Disgusting behaviour from Blades fans tonight

[BladeByChoice]

Is it really so difficult to understand.

Get as pissed as you like, but don’t go falling into, pukeing over other people.

Stand on the concourse in circles and sing as loud as you want, but don’t go chucking beer over people who don’t want to go home wet and stinking.

When we score, go absolutely bat shit mental, but do it standing in front of you own seat.

If you’re up for a scrap, sort it out with the other fans and meet up away from the ground (under Tinsley viaduct is a good place) and kick the shit out of each other away from fans who just want to see a game of football.

And the most reasonable request of all, if you don’t observe the minutes silence on poppy day and show respect to those who gave their lives for you to have the freedom to do the above. Die you dog shit scummy cunt.

 

[Blad]

Nobodies saying that. You'll have to read the thread.

I have read it maybe you go back and read it, just one post I have read that springs to mind just a few pages back is from someone who was left shaking his head at the loutish behaviour at various train stations at Blackburn away.

I put it to you your honour that this was Blades enjoying themselves on the train, singing, maybe a bit too boisterous for the poster in question and he maybe wants a quiet life with football fans, not how it is I'm afraid. I also put it to you that he is lying, making it up, not content with saying Blades were loutish on the train, in Blackburn station, oh no they were loutish at "various stations" sounds so much better. We must have fans who vacate the train at various places along the journey, group of fans who must live in the various towns along the journey, these fans were all "loutish" would you believe, what are the chances eh..... Lies your honour, lies from a lying bastard your honour, rest my case..

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

I have read it maybe you go back and read it, just one post I have read that springs to mind just a few pages back is from someone who was left shaking his head at the loutish behaviour at various train stations at Blackburn away.

I put it to you your honour that this was Blades enjoying themselves on the train, singing, maybe a bit too boisterous for the poster in question and he maybe wants a quiet life with football fans, not how it is I'm afraid. I also put it to you that he is lying, making it up, not content with saying Blades were loutish on the train, in Blackburn station, oh no they were loutish at "various stations" sounds so much better. We must have fans who vacate the train at various places along the journey, group of fans who must live in the various towns along the journey, these fans were all "loutish" would you believe, what are the chances eh..... Lies your honour, lies from a lying bastard your honour, rest my case..

This thread is about blades attacking other blades.
If people want to scrap, go and do it with other people who do. I don't give a fuck who they are then.

This thread isn't about drinking, or letting off steam.

It is about cunts attacking people

Can't explain any simpler.

 

[Paisley Blade]

Obviously someone kicking someone in the head are scum ffs, I'm talking more about the sweaty wives on here who clearly don't want fans to enjoy themselves, would rather fans turn up sober, sit there quietly with a prawn sandwich and then go home.

Sweaty wives you say?

 

[Blad]

This thread is about blades attacking other blades.
If people want to scrap, go and do it with other people who do. I don't give a fuck who they are then.

This thread isn't about drinking, or letting off steam.

It is about cunts attacking people

Can't explain any simpler.

Yes it is, as my post about loutish behaviour in various stations where no violence took place proves. There is no place for violence whatsoever but there is no place at away games for wet wipes who think blades are loutish and out of order for enjoying themselves even if they do get a bit too boisterous.

Can't explain this any simpler.

 

[raul]

Yes it is, as my post about loutish behaviour in various stations where no violence took place proves. There is no place for violence whatsoever but there is no place at away games for wet wipes who think blades are loutish and out of order for enjoying themselves even if they do get a bit too boisterous.

Can't explain this any simpler.

Who gets to decide what is in or out of order?

 

[Edgar Allan Poo]

Obviously someone kicking someone in the head are scum ffs, I'm talking more about the sweaty wives on here who clearly don't want fans to enjoy themselves, would rather fans turn up sober, sit there quietly with a prawn sandwich and then go home.

Sober. Yes.
Sit down. No.
Quiet. No.
Prawn Sandwich

 

[Paisley Blade]

Who gets to decide what is in or out of order?

Blad The Impaler.

 

[spongebobblade]

Obviously someone kicking someone in the head are scum ffs, I'm talking more about the sweaty wives on here who clearly don't want fans to enjoy themselves, would rather fans turn up sober, sit there quietly with a prawn sandwich and then go home.

