CONFIRMED Iliman Ndiaye to Marseille

[LJBlade]

Someone explain how Marseille can agree terms with Iliman without having agreed anything with United? Isn't that illegal?

No, see comment #1453

 

[Berkshire Blade]

Someone explain how Marseille can agree terms with Iliman without having agreed anything with United? Isn't that illegal?

It's gone football works now. As hecky said last year most bids that go in the club has already agreed a deal with the player or his agents. Both for and against us. We showed a player around the training ground back in April without a bid made!

 

[ReeceofBDTBL]

If he goes we’re basically gonna bomb to the bottom of the league like when Norwich sold Buendia the summer they got promoted

 

[jt64]

No one player wins you the league, no one player stops you getting relegated these are facts. Illi gives us a chance but does he give you more chance than 3-4 players that could maybe be brought in if we got say £20m?

Yes, and it is not particularly close

 

[blader]

It’s just a formalisation that the premier is just too much of a stretch for a club like ours can be sustainable in the top tier. There’s a ‘natural order’ of things in this world (even within some leagues) and sadly we will never be able to maintain a competitive team in the top division.

It’s not sad, only if you want it to be. Let’s just be the best version of the club we can be, getting up every now and then!

Ndiaye was special but the problem with players that are too good for your level is they inevitably leave to clubs dripping in money that will just bully you out of it.

Cest la vie!

 

[SouthportBlade]

Said before, it’s really simple.

Set our value. Let him go if a club meets it.
If not he goes for nothing next year.

PA hasn’t sold cheap to date, so expect us to recoup a ‘fair’ fee for him if he goes.

Those complaining about mismanagement should try to force someone to sign a contract who doesn’t want to sign.

Those complaining about loyalty, should turn down their boyhood club and Champions League football.

N’Diaye was ALWAYS destined for bigger things. If this is it, enjoy the memories.

 

[Colombia Blade]

Not if United have given them permission to discuss a contract

Why would we give them permission to discuss a contract without agreeing a price? If he agrees a bumper contract then we reject their bid, it's just gonna lead to a very unhappy player. Surely if these rumours are true, we've already agreed a price?

 

[RecordBreakers]

Yes, and it is not particularly close

 

[Carlton Blade]

Why would we give them permission to discuss a contract without agreeing a price? If he agrees a bumper contract then we reject their bid, it's just gonna lead to a very unhappy player. Surely if these rumours are true, we've already agreed a price?

This is the new way of doing things. If the player can't agree terms there's no point the clubs talking I suppose?

 

[Nelson1889]

Why? What's wrong with being realistic about it? Selling him does pretty much doom us. How can anybody not see that?

If it's an unavoidable course of action and the club see taking a bit of cash as our best option then we can still have hope for a positive future, just further down the line than this seasons almost nailed on relegation

When we sold deane the first time did we immediately write the season off before a ball had even been kicked??

Did we fuck, we battled and got behind the team and were a last minute goal away from staying up.

This resignation to our fate is just nauseating from some.

 

[Carlton Blade]

No one player wins you the league, no one player stops you getting relegated these are facts. Illi gives us a chance but does he give you more chance than 3-4 players that could maybe be brought in if we got say £20m? If we can get decent money and start the rebuild that we all know we need then it makes more sense to sell for ££ than lose for nothing! If illi stayed and got injured an out for the season with no money to replace him then we would be up shit creek.

Of course he does. If he was on a 5 year deal right now how much do you think he'd go for? That £20m valuation is only that low because of his contract. Players like him are almost impossible to find and for a club like United definitely impossible to replace

 

[Colombia Blade]

This is the new way of doing things. If the player can't agree terms there's no point the clubs talking I suppose?

Fair enough. I'm seeing it the other way - if they can't match our valuation, no point the player discussing contracts. Suppose you need both to happen

 

[robbiez666]

Is it just me but why go too Marseille,
yes they are in the Champions League but they are around the same odds as Celtic too win it so are likely to go out in the Group stage. The French league is at best only the 5th best league in Europe.
I get he supports them and wants too play for them but surely playing in arguably the best league in Europe would be better at this stage of his career.
I don't necessarily mean he should stay with us i just think moving too the French league is a bit of a backwards step.

Give over.

Don't you think there's a chance he's looked at the noises coming out of the club about not having much money to spend and decided he'd rather play for one of the best teams in France, his home team club and the club he supports, in the Champion's league than playing in a team likely to be under the cosh and create very few chances? Living in the place he was born again? Seeing his mates he grew up with?

There's no guarantee he'd do a great deal in the EPL. Running down his contract while having a bad season would hardly boost his earning potential. When he's played against better defenders, for club and country, he's been a lot less effective.

I get your point about leagues but it's not like he's had serious interest here from anyone outside Everton.

 

[Sparky_Blade]

£10m with a stipulation of a year loan back. If not tell them to do one. I'm dreaming I know

 

[Bl4desutd]

Sounds promising

Nothing whatsoever on Sky Sports news transfer website…. But strange

 

[Houso]

Said before, it’s really simple.

