We got Burke for fuck all

[BushBlade]

I've had my drunken outburst on this player, and I can see one positive...

If I was training burke I'd have him constantly running to a line on the pitch then crossing the ball at pace, whipping one in... I'd have him doing that for as long as it took till he got it, I wouldn't allow him to do anything else in training, till he got some proficiency. He needs to break and whip one in....

Then we need brewster to learn to arrive in the box and hit the target.. Which I'm sure he can do, if the ball can be put there for him to run onto..

Whilst this isn't the answer to all our teething trouble, it'd be a start..

I was thinking that as I wrote my post. You can coach him to do that, he can practice that, it’s easy to understand.

 

[Tezza1889]

I was thinking that as I wrote my post. You can coach him to do that, he can practice that, it’s easy to understand.

I'll try to be positive as best I can, but my mate said if he could wrap the foot round the ball and cross into the box at his pace he'd be playing for man utd. A joke I know, but I bet that's why he's gone before for good money, that potential...

Pace on the ball, whipped in early (remember that) instead of trying to play through defences, which is what we've done recently and why the goals dried up*..

* premier league defences didn't help either.

 

[Keen Blade]

I don't think we got Burke for free: if I remember correctly, we swapped him for Callum Robinson.

Based on WBA's game the other night, that decision may prove to be very costly. They have a fantastic championship player, we have a sprinter with seemingly no footballing ability

Calum Robinson scored for WBA + is nailed on to star and help get them promoted
the decision to swap him for Burke is another Wilder fuck-up legacy which will be very difficult to overcome , along with Brewster's Millions , Biscuit-body Mousset , and McKnob.
No wonder a couple of Old-Age Pensioners get on the pitch.
We are the kind of club that can't spot Jebbo's potential is far & away above the whole shitpile of strikers , so we're trying to loan him out - fuck me , it's like our management have never watched us play.
And please don't get me started on the coasters we have in midfield , enjoying a nice contract till it peters out.

 

[Keen Blade]

W

We paid £18m plus £7 in possible add ons (which we'll never reach),hes still only very young,and played with a lot more aggression and confidence when he come on.
The lad will be different again when he gets his first goal.

Why will he ?

 

[BushBlade]

I'll try to be positive as best I can, but my mate said if he could wrap the foot round the ball and cross into the box at his pace he'd be playing for man utd. A joke I know, but I bet that's why he's gone before for good money, that potential...

Pace on the ball, whipped in early (remember that) instead of trying to play through defences, which is what we've done recently and why the goals dried up*..

* premier league defences didn't help either.

Defenders hate it. They hate running back towards their goal and it can drag central defenders out of position. We need players breaking into the box though. It’s like our midfield are so scared of exposing our defence they won’t gamble on a player hitting an early cross. I think they’re too used to our players holding it up in the corners, then passing it back and switching the play to the other side, looking to pull defenders out of position and create an opening and expecting our centre halves to make runs.

We started on Saturday with four at the back but seemed to play like we had five and expected them to make forward runs. There were big Basham and JOC shaped gaps when we attacked. I think we needed a decent preseason to undo the coaching and drills they did under CWAK for us to play how Slav wants to play.

I’m a bit disappointed about that because the noises coming from the club were that we were looking for a manager who could work with the existing squad and not change too much. I think the term was evolution not revolution. We’ve had the opposite. I’d have been happier to see 3412. I thought we wanted some continuity, someone to come in and do a job, not a “project”. Just get us promoted FFS.

 

[Keen Blade]

He really needs to look up more. He just looks like he’s trying to avoid treading in dog shit with his head down all the time when he’s got the ball. Plus, try to control the ball with his feet, thigh etc not his shins and knees.

I have to assume that coaches have been banging that into his thick skull for years - it ain't worked + it ain't gonna work - he's the finished article + it's defective.

 

[Keen Blade]

I was thinking that as I wrote my post. You can coach him to do that, he can practice that, it’s easy to understand.

Sorry , he's far too stupid for that - you think he's never been told that before ?

 

[Tezza1889]

Defenders hate it. They hate running back towards their goal and it can drag central defenders out of position. We need players breaking into the box though. It’s like our midfield are so scared of exposing our defence they won’t gamble on a player hitting an early cross. I think they’re too used to our players holding it up in the corners, then passing it back and switching the play to the other side, looking to pull defenders out of position and create an opening and expecting our centre halves to make runs.

We started on Saturday with four at the back but seemed to play like we had five and expected them to make forward runs. There were big Basham and JOC shaped gaps when we attacked. I think we needed a decent preseason to undo the coaching and drills they did under CWAK for us to play how Slav wants to play.

