take it.

Can you imagine Fergie stepping in to speak to the officials and one of them largely ignoring him and eating a sandwich.

They had a choice to tell him ‘not now’ and didn’t so he can’t have been interrupting them at an in opportune moment.

Just put Fergie in that scenario and imagine the guy just half listening and carrying on eating. It just doesn’t happen. Chris is fed up with being treated on and off the field as second class citizens and he’s made a point.

He’s narky but Klopp does it and it’s ’clever’.

What Chris did was nowhere near the ballpark of Klopp talking of replaying games when they had a man sent off vs Spurs. Yet it was done not for that game, but to affect future games. I think they got a fair few penalties not long after.

If the players feel some injustice too, then more the better.

So, why not? May as well die with your boots on!

Great points, well made. It’s all a similar theme he’s putting across, that our club are getting treated disrespectfully both on and off the field. I can accept big club bias from officials and the media, but this year it’s been completely beyond the pale. Some of the criticism we’re receiving is over the top and you can see the (unconscious) bias on the field. The Brighton cup game is perfect microcosm of what we’re up against.

Let’s have it right, Wilder is getting criticised as much for saying it with a working class northern accent, as he is for the content.

 

[ATL Recs]

Was that game where they played 16 minutes added time and Wes was elbowed twice, the second time resulting in him having stitches on the pitch? Or was that another game .

No same one when Wes was taking the piss with the ball and time wasting ( something he has been very good at this season) -and the very same one that those sat around me "they will add at least 10 on"

 

[nopigfansintown]

No same one when Wes was taking the piss with the ball and time wasting ( something he has been very good at this season) -and the very same one that those sat around me "they will add at least 10 on"

A good five or six of those were for the stitches from one of the two elbows. Highly embarrassing for them to be pissing and moaning about that one. You had to be there to truly appreciate it.I think they added 13 on and played 16 albeit after two goals (one minute).

 

[nopigfansintown]

I think there is a fair comment in there from Chris, however narky some decide to take it.

Can you imagine Fergie stepping in to speak to the officials and one of them largely ignoring him and eating a sandwich.

They had a choice to tell him ‘not now’ and didn’t so he can’t have been interrupting them at an in opportune moment.

Just put Fergie in that scenario and imagine the guy just half listening and carrying on eating. It just doesn’t happen. Chris is fed up with being treated on and off the field as second class citizens and he’s made a point.

He’s narky but Klopp does it and it’s ’clever’.

What Chris did was nowhere near the ballpark of Klopp talking of replaying games when they had a man sent off vs Spurs. Yet it was done not for that game, but to affect future games. I think they got a fair few penalties not long after.

If the players feel some injustice too, then more the better.

So, why not? May as well die with your boots on!

They're supposed to be working. Do that in most workplaces and see how it goes down. I think Wilder made a fair point albeit clumsily. If he said "this is the highest level of English football in the supposed best league in the world" yadda yadda, it would've come across better. The way he said it could be interpreted as bit arrogant.

 

[Valley Blade]

Lets be right ... We've benefitted from some dodgy decisions recently, a very soft penalty against West ham and what looked like a stone wall penalty not given for West ham 2 minutes later

Except it wasn't a stonewall penalty. They were both wrestling each other. Ex professionals on MOTD said the same.

 

[Dkc]

Except it wasn't a stonewall penalty. They were both wrestling each other. Ex professionals on MOTD said the same.

The fact that someone once played football at a high level doesn't make them an expert on refereeing decisions. It's like claiming someone's an expert on war crimes because they had a stint in the army.