COVID Passport

[Sheffsteel]

Mate. Sorry. I'm talking about going to a football match to support my/your team. If you don't want to, don't go.

I’ve been a season ticket holder for years…of course I want to go but only if it’s like it was before.

If it’s compulsory masks, no singing, massive queues to get in and out due to extra checks, massive queues and arrows to get in the bogs
Also I sit on the Kop where the seats are about 1ft wide…so if they insist on alternate seating to ensure distancing then it’s not football as I remember.
So I won’t be going.

As I said I went to the Great Yorkshire show yesterday and today….it lifted my spirits as it was very close to normal with just a few over 70’s wearing masks.
Our Kop doesn’t have a proper concourse so the whole Kop experience is basically outside….so maybe the Kop will be the same as pre covid.
I expect masks will be required in the toilets and I can live with that.

 

[Bladesman]

I’ve been a season ticket holder for years…of course I want to go but only if it’s like it was before.

If it’s compulsory masks, no singing, massive queues to get in and out due to extra checks, massive queues and arrows to get in the bogs
Also I sit on the Kop where the seats are about 1ft wide…so if they insist on alternate seating to ensure distancing then it’s not football as I remember.
So I won’t be going.

As I said I went to the Great Yorkshire show yesterday and today….it lifted my spirits as it was very close to normal with just a few over 70’s wearing masks.
Our Kop doesn’t have a proper concourse so the whole Kop experience is basically outside….so maybe the Kop will be the same as pre covid.
I expect masks will be required in the toilets and I can live with that.

With the state of the KOP bogs I am surprised a hazmat suits has not been required to enter them.

 

[Greenblades]

i went to Wimbledon last Thursday for the first full day. No drama. I also took my 83 year old mum who has always wanted to go. She was fully vaccinated and also made the point of living life. Made me realise how short life is. Just for the record excess deaths in the last 9 weeks are less than the last 2 years. Time to move on. ! Full lane for me !

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

I’ve been a season ticket holder for years…of course I want to go but only if it’s like it was before.

If it’s compulsory masks, no singing, massive queues to get in and out due to extra checks, massive queues and arrows to get in the bogs
Also I sit on the Kop where the seats are about 1ft wide…so if they insist on alternate seating to ensure distancing then it’s not football as I remember.
So I won’t be going.

As I said I went to the Great Yorkshire show yesterday and today….it lifted my spirits as it was very close to normal with just a few over 70’s wearing masks.
Our Kop doesn’t have a proper concourse so the whole Kop experience is basically outside….so maybe the Kop will be the same as pre covid.
I expect masks will be required in the toilets and I can live with that.

FFS. We're going round in circles here. You're Scaremongering yourself. Repeat. I have been to TEN Large Capacity Sporting Events since the beginning of June.
No compulsory masks
Sing your heart out
Quick extra check to get in
Queues as normal
What the fuck are you worried about arrows to the bogs for?
Full rows of people, sat next to total strangers

Me. Who is writing this post. I've done that TEN Times. You're worrying and moaning about shit that has not been required at all in English sporting grounds. Do not dig yourself in over stupid misunderstandings & rumours.

 

[Rodley]

The issue i have with this is, in my 20s and no health issues; it's (currently) nearly impossible for me to get 2 vaccines by the opening game.
I signed up for a vaccine the day i was given the ability to; but that 8 weeks lands me the week after the first game.
So, after locking down and complying with every rule the government have set out; i'm not allowed to go the match because i am simply too young and healthy.
(That isn't a dig at the government vaccine rollout; which i think does make sense - it is instead a criticism of the supposed plan by the EFL.)

Just wander down on a Friday night, you’ll get jabbed easily.

 

[SotonBlade]

That covid app tracks you. And I don't want anyone knowing I've done the school run and been to asda.

You can turn tracking off

 

[Liaminho9]

Just wander down on a Friday night, you’ll get jabbed easily.

Need a jab in my arm not my kidneys though?

 

[TJB.]

I'll be wearing my mask, at least for the first match.

8pm kick off means a full Saturday's worth of beer and kebab farts erupting from all corners of the Kop. You'd be fucking mad not to.

 

[Le Cynique]

I'll be wearing my mask, at least for the first match.

8pm kick off means a full Saturday's worth of beer and kebab farts erupting from all corners of the Kop. You'd be fucking mad not to.

Full Hazmat suit with an oxygen tank on the back. Might find it hard to siddarn in it though.

 

[Ted Danson]

If a Covid passport is going to be required, then the way forward is for season ticket holders and members to make the ticket office aware that they’ve been double jabbed, so that their ticket can be activated for the full season. It will require day ticket buyers to provide proof at the point of purchase. Then all the stewards need to do is random checks at the turnstiles.