Nobody is expecting or asking fans to sit quietly in there seats so let’s not go to the opposite extreme and pretend that’s what people are wanting. The vast majority of us have been young and a bit boisterous at a football match at some point but your missing the point entirely. There is a line that’s crossed regularly now with absolutely no regard for fellow blades fans. Do you think it’s acceptable to be covered in beer/tomato sauce? Be hit or at risk of being hit from flying glass bottles from your own fans? At Blackburn last week once again the aisles were packed with young lads pissed/doped up. A bloke in his early 30s carrying a young lad about 3 or 4 asked to get passed. Nobody moved so he gently tried easing his way through. 1 scummy knobhead objected to this so the dad asked him what he was expected to do? His son needed the toilet. As he turned to continue down the steps said knobhead punched him in the back of the head then laughed with his mates. The sad thing is this type of incident is becoming more common. Boisterous? Bollocks. It’s starting to get out of hand now. At 2.40 there was hardly anyone having a piss in the gents yet there was a queue of young lads to get in the cubicles. Don’t tell me they were all dying for a shit.
In my 40 odd years of following the Blades I’ve seen plenty of boisterous behaviour, antagonising opposition fans and just being cocky twats. I did it myself when I was younger as I’m sure plenty of the older generation did on here. Booze also played a part but other than when frustrations about the team occasionally boiled over I’ve NEVER felt threatened or intimidated by my fellow ‘Blades’ supporters. For some that is happening already and for others like me you can see it deteriorating each away game (within a 50 mile radius…. Knobheads won’t travel any further, it’s too much trouble) So let me ask you, do you think that’s acceptable?

 

[HarryHaslam]

My own personal view is that the power of Remembrance Day and/or Remembrance Sunday is it's sheer simplicity. I believe that simple approach can (for that brief moment) unite the country in reflection. Those born here, those born elsewhere, everyone. What complicates the situation and I believe confuses people, and I'm going to say dilutes the power, is the volume & theatre of the (too) many silences presented to us. Football Clubs doing it in October, with poems, wreaths, marching, one off Poppy shirts, bugles, tifo displays, etc. It's becoming a competition - we're more respectful than you.

The power is the simple act of silence.

Less is More on this one for me I'm afraid.

Good post mate

I'm in my late 60s, served in the forces when I was a pup which I am extremely proud of, wore a Poppy going back as far as I can remember..

I now no longer wear a poppy or make any sort of donation..

I don't donate anymore because it has become about politics, money and not ex servicemen. Big wages are being paid to charity big wigs. The 10 biggest Military Charities including the Royal British Legion have assets of over £1.5 billion and over £280 million in cash reserves just sat there doing nothing while ex service men are homeless, jobless, mental health issues etc etc. The British Legion could solve these problems with their cash reserves alone not to mention the RAF Benevolent fund and the others. Its a scandal and I won't donate again till this changes, it won't change though.

I stopped wearing my poppy because of the poppy police every year and the poppy symbol is now becoming more about British Nationalism than remembering the dead. The poppy season is a new thing but there is blokes in their 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s who will tell you they have always worn a poppy, no they haven't its bullshit, in the 70s,80s,90s you would spot the odd poppy here and there but that's it, then the Gulf war started and one of Tony Blairs ploys to get folk onside was to ramp up everything to do with Remembrance day and supporting the troops with the help of the Daily Mail and The Sun, many will remember this and it helped him get a sympathetic view of the war from the public at the time. This wider media campaign led it to spread into everything including football, I think Chelsea were the first to get involved around 2005 then gradually over the coming years more and more followed, prior to this there was no poppys, silences etc at football.

I am totally with you Less is More and its not a competition, some football clubs seem to think it is, some fans seem to think it is, last week I saw three facebook posts from friends, each staunchly posting a photo of their poppy badge that they would be wearing to the Blades game, morons who were just after Likes nothing more, not one of them had worn a poppy till a decade ago and they are my age.

If you want to wear a poppy then fine, if you don't want to wear a poppy then fine. If anyone does not have that view in my personal opinion is they have an ulterior motive which 99 times out of 100 is due to politics.

I will always observe a silence on Remembrance Day and say a prayer for the great men and women who have fallen but will no longer take part in the circus every year.

 

[spongebobblade]

Is it really so difficult to understand.

Get as pissed as you like, but don’t go falling into, pukeing over other people.

Stand on the concourse in circles and sing as loud as you want, but don’t go chucking beer over people who don’t want to go home wet and stinking.

