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Liaminho9 said:
From what i've heard it's 2 vaccines and a negative test?
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Two vaccines or a negative test in the 48 hours before. Coming back from an Amber Country is two vaccines, a negative test 3 days before and a negative pcr test two days after!!
 
Imagine the queues etc outside the Lane, the turnstile set up can barely cope with the automated cards as I remember, god help people when their phones need to be checked before entry.
 
knowsnowt said:
Just climb on top on the bus stop on the corner of Cherry St and John St and jump the wall.
Did that for every home game.in 79 when my dad lost his job and we needed the ticket money for bog roll.
80 was a good year as I stole all the bog roll from the cop toilets meaning I didn't have to rip my keks on the barbed wire and outrun the fat stewards.

In 1983 I bummed a cat.. Nothing to do with ground entrance though, so I'll save that for another thread on off topic chat.
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Or get together with 50 yobs and storm past the stewards. It’s the future.
 
varkanoid said:
The people who dont want the vaccine have not had full covid. I tell you what if they get it l they will wish they had taken the vaccine. My wife and I had it last October but we didnt need to go to hospital and it was horrendous - six weeks it lasted plus another six weeks to get over Long covid and like I said we didnt need to go to hospital. Didnt feel "right" till just after Xmas.

Double vaccined now and glad of it. These people who dont want it might have a choice doesnt mean to say they are making the right one.
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We were exactly the same as you mate. Never experienced anything like it. We are fit and in our early 50s, no health conditions whatsoever, but it absolutely hammered us for 2 weeks..didn't get out of bed for a week. Lost tonnes of weight. I ended up in hospital for the night due to very low oxygen levels. For a long time we thought we were just not getting over it.

... but that's ok some on here will say 'because you got through it dint you?'

I wish that some of them could have experienced it like we did (without them coming to any harm obviously). They would be playing a different tune now that's for sure.

Glad to hear that you both pulled through👍
 

Yeah but we are in the Championship now ? ;) Also heard its only available for the top 6 clubs...................
 
I’ve renewed 3 season tickets and none of us will be going if passports and vaccines are required.
We’ll go if testing is free and straight forward but won’t go if it‘s a hassle.
I’ve emailed the club weeks ago to ask them if I could have a refund if there are restrictions and they‘ve still not replied.

I’ve seen almost every home match since the late 70’s but will only return when it returns to normal and i’m prepared to wait.

I’ve just returned from the Great Yorkshire show and it gave me hope. No testing, no QR codes, no track and trace apps and no signing in required.
Really large crowd, mainly outdoors, not many wearing masks….no distancing and no sign of nervousness either.
capacity was restricted to 30,000, so it was busy but not packed.
I’d say under 60’s age groups less than 5% wearing masks
Over 60’s was about 50% wearing masks.
It felt great, close to normal.
 
makblade said:
We were exactly the same as you mate. Never experienced anything like it. We are fit and in our early 50s, no health conditions whatsoever, but it absolutely hammered us for 2 weeks..didn't get out of bed for a week. Lost tonnes of weight. I ended up in hospital for the night due to very low oxygen levels. For a long time we thought we were just not getting over it.

... but that's ok some on here will say 'because you got through it dint you?'

I wish that some of them could have experienced it like we did (without them coming to any harm obviously). They would be playing a different tune now that's for sure.

Glad to hear that you both pulled through👍
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Mak ….just because you had a bad experience doesn’t mean others will, altho appreciate the warning.
Almost everyone I’ve know who’s had covid has has no symptoms or minor symptoms. In fact I know some people who have been ill with the vaccine (usually minor) however one was more serious, he could hardly breathe a few hours later and was thinking of going to hospital before it died down.

As in most things…people’ s opinions are based on their own experiences and accounts from their family and friends.

Think it‘s great that you’re now protected. However remember according to SAGE you can still catch covid and pass it on to others.
The media reporting has encouraged almost a mass hysteria regards covid. Think it‘s really important to stand back, do some research to acquire some perspective.
 
Sheffsteel said:
I’ve renewed 3 season tickets and none of us will be going if passports and vaccines are required.
We’ll go if testing is free and straight forward but won’t go if it‘s a hassle.
I’ve emailed the club weeks ago to ask them if I could have a refund if there are restrictions and they‘ve still not replied.

I’ve seen almost every home match since the late 70’s but will only return when it returns to normal and i’m prepared to wait.

I’ve just returned from the Great Yorkshire show and it gave me hope. No testing, no QR codes, no track and trace apps and no signing in required.
Really large crowd, mainly outdoors, not many wearing masks….no distancing and no sign of nervousness either.
capacity was restricted to 30,000, so it was busy but not packed.
I’d say under 60’s age groups less than 5% wearing masks
Over 60’s was about 50% wearing masks.
It felt great, close to normal.
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Sheffsteel
I'm here to help. I've been to ten games/events recently which required some sort of proof of reduced Covid risk for entry. They've been an absolute low burden no problem piece of piss. If you've simply got political or religious or philosophical reasons why you won't "play ball", that's your choice & I won't comment.
But, if you're bothered about some practical, logistical thing, I can ease your mind. I don't want to see a Blade not going to games because of some mad misunderstanding.
What's the worry?
 
