Disgusting behaviour from Blades fans tonight

[Jon B]

I remember watching the surviving "Old Contemptibles" marching past the Cenotaph in the 1960s.

My Grandad on my Mum's side was also a gas casualty in the trenches. Fortunately, burns from contact with mustard gas soaked sandbags rather than inhaled.

He never talked about his experiences in his Northumberland Pals Battalion.

I once asked him what it was like in the trenches. His short response "You'd never believe it". That was all he said. Or wanted to say.

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

Sorry you and all the other fans have had to experience 3 one minutes silences, must be a bit of a ball ache having to keep quite for the minute. Gary Sinclair did say ; " The last time we will be at home before the 11th". One would assume if we where at home today it would have been today and not 12 days before. Each football club who choose to mark Rememberance day can only do it as they see fit and as near to the 11th as possible. Again sorry if you see it as a competition between clubs and as a sign of their self importance.
Wearing a poppy as like everything in this country is a personal choice, and rightly so, but the main point of the 11th is the message; " Lest we forget" and if we ever do I personally don't think we will be commemorating WW3. All this is only my opinion by the way.

Done five now. The one at The Lane in August (or whenever it was), Forest away, Blackburn away, Albania at Wembley & Australia at Twickenham this afts. (Oh & the 11th with no "theatre").
Might look up what the record is and see how I'm placed.

 

[Davalon]

Done five now. The one at The Lane in August (or whenever it was), Forest away, Blackburn away, Albania at Wembley & Australia at Twickenham this afts. (Oh & the 11th with no "theatre").
Might look up what the record is and see how I'm placed.

Must have been awful for you.

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

Must have been awful for you.

Mate, I'm allowed to keep count ... surely?

 

[Blade.com]

Done five now. The one at The Lane in August (or whenever it was), Forest away, Blackburn away, Albania at Wembley & Australia at Twickenham this afts. (Oh & the 11th with no "theatre").
Might look up what the record is and see how I'm placed.

Good lad/lass. But almost 100 million deaths and casualties world wide in two Wars , surely a bit of theatre doesn’t hurt anyone ?. Yes , would imagine paying your respects six times will be well up there with the best and not knowing you personally would imagine it was impeccably observed.
PS, lad/lass, use to work for years with a lovely lady and always went by Phil , Covered myself.

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

Good lad/lass. But almost 100 million deaths and casualties world wide in two Wars , surely a bit of theatre doesn’t hurt anyone ?. Yes , would imagine paying your respects six times will be well up there with the best and not knowing you personally would imagine it was impeccably observed.
PS, lad/lass, use to work for years with a lovely lady and always went by Phil , Covered myself.

I've said my piece. The theatre detracts from the incredibly powerful nation coming together moment of silence & reflection. For eg, people want to video it on their phones rather than reflect. They want to video it on their phones because of all the cogs & moving parts in the distracting theatre. People next to me at Twickenham had no idea what was going on. Pointing to this distraction, discussing this other distraction, ooohhhing at this other thing over in that corner. By the time the "minutes silence' had ended, they didn't even know it had started. And, the large, marvellously boisterous, loud and proud, we're here and we're having it Albanian Firm had no idea what was going on, why should they?

Announcement, start on whistle, silence, whistle - we have remembered them. Much better.

(btw aside) I used to play Last Post in church on Remembrance Sunday (bugle version of course, not all that fiddly diddly theatre shit on the cornet).

 

[SouthStandGBlock]

Done five now. The one at The Lane in August (or whenever it was), Forest away, Blackburn away, Albania at Wembley & Australia at Twickenham this afts. (Oh & the 11th with no "theatre").
Might look up what the record is and see how I'm placed.

I don't think there was one at Forest away as they were playing Preston on Saturday the 6th so they'd have done it then I think.

Just 4 then.

 

[SouthStandGBlock]

I was at Tigers v Sale yesterday, and the minutes silence was exactly that. 15,000 people and absolute silence. Perfect.

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

I don't think there was one at Forest away as they were playing Preston on Saturday the 6th so they'd have done it then I think.

Just 4 then.

Damn, I never like to lose a Tick

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

“the main point of the 11th” there you said it in a nutshell, the 11th, that’s when the silence should be and no one is talking about forgetting it ffs, we need to go back to the 11th and not weeks before, War Christmas as someone perfectly put it is out of control.

Wearing one is a personal choice and rightly so? Away and throw shite at the moon, you tell the sports people, celebrities who dare go on tv without one at war Christmas time, hounded on social media where some have had to leave. I forget who it was now but one celebrity said there was someone back stage on the Graham Norton show with a box of poppys for all the guests, he said he didn’t want to wear one and they told him he was being removed from the programme if he didn’t. Yeh me and you can choose but don’t think for one single minute people in the public eye and on tv can choose.

Have a like (from an unexpected source), but.....
Just wondering if we should commemorate folk injured by the “ bit boisterous” “lads letting off steam”
Wear a crushed poppy perhaps

 

[Gerritforud]

 

[Nonamedhorse]

Went to a remembrance service this morning. Kidney punched the bugle player, job done.

 

[Bladeloyal]

Who gets to decide what is in or out of order?

The f. ING out of order police (s24su)

 

[Bladeloyal]

Done five now. The one at The Lane in August (or whenever it was), Forest away, Blackburn away, Albania at Wembley & Australia at Twickenham this afts. (Oh & the 11th with no "theatre").
Might look up what the record is and see how I'm placed.