Set our value. Let him go if a club meets it.
If not he goes for nothing next year.

PA hasn’t sold cheap to date, so expect us to recoup a ‘fair’ fee for him if he goes.

Those complaining about mismanagement should try to force someone to sign a contract who doesn’t want to sign.

Those complaining about loyalty, should turn down their boyhood club and Champions League football.

N’Diaye was ALWAYS destined for bigger things. If this is it, enjoy the memories.

I also think it's absurd that those supporters proclaiming their adoration for Ili would repay his loyalty to the club and what he did for us last season by begrudging him a move to the club he's vocally eager to move to.

 

[Pedro Verde]

Bet the Samaritans are busy tonight

 

[Carlton Blade]

Fair enough. I'm seeing it the other way - if they can't match our valuation, no point the player discussing contracts. Suppose you need both to happen

Agents are doing all this work in the background anyway. I suppose this is a way to at least bring it into the light

 

[Bl4desutd]

Must be true if fabrizio says so.

He seems to know stuff that nobody else whatsoever knows….who is he?

 

[Houso]

Fair enough. I'm seeing it the other way - if they can't match our valuation, no point the player discussing contracts. Suppose you need both to happen

There will have already been a ball park figure suggested too. The fee structure and exact price isn't agreed, but they know the general region we want.

 

[Bl4desutd]

Was going to buy tickets for Chesterfield and Rotherham matches tomorrow. Now having second thoughts

 

[Addison]

If this happening and its a big if then the Club will be best served by re-employing the third party consultant who negotiated the Ramsdale fee. Anything less than £20 million with add ons and the Club will receive significant criticism for allowing a star player to walkaway for less than what Coventry got for Gyokeres. I doubt the Club will take kindly to OM inferring negotiations are on their terms. They are not we are the selling club but unfortunately we don't have the expertise in house to get a deal concluded on our terms. The other question is have OM got the reddies to pay for a £20 million plus deal. We all remember Bruges failed attempt to low ball us on Berge last season.

Of course this is all speculation and designed to unsettle the player and the Club. At times like this you need visible leadership coming out and making a statement along the lines of a. its not happening or b. it is but its on our terms at our price and our time scale dependant on us receiving our valuation. Thats not the witterings of El Accounto.

The sale if it happens will test the Boards desire to make a go of it in the EPL. Use the money to improve the side such as Doyle and O'Brien and secure a loan for Mcatee then that will soften the blow. Continue with the bargain basement policy whilst there is money in the bank and we'll know we've raised the white flag before the seasons kicked off.

 

[T-Blade]

If that is correct that Gyokeres has gone for 24 million with a year left on his contract then Ndiaye should not be sold for a penny less than 30 I.M.O

Marseille haven’t got nowhere near the financial power of Sporting though so we won’t be getting £30 million from then that’s for sure. If he forces the move though and is unhappy and we get an offer of £20 million do you take it and use that money to bring someone in who actually wants to play for the club or do you stick with a sulking player for the season who’s heart really isn’t in it and is counting down the days until his contract is done.

 

[ATL Recs]

Not seeing him play in the Prem for us would rank among the most disappointing experiences of my time as a Blade.

Here here

 

[William Carey]

I think what’s key here is Ndiaye said he WANTS the move. If we deny him the opportunity by refusing any offer that OM offer us then ultimately Ndiaye will be unhappy playing in the red and white. Let him go where he’s happy and where he can excel, just give us 20 million in return.

 

[DronnieBlade]

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuck!

UTB

 

[jt64]

You do not simply replace the only thing that is remotely close to a genuine attacking threat at Premier League level for 20 million. We have no midfield post-Berge, a hole at left defence so wide you can drive a bus through it and our next best options up top are "always injured" Brewster, "not ready" Jebbison and "just shit" McBurnie. If we sell for anything less than eight figures more than our record fee received this instantly goes down as our worst bit of business in club history

 

[ReeceofBDTBL]

It’s not even so much about the chances of staying up, I’m more just gutted that we won’t get to see him play in the prem for us.

I’ll always look back with regret that we never got to see Michael Brown play that all action midfielder role for us in the prem, this will be that x1000

 

[71Blade]

Lol haha yeah I meant the official pre-contract discussions with which you're only allowed to do once player is in final 6 months of contact.

Not the unofficial discussions behind a clubs back between player and agent which is strictly forbidden but every club does anyway

If he wasn't here last season we don't get promoted simples he is a generational talent one that won't be seen for a very long time in a red and white shirt.. he is and was out only slim chance of survival.. look at his showreel on you tube from last season. Insane what he can do .. but never mind Fleck and Osborn will see us over the line .. FFS

 

[Rodley]

As I said in SB, there’s no rationalising selling your best player on the eve of the PL season following promotion. It’s depressing we’ve become completely accustomed to this crap again and again.

We just can’t seem to break through the glass ceiling. Depressing.

The Prince needs to reduce his asking price and sell up now.