When we score, go absolutely bat shit mental, but do it standing in front of you own seat.

If you’re up for a scrap, sort it out with the other fans and meet up away from the ground (under Tinsley viaduct is a good place) and kick the shit out of each other away from fans who just want to see a game of football.

And the most reasonable request of all, if you don’t observe the minutes silence on poppy day and show respect to those who gave their lives for you to have the freedom to do the above. Die you dog shit scummy cunt.

Absolutely fuckin bang on

 

[west_yorks_blade]

Absolutely fuckin bang on

So was your reply mate

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

You must be on the wind up right??

"A bit boisterous"

Are you having a fucking laugh. Kicking the fuck out of a fellow Blades fan is far from "a bit boisterous" and if you're condoning that then you're a fucking idiot!

May I suggest “kicking the fuck out of ANYONE is not to be condoned - although perpetrating such upon our chum “Blad” may be the exception that proves the rule

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

Sweaty wives you say?

Well someone’s got to make the prawn sandwiches

 

[Bayingblade]

My own personal view is that the power of Remembrance Day and/or Remembrance Sunday is it's sheer simplicity. I believe that simple approach can (for that brief moment) unite the country in reflection. Those born here, those born elsewhere, everyone. What complicates the situation and I believe confuses people, and I'm going to say dilutes the power, is the volume & theatre of the (too) many silences presented to us. Football Clubs doing it in October, with poems, wreaths, marching, one off Poppy shirts, bugles, tifo displays, etc. It's becoming a competition - we're more respectful than you.

The power is the simple act of silence.

Less is More on this one for me I'm afraid.

I love your sporting and quaffing insights, Phil but am probably diametrically opposed to you politically however, on this point, I agree wholeheartedly.

Keep up the good work.

 

[Hague Blade]

Good post mate

I'm in my late 60s, served in the forces when I was a pup which I am extremely proud of, wore a Poppy going back as far as I can remember..

I now no longer wear a poppy or make any sort of donation..

I don't donate anymore because it has become about politics, money and not ex servicemen. Big wages are being paid to charity big wigs. The 10 biggest Military Charities including the Royal British Legion have assets of over £1.5 billion and over £280 million in cash reserves just sat there doing nothing while ex service men are homeless, jobless, mental health issues etc etc. The British Legion could solve these problems with their cash reserves alone not to mention the RAF Benevolent fund and the others. Its a scandal and I won't donate again till this changes, it won't change though.

I stopped wearing my poppy because of the poppy police every year and the poppy symbol is now becoming more about British Nationalism than remembering the dead. The poppy season is a new thing but there is blokes in their 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s who will tell you they have always worn a poppy, no they haven't its bullshit, in the 70s,80s,90s you would spot the odd poppy here and there but that's it, then the Gulf war started and one of Tony Blairs ploys to get folk onside was to ramp up everything to do with Remembrance day and supporting the troops with the help of the Daily Mail and The Sun, many will remember this and it helped him get a sympathetic view of the war from the public at the time. This wider media campaign led it to spread into everything including football, I think Chelsea were the first to get involved around 2005 then gradually over the coming years more and more followed, prior to this there was no poppys, silences etc at football.

I am totally with you Less is More and its not a competition, some football clubs seem to think it is, some fans seem to think it is, last week I saw three facebook posts from friends, each staunchly posting a photo of their poppy badge that they would be wearing to the Blades game, morons who were just after Likes nothing more, not one of them had worn a poppy till a decade ago and they are my age.

If you want to wear a poppy then fine, if you don't want to wear a poppy then fine. If anyone does not have that view in my personal opinion is they have an ulterior motive which 99 times out of 100 is due to politics.

I will always observe a silence on Remembrance Day and say a prayer for the great men and women who have fallen but will no longer take part in the circus every year.

Superb post. Thank you sir. Remembrance, absolutely, but the rest of it gets more out of hand every year - it’s like War Christmas. Bollocks to that.

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

Good post mate

I'm in my late 60s, served in the forces when I was a pup which I am extremely proud of, wore a Poppy going back as far as I can remember..

I now no longer wear a poppy or make any sort of donation..