But the NHS article linked at the begging of the thread suggested that they will only give you the pass if youve had Covid in the last 180 days and thats with proper Covid immunity from actually having the virus.

The immunity from the vaccines isnt as good so youd still need to be showing your jab status to the ticket office a few times each season every time you have one of your booster shots.

Best just to scrap the whole crazy idea as these passports make no sense anyway and are completely unethical

 

[Varkanoid]

You can turn tracking off

you can also uninstall the app.

Seriously though it can quickly flair up. Our office is classed as closed (some people still go in without Director approval and they dont social distance too or wear masks!) but our team still needs to go in 3 days a week so we have one person in these 3 days plus another small team we work with consisting of 3 people. There was one other person on the same floor. My colleague tested positive this weekend just gone, the other person tested positive, the small team are all negative but have to isolate, they've closed the office floor (no one else is in) for deep cleaning, test and trace app flagged them all up. Not sure how my colleague got it but imagine if we were all back at work how many on that floor would have caught it.

 

[Eddiecolquhounsleg]

if it’s no hassle like you say….then I’ll take the test and go.
I’m not anti vaccine and may eventually take it if it’s mandatory to go abroad
but I’d rather do it the natural way and risk catching covid again acquire the anti bodies.
I’ve been regular attending gyms for decades, eat healthly, very fit and not been really ill since I was a child.
I work from home and when I had covid over a year ago I was under the weather…coughing…high temperature and weak body
but I continued working as normal….i have a gym at home and I didn’t have the energy to use that for about a month.

Also my brother took an anti malaria jab and died a few weeks later….so I’m slightly anti jabs.

Everyone is individual. I’d rather not take the vaccine…as in my case I’m prepared to take the risk
but if my experiences change or I’m basically forced then I would be prepared to take it.

Just read that Neil Etheridge is in hospital with Covid. I presume that he is young, eats healthily, is fit and has been going to gyms for years. This has not prevented him getting the disease, and not prevented him being hospitalised by it. Just because you are all of the above does not mean you are immune, and, more importantly, have the ability to pass it on to someone who is old, has a poor diet, less fit and hasn't visited a gym for years.

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

But the NHS article linked at the begging of the thread suggested that they will only give you the pass if youve had Covid in the last 180 days and thats with proper Covid immunity from actually having the virus.

The immunity from the vaccines isnt as good so youd still need to be showing your jab status to the ticket office a few times each season every time you have one of your booster shots.

Best just to scrap the whole crazy idea as these passports make no sense anyway and are completely unethical

Covid Passports have been used throughout the Summer at Sporting Events. The EUROs, Wimbledon Tennis, International Cricket, Rugby Internationals
I've been to 31 sporting events since the Step 3 opening on 17 May. Those fall into two categories.

Firstly, those not requiring a Covid Passport. The logic is .... those attending have not had to demonstrate reduced Covid risk, so will have to be in a reduced capacity crowd, with socially distanced seating & masks when moving.

Secondly, those requiring a Covid Passport. The logic is .... those attending have demonstrated reduced Covid risk, so can enjoy full (or near full) capacities, no social distancing & minimal if any masks.

Those events requiring a Covid Passport that I've attended have been far closer to "normal" than the others. Quick check at the turnstile of the Covid Passport. And then a pretty much back to normal sporting experience. Or, I'm a liar.

 

[Addison]

Just read that Neil Etheridge is in hospital with Covid. I presume that he is young, eats healthily, is fit and has been going to gyms for years. This has not prevented him getting the disease, and not prevented him being hospitalised by it. Just because you are all of the above does not mean you are immune, and, more importantly, have the ability to pass it on to someone who is old, has a poor diet, less fit and hasn't visited a gym for years.

My experience over the years is that gyms are one of the worst places to pick up bugs due to peoples lack of hygiene. If there is one plus from this pandemic its that the use of hand sanitiser has significantly reduced this risk.

 

[Sheffsteel]

Just read that Neil Etheridge is in hospital with Covid. I presume that he is young, eats healthily, is fit and has been going to gyms for years. This has not prevented him getting the disease, and not prevented him being hospitalised by it. Just because you are all of the above does not mean you are immune, and, more importantly, have the ability to pass it on to someone who is old, has a poor diet, less fit and hasn't visited a gym for years.

Good point…there will always be exceptions to make a case regards anything.
Even the hospitalisation data isn’t so clear. Apparently last year many covid patients needed to spend 1 to 2 weeks in hospital.
Whereas now according to a NHS representative covid patients are spending 1….2 or 3 nights max in hospital.
The treatment and understanding of covid has improved massively compared to last year.

I make personal risk assessments based on each situation using experience and facts, Most people I know who have had covid didn’t even have symptoms or had very minor symptoms.