Sheffsteel said:
Mak ….just because you had a bad experience doesn’t mean others will, altho appreciate the warning.
Almost everyone I’ve know who’s had covid has has no symptoms or minor symptoms. In fact I know some people who have been ill with the vaccine (usually minor) however one was more serious, he could hardly breathe a few hours later and was thinking of going to hospital before it died down.

As in most things…people’ s opinions are based on their own experiences and accounts from their family and friends.

Think it‘s great that you’re now protected. However remember according to SAGE you can still catch covid and pass it on to others.
The media reporting has encouraged almost a mass hysteria regards covid. Think it‘s really important to stand back, do some research to acquire some perspective.
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Yes mate I do realise that it gives varying levels of illness. I know some that have had it very mild (my kids are just a few) and I know people that have died from it. What annoys me is people on here that just dismiss it as 'only flu' or a 'fake virus that doesn't exist' without any respect for the many folk that have suffered in some way.

Just because they reflect on their own personal situation doesn't mean that everyone will get a mild disease from it - works both ways I guess!

I have an average understanding of Covid, I'm am not an expert, I don't have fav sources and I don't preach anything.

If someone spouts BS then I feel that I have to challenge them and ask them to back up their screenshots with evidence - which rarely happens. If I make a statement, more often than not there will be a link to where I read it.

My opinion is no more important that anyone's else's on here. We are all equal. It's just that some prefer to spread BS for which I can only assume is for attention.

Still hoping that this shitshow will be over by Xmas, but until the rest of the planet are jabbed up then I fear it may be Xmas 2022 😞

I am a positive person and I always have hope 👍
 
Sheffsteel said:
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As in most things…people’ s opinions are based on their own experiences and accounts from their family and friends.
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Trouble is, and I mean this with the greatest of respect, most people simply don’t have the required knowledge, experience and understanding to comprehend something as complex as virology or epidemiology, so their opinion is flawed from the outset as it’s not based on a solid understanding and application of the facts and data.

I completely include myself in that group, by the way. I’m happy to admit that I don’t understand it well enough to have a strong opinion, which is why I put my trust in the expertise of others. This isn’t a weakness on my part. I wouldn’t try to rewire my house or reprogram the canbus in my car, because I know I don’t have the ability to do so. To pretend that I do would be dangerous and foolhardy. So it is with trying to act like we know better than the experts.
 
I'm going to Silverstone for the British Grand Prix this weekend, there could be up to 140,000 attending on Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Chuff knows how they are going to manage over 400,000 people over three days, but they reckon they will.
 
Ball_Sup (Phil) said:
Sheffsteel
I'm here to help. I've been to ten games/events recently which required some sort of proof of reduced Covid risk for entry. They've been an absolute low burden no problem piece of piss. If you've simply got political or religious or philosophical reasons why you won't "play ball", that's your choice & I won't comment.
But, if you're bothered about some practical, logistical thing, I can ease your mind. I don't want to see a Blade not going to games because of some mad misunderstanding.
What's the worry?
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if it’s no hassle like you say….then I’ll take the test and go.
I’m not anti vaccine and may eventually take it if it’s mandatory to go abroad
but I’d rather do it the natural way and risk catching covid again acquire the anti bodies.
I’ve been regular attending gyms for decades, eat healthly, very fit and not been really ill since I was a child.
I work from home and when I had covid over a year ago I was under the weather…coughing…high temperature and weak body
but I continued working as normal….i have a gym at home and I didn’t have the energy to use that for about a month.

Also my brother took an anti malaria jab and died a few weeks later….so I’m slightly anti jabs.

Everyone is individual. I’d rather not take the vaccine…as in my case I’m prepared to take the risk
but if my experiences change or I’m basically forced then I would be prepared to take it.
 
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Sheffsteel said:
if it’s no hassle like you say….then I’ll take the test and go.
I’m not anti vaccine and may eventually take it….but I’d rather do it the natural way and risk catching covid again acquire the anti bodies.
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Well. If you're not anti vax. Then getting the Vax was the very easiest route to proving reduced Covid risk at the ten events I've attended. Don't cut your nose off to spite.... You've been going for ages. You've got season tickets. You're not anti vax. You don't want to be missing games in those circumstances do you?
 
Le Cynique said:
Trouble is, and I mean this with the greatest of respect, most people simply don’t have the required knowledge, experience and understanding to comprehend something as complex as virology or epidemiology, so their opinion is flawed from the outset as it’s not based on a solid understanding and application of the facts and data.
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Agree that none of us are experts but I‘ve totally lost all trust of the government, it seems they lie more than they tell the truth.