I don't donate anymore because it has become about politics, money and not ex servicemen. Big wages are being paid to charity big wigs. The 10 biggest Military Charities including the Royal British Legion have assets of over £1.5 billion and over £280 million in cash reserves just sat there doing nothing while ex service men are homeless, jobless, mental health issues etc etc. The British Legion could solve these problems with their cash reserves alone not to mention the RAF Benevolent fund and the others. Its a scandal and I won't donate again till this changes, it won't change though.

I stopped wearing my poppy because of the poppy police every year and the poppy symbol is now becoming more about British Nationalism than remembering the dead. The poppy season is a new thing but there is blokes in their 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s who will tell you they have always worn a poppy, no they haven't its bullshit, in the 70s,80s,90s you would spot the odd poppy here and there but that's it, then the Gulf war started and one of Tony Blairs ploys to get folk onside was to ramp up everything to do with Remembrance day and supporting the troops with the help of the Daily Mail and The Sun, many will remember this and it helped him get a sympathetic view of the war from the public at the time. This wider media campaign led it to spread into everything including football, I think Chelsea were the first to get involved around 2005 then gradually over the coming years more and more followed, prior to this there was no poppys, silences etc at football.

I am totally with you Less is More and its not a competition, some football clubs seem to think it is, some fans seem to think it is, last week I saw three facebook posts from friends, each staunchly posting a photo of their poppy badge that they would be wearing to the Blades game, morons who were just after Likes nothing more, not one of them had worn a poppy till a decade ago and they are my age.

If you want to wear a poppy then fine, if you don't want to wear a poppy then fine. If anyone does not have that view in my personal opinion is they have an ulterior motive which 99 times out of 100 is due to politics.

I will always observe a silence on Remembrance Day and say a prayer for the great men and women who have fallen but will no longer take part in the circus every year.

Outstanding post
Which I hesitate to sully with an anecdote... but....
In my youth I used to wear [‘woke alert’] a white poppy & I reckon I got more hostility for that than not wearing one at all - then again I did vote for Michael Foot n’all so that may (not) have helped

 

[BladeByChoice]

Good post mate

I'm in my late 60s, served in the forces when I was a pup which I am extremely proud of, wore a Poppy going back as far as I can remember..

I now no longer wear a poppy or make any sort of donation..

I don't donate anymore because it has become about politics, money and not ex servicemen. Big wages are being paid to charity big wigs. The 10 biggest Military Charities including the Royal British Legion have assets of over £1.5 billion and over £280 million in cash reserves just sat there doing nothing while ex service men are homeless, jobless, mental health issues etc etc. The British Legion could solve these problems with their cash reserves alone not to mention the RAF Benevolent fund and the others. Its a scandal and I won't donate again till this changes, it won't change though.

I stopped wearing my poppy because of the poppy police every year and the poppy symbol is now becoming more about British Nationalism than remembering the dead. The poppy season is a new thing but there is blokes in their 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s who will tell you they have always worn a poppy, no they haven't its bullshit, in the 70s,80s,90s you would spot the odd poppy here and there but that's it, then the Gulf war started and one of Tony Blairs ploys to get folk onside was to ramp up everything to do with Remembrance day and supporting the troops with the help of the Daily Mail and The Sun, many will remember this and it helped him get a sympathetic view of the war from the public at the time. This wider media campaign led it to spread into everything including football, I think Chelsea were the first to get involved around 2005 then gradually over the coming years more and more followed, prior to this there was no poppys, silences etc at football.

I am totally with you Less is More and its not a competition, some football clubs seem to think it is, some fans seem to think it is, last week I saw three facebook posts from friends, each staunchly posting a photo of their poppy badge that they would be wearing to the Blades game, morons who were just after Likes nothing more, not one of them had worn a poppy till a decade ago and they are my age.

If you want to wear a poppy then fine, if you don't want to wear a poppy then fine. If anyone does not have that view in my personal opinion is they have an ulterior motive which 99 times out of 100 is due to politics.

I will always observe a silence on Remembrance Day and say a prayer for the great men and women who have fallen but will no longer take part in the circus every year.

For the times when one like just isn't enough .

 

[Wapping Blade]

Superb post. Thank you sir. Remembrance, absolutely, but the rest of it gets more out of hand every year - it’s like War Christmas. Bollocks to that.

“War Christmas” - I’m gonna nick that!