It’s all about context and putting things into perspective, driving is incredibly dangerous but we still do it.
Alcohol (directly or indirectly) and obesity cause an incredible amount of deaths….should we ban alcohol and junk food?
1000’s die from flu every year…it’s a killer but in the past society hasn’t given it the respect it deserves. Without a vaccine I’d agree with extending lock down but now that vulnerable people are 95% protected from serious illness and hospitalisation then it makes sense to try and live normal lIves

The reality is that even with no vaccine if you are under 60 and have no health conditions you’re very unlikely to die…with a vaccine it’s virtually impossible to die unless you fall in the very elderly and having health condition groups….so like driving a car I’m prepared to accept the minimal risk.
I‘d rather die early knowing I’ve lived a life…instead of living to a great age hiding in the shadows
but I respect everyone is different with different values and experiences….so I’ve no problem with anyone thinking differently.

 

[Penny Black tart]

I'm not injecting drugs with unknown long term effects into my system to protect against an illness that's less likely to kill me than my commute to work, thanks



Yeah, this is going to be a huge problem. Went to a couple of NFL games in the US a couple of years back where they have solely app-based mobile ticketing, you can't just take a PDF or a screenshot. Didn't work at the gates either time

Fortunately over 80% of all adults currently are not as stupid as you, but that is for another thread not this one. I dare bet that you've taken many medicines and had injections with out any qualms previously. You are a silly boy, get yourself vaccinated. This jab has been around years for the SARS and MERS outbreaks, it has been updated for COVID 19.

 

[Penny Black tart]

Been to several cricket matches at Headingley and Edgbaston and Euros at Wembley and not had an issue with this at any. Plenty near to me have shown screen shots too or a paper confirmation of both jabs.

Biggest issue at the lane I can see will be the steward checking… not enough numbers and no space for an “outer” cordon for the checking away from the main turnstile queue. Won’t work in my humble opinion!

How do you know there will not be sufficient stewards? it hasn't been tested yet. knowing what may be required means they can get sufficient stewards.

 

[McGoaldrick]

Fortunately over 80% of all adults currently are not as stupid as you, but that is for another thread not this one. I dare bet that you've taken many medicines and had injections with out any qualms previously. You are a silly boy, get yourself vaccinated. This jab has been around years for the SARS and MERS outbreaks, it has been updated for COVID 19.

This vax is only approved under emergency use & producers are not liable. You’ll probably be fine but some people don’t want to take the risk. Fuck off & let them make their own decisions. Case by case basis. With most of the jabs the risk outweighs the reward for under 20s/under 30s. The only stupid one is you trying to force others into making decisions. Twat

 

[guancheblade]

Mainly pregnant woman and kids. But also those with a history of severe allergic reactions to vaccines.

I have an exemption because of my allergies but the NHS App doesn't explain how I acquire my COVID pass

 

[The Vicar]

Last summer I drove to Italy for a holiday, passing through France & Switzerland. Spent 17 days on holiday & returned.

No vaccines, no tests, just common sense, & all 4 of us were fine. This year the tests alone for the 4 of us will be £1k+, having all been vaccinated.

At some point somebody has to say that if you are willing to take the risk then that is your free choice, whether it be a sporting event or a holiday etc. Outdoor events should [in my humble opinion] be opening to a reasonable degree of their capacity in these summer months, as we have to start somewhere. Indoor events maybe should be much more limited in capacity.

But this present situation is unsustainable for most of us, & its no life!

 

[SWB]

This vax is only approved under emergency use & producers are not liable. You’ll probably be fine but some people don’t want to take the risk. Fuck off & let them make their own decisions. Case by case basis. With most of the jabs the risk outweighs the reward for under 20s/under 30s. The only stupid one is you trying to force others into making decisions. Twat

So it's not important that having the jabs also stops it spreading, or is it ok to be selfish cos it's all about me me me! !

 

[Le Cynique]

Last summer I drove to Italy for a holiday, passing through France & Switzerland. Spent 17 days on holiday & returned.

No vaccines, no tests, just common sense, & all 4 of us were fine. This year the tests alone for the 4 of us will be £1k+, having all been vaccinated.

At some point somebody has to say that if you are willing to take the risk then that is your free choice, whether it be a sporting event or a holiday etc. Outdoor events should [in my humble opinion] be opening to a reasonable degree of their capacity in these summer months, as we have to start somewhere. Indoor events maybe should be much more limited in capacity.

But this present situation is unsustainable for most of us, & its no life!

What about the free choice of an event organiser or a shop owner or a football club board to insist on vaccination?