I’m a bit disappointed about that because the noises coming from the club were that we were looking for a manager who could work with the existing squad and not change too much. I think the term was evolution not revolution. We’ve had the opposite. I’d have been happier to see 3412. I thought we wanted some continuity, someone to come in and do a job, not a “project”. Just get us promoted FFS.

One of the best replies I've ever read on here.... I know others see things differently, but me and you are exactly on the same page...

I'd have paired jebbeson and brewster for the season and given defences something to worry about, 2 young lads with the world at thier feet..

I'd have sent them out to make a name for themselves..

 

[Tezza1889]

Sorry , he's far too stupid for that - you think he's never been told that before ?

He will have been, but I wouldn't let him near the first team without the basic expectation if you're a winger as everybody says... And that is the ability to cross... Its basic stuff..

If it's his job to cross and he can't do it, he shouldn't play...

If you were a bus driver who couldn't drive a bus.....

 

[Keen Blade]

This, he is a winger, not a forward, used right I have no reservations he would be very good for us

Alan Woodward was a winger mate , I watched him in the 60s & 70s , he could pass , cross , shoot , score & EVEN PUT IN A ROCKET CORNER WITH A HEAVY OLD LEATHER BALL.
NONE of this squad comes close to ANY of Woody's attributes.
Our midfield + forwards are unalloyed SHITE.
Put that in your apologist pipe + smoke it

 

[bypassblade]

And boy don't we know it

 

[I should coco]

Calum Robinson scored for WBA + is nailed on to star and help get them promoted
the decision to swap him for Burke is another Wilder fuck-up legacy which will be very difficult to overcome , along with Brewster's Millions , Biscuit-body Mousset , and McKnob.

I couldn't disagree more.

Apart from a 10 minute spell at Stamford Bridge, CR never did it for us.

Mentally he looked weak, he couldn't tackle and his tracking back and general teamwork, was poor at best. Maybe we didn't let him have the same roving role he had at PNE, but he definitely wasn't working for us. CW simply tried to cut his losses.

Chucking Brewster, Mousse and McBurnie (McKnob - tee hee hee) into the pot, is just another excuse to put the boot into CW. The latter two helped keep us up in 19/20, but somehow that doesn't 'count' any more when people want a pop at Wilder.

 

[Tezza1889]

I couldn't disagree more.

Apart from a 10 minute spell at Stamford Bridge, CR never did it for us.

Mentally he looked weak, he couldn't tackle and his tracking back and general teamwork, was poor at best. Maybe we didn't let him have the same roving role he had at PNE, but he definitely wasn't working for us. CW simply tried to cut his losses.

Chucking Brewster, Mousse and McBurnie (McKnob - tee hee hee) into the pot, is just another excuse to put the boot into CW. The latter two helped keep us up in 19/20, but somehow that doesn't 'count' any more when people want a pop at Wilder.

Without dragging other players into it..

I'm not sure looking back that anybody would say it was a good move swapping Robinson for Burke....

Think the personality of Robinson was another issue for CW.. He may have ended up our top scorer... We were so bad...

 

[Revolution]

I couldn't disagree more.

Apart from a 10 minute spell at Stamford Bridge, CR never did it for us.

Mentally he looked weak, he couldn't tackle and his tracking back and general teamwork, was poor at best. Maybe we didn't let him have the same roving role he had at PNE, but he definitely wasn't working for us. CW simply tried to cut his losses.

Chucking Brewster, Mousse and McBurnie (McKnob - tee hee hee) into the pot, is just another excuse to put the boot into CW. The latter two helped keep us up in 19/20, but somehow that doesn't 'count' any more when people want a pop at Wilder.

My problem with that transfer is that we should have demanded a full fee for Robinson, rather than take a cast off in part exchange.

 

[BushBlade]

One of the best replies I've ever read on here.... I know others see things differently, but me and you are exactly on the same page...

I'd have paired jebbeson and brewster for the season and given defences something to worry about, 2 young lads with the world at thier feet..

I'd have sent them out to make a name for themselves..

I’d have stuck to 3412 and had Freeman behind Didsy and Brewster (as I don’t think Sharp or McB were fit enough for 90 minutes) but tell Didsy to stay further forward when we’re in possession and try to create space by drifting wider, get between their centre half and fullback. I think it’s a bit early for Jebbo. We’ve got too many strikers to have to rely on a kid who only made his debut a couple of months ago. I’d rather see him on loan in L1, playing every game and learning his trade. Obviously that’s without knowing him and how mentally strong he is, I’d have to ask the opinion of Heck etc.