 

[ShockingBadBuy]

Echoing the points made above, about the poignancy of the old minute’s silence on Remembrance Day as against the ‘remembrance season’ we’ve now fallen into, it might be worth noting that supporters attending Utd’s last three games experienced no fewer than three silences, and three last posts, all of them well in advance of the day itself.

The first of these, Gazza Sinclair’s big outing, was on 30th October, no fewer than twelve whole days before the 11th. The third was at Blackburn on 6th November, five days before.

Is part of this due to football’s inflated sense of its own importance these days? We can’t be left to our traditional minute on the 11th, because unless football club stadium announcers mark the day (even a fortnight or so in advance) then the day hasn’t been properly marked?

 

[HD8 Blades]

Is it really so difficult to understand.

Get as pissed as you like, but don’t go falling into, pukeing over other people.

Stand on the concourse in circles and sing as loud as you want, but don’t go chucking beer over people who don’t want to go home wet and stinking.

When we score, go absolutely bat shit mental, but do it standing in front of you own seat.

If you’re up for a scrap, sort it out with the other fans and meet up away from the ground (under Tinsley viaduct is a good place) and kick the shit out of each other away from fans who just want to see a game of football.

And the most reasonable request of all, if you don’t observe the minutes silence on poppy day and show respect to those who gave their lives for you to have the freedom to do the above. Die you dog shit scummy cunt.

Firm but fair

 

[Lane Ender]

Read through this thread in our day 70s/80s we were always sober certainly never did substances but we were always up for it looking for bollocks for likeminded opposing fans we never involved innocent fans and to turn on your own discusts me.

 

[ancientblade]

Echoing the points made above, about the poignancy of the old minute’s silence on Remembrance Day as against the ‘remembrance season’ we’ve now fallen into, it might be worth noting that supporters attending Utd’s last three games experienced no fewer than three silences, and three last posts, all of them well in advance of the day itself.

The first of these, Gazza Sinclair’s big outing, was on 30th October, no fewer than twelve whole days before the 11th. The third was at Blackburn on 6th November, five days before.

Is part of this due to football’s inflated sense of its own importance these days? We can’t be left to our traditional minute on the 11th, because unless football club stadium announcers mark the day (even a fortnight or so in advance) then the day hasn’t been properly marked?

excellent post think your spot on

 

[Numpty's Dusty Ruts.]

Good post mate

I'm in my late 60s, served in the forces when I was a pup which I am extremely proud of, wore a Poppy going back as far as I can remember..

I now no longer wear a poppy or make any sort of donation..

I don't donate anymore because it has become about politics, money and not ex servicemen. Big wages are being paid to charity big wigs. The 10 biggest Military Charities including the Royal British Legion have assets of over £1.5 billion and over £280 million in cash reserves just sat there doing nothing while ex service men are homeless, jobless, mental health issues etc etc. The British Legion could solve these problems with their cash reserves alone not to mention the RAF Benevolent fund and the others. Its a scandal and I won't donate again till this changes, it won't change though.

I stopped wearing my poppy because of the poppy police every year and the poppy symbol is now becoming more about British Nationalism than remembering the dead. The poppy season is a new thing but there is blokes in their 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s who will tell you they have always worn a poppy, no they haven't its bullshit, in the 70s,80s,90s you would spot the odd poppy here and there but that's it, then the Gulf war started and one of Tony Blairs ploys to get folk onside was to ramp up everything to do with Remembrance day and supporting the troops with the help of the Daily Mail and The Sun, many will remember this and it helped him get a sympathetic view of the war from the public at the time. This wider media campaign led it to spread into everything including football, I think Chelsea were the first to get involved around 2005 then gradually over the coming years more and more followed, prior to this there was no poppys, silences etc at football.

I am totally with you Less is More and its not a competition, some football clubs seem to think it is, some fans seem to think it is, last week I saw three facebook posts from friends, each staunchly posting a photo of their poppy badge that they would be wearing to the Blades game, morons who were just after Likes nothing more, not one of them had worn a poppy till a decade ago and they are my age.

If you want to wear a poppy then fine, if you don't want to wear a poppy then fine. If anyone does not have that view in my personal opinion is they have an ulterior motive which 99 times out of 100 is due to politics.

I will always observe a silence on Remembrance Day and say a prayer for the great men and women who have fallen but will no longer take part in the circus every year.