Your placed in the silent top one

 

[HillmortonBlade]

HH, this is a brilliant and very relevant post about something that's been winding me, and I daresay a lot of other people up, for some time. When I was a boy, in the distant 1960's, the poppy thing happened for about a week before Remembrance day. This generally involved old blokes (usually of Great War vintage, like my grandads, great uncles etc.), selling trays of poppies outside random shops like Woolies on the Moor. That was it. It was a very beautiful and quite moving thing. Like Phil said, it was about remembrance, and no-one seemed to have been judged for wearing one or not wearing one. From what I remember most people didn't. Perhaps unlike a lot of people on here I knew blokes who had been in the Great War, and they knew that that war was anything but glorious. My mum's dad, who fought and was gassed and shell-shocked on the Somme, never talked about it, and it had a profound effect on him (and his wife and kids) for the rest of his life. We think now he had PTSD, but it wasn't recognised then.
From the more innocent and low-key 1960's, poppy wearing has become a political/nationalist symbol, the complete opposite of what it should be about. Like you HH, I have worn a poppy in the past, but no longer do as it's become "loaded", and remembrance shouldn't be about who's wearing one and who isn't, let alone who's got the blingiest poppy. Like having them sewn into football shirts, I think it's tacky and disrespectful.
I hope your time in the forces was good for you and that it's left you with fewer scars, emotional and otherwise, than my poor old grandad.
Much respect to you as an ex-serviceman coming on here and giving your views.

UTB!!

The Glorious Dead all have one thing in common. Death before their time.

I have posted in the past about the disrespect shown by some in failing to wear a poppy. I’ve changed my opinion, and football clubs cringeworthy promotion of grief culture has played a big part in it (along with a recognition of the political appropriation). I’m with Ball_Sup (Phil) in terms of the sheer number of moments of remembrance undertaken. Each one may be sincerely meant, but the sheer volume clearly dilutes the purpose.

 

[Bell4]

Went to a remembrance service this morning. Kidney punched the bugle player, job done.

Thats awful !

Why did you do that ?

People like you who give us proper behaved Blades a bad name

 

[Bladeloyal]

Thats awful !

Why did you do that ?

People like you who give us proper behaved Blades a bad name

Did you hear the bugle player ,couldn't hit a note

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

Did you hear the bugle player ,couldn't hit a note

Probably because you’d just ruptured his kidney

 

[Bladeloyal]

Probably because you’d just ruptured his kidney

 

[Bladeloyal]

Probably because you’d just ruptured his kidney

That was only after letting his wheelchair tyres down and pinching his hearing aids .

 

[Bell4]

That was only after letting his wheelchair tyres down and pinching his hearing aids .

This just gets worse - unbelievable

 

[Blad]

Amazing turn out today in Barkers Pool at the Cenotaph, how it should be.

99.9999999% of the online, social media gimps who bang on and on about a poppy will have never been to the Cenotaph on memorial Sunday to pay there respects. Well done to everyone that could be bothered, to those that do bang on about a poppy and couldn’t be arsed going today your point of view is void, shut the fuck up ya weird poppy bastards.

 

[Cheesebored]

Well done to everyone that could be bothered, to those that do bang on about a poppy and couldn’t be arsed going today your point of view is void, shut the fuck up ya weird poppy bastards.

 

[Upton_Blade]

Read through this thread in our day 70s/80s we were always sober certainly never did substances but we were always up for it looking for bollocks for likeminded opposing fans we never involved innocent fans and to turn on your own discusts me.

This is exactly it LE. Trouble at football has always been there but it was always with likeminded people from opposing teams and generally away from the ground.

I worked on the doors in Derby in the late 90's (whilst at Uni) with most their top boys and I can absolutely guarantee there is no way on earth any of them would act like these little muppets that follow teams away from home do nowadays.

People can slate the BBC all they like for some of their activities but they wouldn't have acted liked these little pricks in the ground. Ever!

 

[Lane Ender]

This is exactly it LE. Trouble at football has always been there but it was always with likeminded people from opposing teams and generally away from the ground.

I worked on the doors in Derby in the late 90's (whilst at Uni) with most their top boys and I can absolutely guarantee there is no way on earth any of them would act like these little muppets that follow teams away from home do nowadays.

People can slate the BBC all they like for some of their activities but they wouldn't have acted liked these little pricks in the ground. Ever!

100% it would be embarrassing

 

[Blade for Sale]

The Glorious Dead all have one thing in common. Death before their time.

I have posted in the past about the disrespect shown by some in failing to wear a poppy. I’ve changed my opinion, and football clubs cringeworthy promotion of grief culture has played a big part in it (along with a recognition of the political appropriation). I’m with Ball_Sup (Phil) in terms of the sheer number of moments of remembrance undertaken. Each one may be sincerely meant, but the sheer volume clearly dilutes the purpose.

Last year's remembrance day saw me at Jump Ninja, a massive kids play area filled with inflatables, trampolines and sugar loaded children. They genuinely tried to bring 300 kids to a halt for 2 mins at 11.00. You may as well have tried to stop a herd of stampeding wildebeest with a small fishing net.

 

[Moan? Nope-I saw Longhorn]

That was only after letting his wheelchair tyres down and pinching his hearing aids .

Ah I see - He was /is a Norwich fan?
I assume you also garrotted him with a rainbow scarf

 

[Freddie]

Went to a remembrance service this morning. Kidney punched the bugle player, job done.

Kidney punch

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

Forgive me if this has been posted elsewhere. I did look & I couldn't find it. When Bogle scored at Reading, a smoke bomb was thrown from our fans into our disabled fans section. Causing some chaos & distress. I was on the same row, but across the aisle from where it landed. Story doing the rounds here....

 

[FMBlade1]

Clubs should actually hire proper bouncers as stewards/security and pay them appropriately to do their job, rather than puny 18 year old students on minimum wage.