Example : In the early days there was a shortage of masks
So official government guidance is “our experts tell us masks aren’t required as they offer negligible protection“

Then once the orders arrive so the government have stocks of millions of face masks it’s
“our experts tell us masks are essential because they cut down infections…so they are now compulsory”

Later there are leaks of SAGE minutes where the behavioural scientists have said a fear policy is required to enforce compliance
and they explain that masks are essential as they provide a visual reminder to ensure compliance.

Then you have Matt Hancock who is on the inside speaking to the top scientists…so he knows the truth about the dangers
Hence his behaviour with regular close contact with someone outside his bubble proves how minimal MH believe his personal thrust is.

My point was more about “personal experience“ effecting behaviour.
Makblade has personal witnessed negative experiences of covid….so of course it’s natural to be weary.
My personal experience is I know a few people who have had covid…none have had more than a bad cold.
My family have had a situation where the husband was positive but the wive negative and vice versa.
These couples spend hours together at close quarters.
You can only conclude that either the testing is faulty or covid is very difficult to catch…who knows.
I don’t even know anyone who has died of covid apart from a friends parents…who were both in their late 80’s.

I’ve obviously been lucky….but this is my honest experience….hence my lack of fear.
As Mak says if I had a negative experience then I would change my tune and warn others not to be complacent.
 
Ball_Sup (Phil) said:
Well. If you're not anti vax. Then getting the Vax was the very easiest route to proving reduced Covid risk at the ten events I've attended. Don't cut your nose off to spite.... You've been going for ages. You've got season tickets. You're not anti vax. You don't want to be missing games in those circumstances do you?
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I‘m the type that has to be persuaded to take anything.…I‘ve never even had a head ache tablet.
The reason is….every few years I’ll get a headache….someone will say “you need to take an aspirin“.
I leave it…and massage my temples instead….about 2 hours later…the head ache has gone.
Now if….after a few hours I still had a headache….then I would take a tablet…so I’m not actually anti tablet.

Regards flu, covid or any illness I’d rather catch it and build up my own anti bodies.
If my personal experience (or someone close) was scary severe then of course…it’s “live and learn“ and I’d willingly take a vaccine.
However ive become more and more suspicious of the way the vaccine is effectively being advertised on the news.

It’s feels like if someone came up to you in the street and offered you £50.
You‘re immediately suspicious and you say “sorry. not interested”
They then give £50 notes to other people in the street and say “look there’s no catch…£50 can be yours for free”
I’m tempted but again say “no” again. They then become extra persuasive….telling me I could take the £50 and treat a loved one.
I again say “No”….They then start becoming aggressive.,,telling me I’m crazy to refuse £50 and I‘m cutting off my nose to spite my face so must take it
I then start becoming more and more suspicious…
then a friendly BallSup (Phil) says “come on mate why not take the £50, it’s free money. What could go wrong? Just take the money and spend it like everyone else”
Then Ainsley comes along and says “don‘t take it…you’ll become part of a cult and lose the freedom you previously classed as normal”
Bruce Wayne then says a respected scientist on the net says the £50 notes have a highly poisonous ink that alters your brain so you can be controlled by Bill Gates”
 
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Sheffsteel said:
I‘m the type that has to be persuaded to take anything.…I‘ve never even had a head ache tablet.
The reason is….every few years I’ll get a headache….someone will say “you need to take an aspirin“.
I leave it…and massage my temples instead….about 2 hours later…the head ache has gone.
Now if….after a few hours I still had a headache….then I would take a tablet…so I’m not actually anti tablet.

Regards flu, covid or any illness I’d rather catch it and build up my own anti bodies.
If my personal experience (or someone close) was scary severe then of course…it’s “live and learn“ and I’d willingly take a vaccine.
However ive become more and more suspicious of the way the vaccine is effectively being advertised on the news.

It’s feels like if someone came up to you in the street and offered you £50.
You‘re immediately suspicious and you say “sorry. not interested”
They then give £50 notes to other people in the street and say “look there’s no catch…£50 can be yours for free”
I’m tempted but again say “no” again. They then become extra persuasive….telling me I could take the £50 and give it to a loved one.
I again say “No”….They then start becoming aggressive.,,telling me I’m crazy to refuse £50 and I must take it.
I then start becoming more suspicious…then a friendly Ball Supp (Phil) says “come on mate….why not take the £50…it’s free money for you to spend how you like”
Then Ainsley comes along and says “don‘t take it…you’ll become part of a cult and lose the freedom you previously classed as normal”
Bruce Wayne then says a respected scientist on the net says the £50 notes have a highly poisonous ink that alters your brain so you can be controlled by Bill Gates
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Mate. Sorry. I'm talking about going to a football match to support my/your team. If you don't want to, don't go.
 
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