HH, this is a brilliant and very relevant post about something that's been winding me, and I daresay a lot of other people up, for some time. When I was a boy, in the distant 1960's, the poppy thing happened for about a week before Remembrance day. This generally involved old blokes (usually of Great War vintage, like my grandads, great uncles etc.), selling trays of poppies outside random shops like Woolies on the Moor. That was it. It was a very beautiful and quite moving thing. Like Phil said, it was about remembrance, and no-one seemed to have been judged for wearing one or not wearing one. From what I remember most people didn't. Perhaps unlike a lot of people on here I knew blokes who had been in the Great War, and they knew that that war was anything but glorious. My mum's dad, who fought and was gassed and shell-shocked on the Somme, never talked about it, and it had a profound effect on him (and his wife and kids) for the rest of his life. We think now he had PTSD, but it wasn't recognised then.
From the more innocent and low-key 1960's, poppy wearing has become a political/nationalist symbol, the complete opposite of what it should be about. Like you HH, I have worn a poppy in the past, but no longer do as it's become "loaded", and remembrance shouldn't be about who's wearing one and who isn't, let alone who's got the blingiest poppy. Like having them sewn into football shirts, I think it's tacky and disrespectful.
I hope your time in the forces was good for you and that it's left you with fewer scars, emotional and otherwise, than my poor old grandad.
Much respect to you as an ex-serviceman coming on here and giving your views.

UTB!!

 

[Blade.com]

Echoing the points made above, about the poignancy of the old minute’s silence on Remembrance Day as against the ‘remembrance season’ we’ve now fallen into, it might be worth noting that supporters attending Utd’s last three games experienced no fewer than three silences, and three last posts, all of them well in advance of the day itself.

The first of these, Gazza Sinclair’s big outing, was on 30th October, no fewer than twelve whole days before the 11th. The third was at Blackburn on 6th November, five days before.

Is part of this due to football’s inflated sense of its own importance these days? We can’t be left to our traditional minute on the 11th, because unless football club stadium announcers mark the day (even a fortnight or so in advance) then the day hasn’t been properly marked?

Sorry you and all the other fans have had to experience 3 one minutes silences, must be a bit of a ball ache having to keep quite for the minute. Gary Sinclair did say ; " The last time we will be at home before the 11th". One would assume if we where at home today it would have been today and not 12 days before. Each football club who choose to mark Rememberance day can only do it as they see fit and as near to the 11th as possible. Again sorry if you see it as a competition between clubs and as a sign of their self importance.
Wearing a poppy as like everything in this country is a personal choice, and rightly so, but the main point of the 11th is the message; " Lest we forget" and if we ever do I personally don't think we will be commemorating WW3. All this is only my opinion by the way.

 

[Blad]

Sorry you and all the other fans have had to experience 3 one minutes silences, must be a bit of a ball ache having to keep quite for the minute. Gary Sinclair did say ; " The last time we will be at home before the 11th". One would assume if we where at home today it would have been today and not 12 days before. Each football club who choose to mark Rememberance day can only do it as they see fit and as near to the 11th as possible. Again sorry if you see it as a competition between clubs and as a sign of their self importance.
Wearing a poppy as like everything in this country is a personal choice, and rightly so, but the main point of the 11th is the message; " Lest we forget" and if we ever do I personally don't think we will be commemorating WW3. All this is only my opinion by the way.

“the main point of the 11th” there you said it in a nutshell, the 11th, that’s when the silence should be and no one is talking about forgetting it ffs, we need to go back to the 11th and not weeks before, War Christmas as someone perfectly put it is out of control.

Wearing one is a personal choice and rightly so? Away and throw shite at the moon, you tell the sports people, celebrities who dare go on tv without one at war Christmas time, hounded on social media where some have had to leave. I forget who it was now but one celebrity said there was someone back stage on the Graham Norton show with a box of poppys for all the guests, he said he didn’t want to wear one and they told him he was being removed from the programme if he didn’t. Yeh me and you can choose but don’t think for one single minute people in the public eye and on tv can choose.

 

[Numpty's Dusty Ruts.]

“the main point of the 11th” there you said it in a nutshell, the 11th, that’s when the silence should be and no one is talking about forgetting it ffs, we need to go back to the 11th and not weeks before, War Christmas as someone perfectly put it is out of control.