 

[Tezza1889]

I’d have stuck to 3412 and had Freeman behind Didsy and Brewster (as I don’t think Sharp or McB were fit enough for 90 minutes) but tell Didsy to stay further forward when we’re in possession and try to create space by drifting wider, get between their centre half and fullback. I think it’s a bit early for Jebbo. We’ve got too many strikers to have to rely on a kid who only made his debut a couple of months ago. I’d rather see him on loan in L1, playing every game and learning his trade. Obviously that’s without knowing him and how mentally strong he is, I’d have to ask the opinion of Heck etc.

Yeah I hear that loud n clear on jebbs.. I look more at it as he's an unknown quantity, unlike didsy who every team know inside and out (not a dig at him of course) there's a lot of discussion about wanting it, I just thought that if you were a defender facing 2 pretty much unknown quantities, with pace, skill, and a hunger for the game, you wouldn't fancy it..

What if they click and form a proper "forward" partnership.....

I'm from the "good enough / old enough" school..

 

[Booker4]

i love how football fans focus on one player to give out their wrath on, of late it's Burke, McBurnie cops a lot also. There's constructive criticism and yes we're all entitled to our view, but for me Burke isn't ever going to work as part of a front two he needs to play on the wing as a winger or wide forward, preferably the former, and we'll see him cause problems. He's never going to provide 10 goals and ten assists like people expect for a variety of factors such as aforementioned position, lack of game time, and yes he lacks the consistency to do it week in week out. But he can be a valuable squad player, some weeks he'll start, others he'll come off the bench but he'll play his part. I think we could all refrain from criticising the performance too harshly on Saturday night, yes it was dog turd, but with lack of pre-season/game time and a new manager with new system this is not surprising against surprisingly good opposition.

Back to Burke, give him time and after ten games he's not doing it then I think criticism is more valid, but he was far from the worst player on Saturday night.

 

[FallowfieldBlade]

Don’t get the hate that Burke gets he’s a decent player and that effort where he hit the post was nearly a great finish once again we have a player where we don’t play to his strengths which is probably out wide as a winger instead of a no9

People just expect every player to bang in 30 goals and if they don’t they get John lunstrammed

He’s a decent player and needs a solid run in the team like mcburnie/Brewster

 

[Torrix1889]

Burke was in no way our worst player on Saturday, he was the only one, (apart from the odd flash from sicknote) who looked as tough he could trouble their backline.....which says a lot about our squad really....

He is all right foot though so play him on that side, you could see the difference when he did as he hit the post, rather than trying to cut in from the left and it bobbling out of play off his shins...

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

And we still got robbed. He has absolutely no football brain or ability. Incredibly wank. Not just wank. Incredibly.

Can someone tell me what he’s good at? Running down the channels? Ok, but why bother when every time he just knocks it out of play off his shins.

Another piece of sir Wilder has hamstrung us with.

Before anyone tries to weigh in and tell me he was our best forward, do me a favour eh - fucking jog on.

Can I fuck. More threads about this useless waste of snap the better. Jog on.

And the winner of today's WOAFT Award is ....

 

[BrianBadonde]

And the winner of today's WOAFT Award is ....

Whats a WOAFT? Is it for humans?

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

Whats a WOAFT? Is it for humans?

You're intelligent.

Think about it

 

[BrianBadonde]

You're intelligent.

Think about it

You’re 71, put your balls on the table

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

You’re 71, put your balls on the table

The clues are in the quotes

 

[BrianBadonde]

The clues are in the quotes

Okay, go and watch Dads Army or whatever it is people your age do

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

Okay, go and watch Dads Army or whatever it is people your age do

You don't know me. Thats uncalled for. I was about to tell you but I'll leave you to trip over your bottom lip now

 

[BrianBadonde]

You don't know me. Thats uncalled for. I was about to tell you but I'll leave you to trip over your bottom lip now

Dads army isn’t that bad

 

[Carlton Blade]

We'll have him back.

He's just a dumb lad who needs playing right. He was never a 13m+ player, but he's a perfectly capable Championship player.

For us though he was brilliant as an attacking wide man. Odd to see him used as a more central forward

He played 23 league games for you 6 years ago

 

[Carlton Blade]

I don't hate Burke. He's just got the worst technical ability of any professional footballer I've seen in person

 

[bakeblade]

Because that's the breakdown reported at lfc,who are a bit more open than our club,who seem to like the mystery of 'undisclosed'.