I see a lot about this 'unethical' stance, 'forcing' people to have the vaccine. Surely freedom has to work both ways? If I had a shop - which given the behaviour of a lot of people I've seen in my local supermarkets over the past couple of years I'm very pleased to say I do not - I'd insist on mask-wearing unless exempt. even after Monday's change to the law. Anyone who chose not to do so could also choose to take their custom elsewhere. Similarly, if I was an owner of an attraction, pub or nightclub, I'd ask for proof of vaccination, natural immunity or exemption before I let people in. Once again, if they wanted to exercise their freedom of choice by not having the vaccine, they could exercise it elsewhere whilst I exercised my freedom of choice not to let the selfish cunts in.

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

I have an exemption because of my allergies but the NHS App doesn't explain how I acquire my COVID pass

Are you talking about certification to get into a sporting event? Which is what this thread is essentially about. Proof of double vaccination is only one option. Those who haven't/won't/can't be double vaxxed could simply use a reported negative home lateral flow test at this Summer's sporting events (EUROs, Wimbledon, etc).
I'll repeat what I've said earlier in this thread, I've been to events where attendees have had to demonstrate reduced Covid risk at the turnstile. It's been a low burden, no problem, piece of piss. People are getting their knickers in a twist over misunderstandings & rumours.

 

[bromtom]

Last summer I drove to Italy for a holiday, passing through France & Switzerland. Spent 17 days on holiday & returned.

No vaccines, no tests, just common sense, & all 4 of us were fine. This year the tests alone for the 4 of us will be £1k+, having all been vaccinated.

At some point somebody has to say that if you are willing to take the risk then that is your free choice, whether it be a sporting event or a holiday etc. Outdoor events should [in my humble opinion] be opening to a reasonable degree of their capacity in these summer months, as we have to start somewhere. Indoor events maybe should be much more limited in capacity.

But this present situation is unsustainable for most of us, & its no life!

People keep saying "if you're willing to take the risk you should be able to", but it's not your risk, it's everyone's because it's a virus not a dodgy takeaway.

It's like risking to drive home after 6 pints. You think you'll be fine and you might be, or you might run someone down.

I think outdoor events with precautions would be right to be happening if there weren't tens of thousands of new cases a day like there is now, but in theory they're safe, British GP will be a good benchmark because there were 40,000+ new cases yesterday so we'll see if that equates to more outdoor infection, and football is a mostly outdoor event so that should be ok, but we'll see.

 

[tyke1889]

My experience over the years is that gyms are one of the worst places to pick up bugs due to peoples lack of hygiene. If there is one plus from this pandemic its that the use of hand sanitiser has significantly reduced this risk.

And hopefully it'll reduce the number of dirty twats that don't seem capable of washing their hands after using the toilet too, now they know how important it is. I won't hold my breath though

 

[sitwell]

Need a jab in my arm not my kidneys though?

Hes right though ,you dont have to wait 8 weeks

 

[McGoaldrick]

So it's not important that having the jabs also stops it spreading, or is it ok to be selfish cos it's all about me me me! !

 

[McGoaldrick]

Are you talking about certification to get into a sporting event? Which is what this thread is essentially about. Proof of double vaccination is only one option. Those who haven't/won't/can't be double vaxxed could simply use a reported negative home lateral flow test at this Summer's sporting events (EUROs, Wimbledon, etc).
I'll repeat what I've said earlier in this thread, I've been to events where attendees have had to demonstrate reduced Covid risk at the turnstile. It's been a low burden, no problem, piece of piss. People are getting their knickers in a twist over misunderstandings & rumours.

As long as that’s the case and they don’t hike the cost of the tests up. I do think the media have been very disingenuous and fail to mention negative tests as an option when discussing these ‘passports’. I just think it’s important that people are allowed to make a personal choice without pressure

Tbf a negative test might even be more reliable as you can still catch/spread when vaxxed. Time will tell i guess

 

[Penny Black tart]

I have an exemption because of my allergies but the NHS App doesn't explain how I acquire my COVID pass

I could not do it via the App as there isn’t an option just advice, but someone on here today gave a link to get Covid passport and I followed it, sorted in two minutes and promised through post in 5 days, you need your nhs number

 

[The Vicar]

We all have a choice, get the vaccine or do not, go to an event or do not. This is not going away anytime soon, if ever!

Its Ok if the organiser of an event/shop owner/publican decides than anyone who wants to enter has to have been jabbed/take a test/wear a mask, as that gives each of us the choice to either conform or clear off elsewhere. But the idea of we all stay at home until it goes will never be leaving that home.

Anyone who gets on a plane takes a risk, but it is a risk they have decided to take. If the option is take no risk & stay at home or get on the plane, my bags are ready to go. Would I go to a football game, yes. Would I go to an indoor concert type event, no. My level of interest determines the level of risk I am prepared to take.

I want to respect the choices of others, but I would like us all to have a choice to make, when circumstances allow. And maybe it is the 'when circumstances allow' that is the real sticking point, because it is hard to agree on when this is.