Wearing one is a personal choice and rightly so? Away and throw shite at the moon, you tell the sports people, celebrities who dare go on tv without one at war Christmas time, hounded on social media where some have had to leave. I forget who it was now but one celebrity said there was someone back stage on the Graham Norton show with a box of poppys for all the guests, he said he didn’t want to wear one and they told him he was being removed from the programme if he didn’t. Yeh me and you can choose but don’t think for one single minute people in the public eye and on tv can choose.

I don't always agree with you Blad, but you've got it spot on with this one!

 

[JohnDenver]

Echoing the points made above, about the poignancy of the old minute’s silence on Remembrance Day as against the ‘remembrance season’ we’ve now fallen into, it might be worth noting that supporters attending Utd’s last three games experienced no fewer than three silences, and three last posts, all of them well in advance of the day itself.

The first of these, Gazza Sinclair’s big outing, was on 30th October, no fewer than twelve whole days before the 11th. The third was at Blackburn on 6th November, five days before.

Is part of this due to football’s inflated sense of its own importance these days? We can’t be left to our traditional minute on the 11th, because unless football club stadium announcers mark the day (even a fortnight or so in advance) then the day hasn’t been properly marked?

If football is the new religion then Garyoke is our priest.

When there's no game adjacent to remembrance Sunday then why not push the fundraising side? Poppies have always been on sale in the weeks before, and helping that would seem more valuable (monetarily and otherwise), than having fans mark the same event three times over.

 

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Nobody is expecting or asking fans to sit quietly in there seats so let’s not go to the opposite extreme and pretend that’s what people are wanting. The vast majority of us have been young and a bit boisterous at a football match at some point but your missing the point entirely. There is a line that’s crossed regularly now with absolutely no regard for fellow blades fans. Do you think it’s acceptable to be covered in beer/tomato sauce? Be hit or at risk of being hit from flying glass bottles from your own fans? At Blackburn last week once again the aisles were packed with young lads pissed/doped up. A bloke in his early 30s carrying a young lad about 3 or 4 asked to get passed. Nobody moved so he gently tried easing his way through. 1 scummy knobhead objected to this so the dad asked him what he was expected to do? His son needed the toilet. As he turned to continue down the steps said knobhead punched him in the back of the head then laughed with his mates. The sad thing is this type of incident is becoming more common. Boisterous? Bollocks. It’s starting to get out of hand now. At 2.40 there was hardly anyone having a piss in the gents yet there was a queue of young lads to get in the cubicles. Don’t tell me they were all dying for a shit.
In my 40 odd years of following the Blades I’ve seen plenty of boisterous behaviour, antagonising opposition fans and just being cocky twats. I did it myself when I was younger as I’m sure plenty of the older generation did on here. Booze also played a part but other than when frustrations about the team occasionally boiled over I’ve NEVER felt threatened or intimidated by my fellow ‘Blades’ supporters. For some that is happening already and for others like me you can see it deteriorating each away game (within a 50 mile radius…. Knobheads won’t travel any further, it’s too much trouble) So let me ask you, do you think that’s acceptable?

Great post

 

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HH, this is a brilliant and very relevant post about something that's been winding me, and I daresay a lot of other people up, for some time. When I was a boy, in the distant 1960's, the poppy thing happened for about a week before Remembrance day. This generally involved old blokes (usually of Great War vintage, like my grandads, great uncles etc.), selling trays of poppies outside random shops like Woolies on the Moor. That was it. It was a very beautiful and quite moving thing. Like Phil said, it was about remembrance, and no-one seemed to have been judged for wearing one or not wearing one. From what I remember most people didn't. Perhaps unlike a lot of people on here I knew blokes who had been in the Great War, and they knew that that war was anything but glorious. My mum's dad, who fought and was gassed and shell-shocked on the Somme, never talked about it, and it had a profound effect on him (and his wife and kids) for the rest of his life. We think now he had PTSD, but it wasn't recognised then.
From the more innocent and low-key 1960's, poppy wearing has become a political/nationalist symbol, the complete opposite of what it should be about. Like you HH, I have worn a poppy in the past, but no longer do as it's become "loaded", and remembrance shouldn't be about who's wearing one and who isn't, let alone who's got the blingiest poppy. Like having them sewn into football shirts, I think it's tacky and disrespectful.
I hope your time in the forces was good for you and that it's left you with fewer scars, emotional and otherwise, than my poor old grandad.
Much respect to you as an ex-serviceman coming on here and giving your views.

UTB!!

(Another) Outstanding post