CONFIRMED Slaviša Jokanović

[247Blade]

We can’t be that worse off surely? He owns about 6 clubs!

Yes thats the problem.... PA not concentrating on 1 club ... probably using our parachute payments to fund others?

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Yes thats the problem.... PA not concentrating on 1 club ... probably using our parachute payments to fund others?

What utter shite. How is he getting money out of our club? Do you think we share bank accounts or something?

 

[Gin&Juice]

When he took Boro back up as player manager as Champions at the first time of asking I thought he’d go on to have a glittering managerial career. Turns out he was an absolute fraud.

As you say though he was given a free hand to bring in the likes of Juninho, Ravenelli, Emerson, Barmby etc and I think it’s fair to say an success they had during his period was in spite of him. The Premier League at the time wasn't what it is now and was fairly light on technical quality. So anybody who signed a few decent foreign players stood a chance.

I think Robson's wife had to remind him every morning which club he was supposed to be managing when he was with us, such was his apparent enthusiasm levels for the job. His tepid approach to the Sheffield derby as 'just another game' ensured the pigs had us on toast. I remember this winding me up.....would he have said the same about Man U v Man City, or Man U v Liverpool?

He was able to attract some big names though (some good, some not so good), it seems a lot of players were starstruck by Captain Marvel they watched when they were kids. The only SUFC player I've ever heard have anything negative to say about him was Paddy Kenny who described his time in charge as a circus. Footballers funnily enough never seem to bad mouth managers who take them out on the piss all the time.

Pound for pound the worst manager we've had, certainly in my life time and the only one I actively dislike. He clearly had no respect for the club or its supporters. When Nigel Adkins pops up with one of his motivational videos on twitter, walking in the countryside spouting sub-David Brent slogans its like nails down a blackboard but I don't hate the guy.

warning signs should’ve been that he got relegated with a striker who won the CL the year before (who was the highest paid player in the PL), a Brazilian international and wealth of talent that pushed our much love Jan Age as 5th choice striker.

When they got relegated he signed Merson who was an England international. Probably the best championship team of all time.

 

[CrookesBlade]

warning signs should’ve been that he got relegated with a striker who won the CL the year before (who was the highest paid player in the PL), a Brazilian international and wealth of talent that pushed our much love Jan Age as 5th choice striker.

When they got relegated he signed Merson who was an England international. Probably the best championship team of all time.

Remember the game against them around 98 when the had Merson, Gazza and Hamilton Ricard in the side. Blades fans breathed a sigh of relief that we didn't spend £3m on Ricard and Merson put a penalty into the BL upper.

 

[Rodley]

Yes thats the problem.... PA not concentrating on 1 club ... probably using our parachute payments to fund others?

I don’t think funds are being diverted, but I think it’s a demonstration that our owner isn’t comparatively speaking the poorest in the league.

It does sometimes feel like a small minority in our fanbase are already falling over themselves to undersell the advantage that parachute payments give us financially. If SJ or another manager wants to be the best paid in the division, we should be amongst the three best placed financially to make this happen. It’s not beyond the wit of man.

 

[Rodley]

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[CrookesBlade]

Ah yes, most important thing is they interview well. Not that they're any fucking good at managing (not aimed at you btw).

Micky Adams interviewed well. He turned out abysmal.

Danny Wilson interviewed well. History may be kind to him, but given the resources, it was a bit of a screw up not getting promoted with Maguire, Lowton, Quinn, Williamson, Kevin MacDonald, 34 goal Ched etc.

Give me his 2 promotions with 2 clubs in similar circumstances over a rushed fireside chat with Bettis and Schriber.

Bettis should be most in the know around unprepared interviews at short notice given his own car crash effort when Wilder left.

This smacks a little of Wednesday wanting to see Cantona on grass and then him jumping to Leeds and smashing it if we show interest then don't get him.

I think under Wilson in that first season we finished on 93 points which would have seen us go up as Champions nearly any other year, I think its harsh to call him a failure but he should have been able to see us through those last 3 league fixtures with the quality we had instead of folding lack a pack of cards.

His biggest mistake was not replacing Simonsen. If he hadn't kept chucking goals in his own net we'd have been comfortably over the line with 4 or 5 games to go.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

I don’t think funds are being diverted, but I think it’s a demonstration that our owner isn’t comparatively speaking the poorest in the league.

It does sometimes feel like a small minority in our fanbase are already falling over themselves to undersell the advantage that parachute payments give us financially. If SJ or another manager wants to be the best paid in the division, we should be amongst the three best placed financially to make this happen. It’s not beyond the wit of man.

I don't think anyone has said it isn't possible, just that it isn't necessary the right way to go. There's a finite amount of money, the more you spend the less you have, the quicker you spend it the sooner it's gone, and if you blow it all on expensive players or managers with little or no resale value then you're up shit creek when it's gone.
If you appoint a coach on less money, who doesn't need to bring in 7-8 experienced pro's that block the progression of our young players and who build teams on smaller budgets and develops them into title winners the risk is much lower.

That also shouldn't be beyond the wit of man.

 

[247Blade]

What utter shite. How is he getting money out of our club? Do you think we share bank accounts or something?

He's only got so much so he can't finance every team?

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

He's only got so much so he can't finance every team?

 

[Champagneblade]

I think under Wilson in that first season we finished on 93 points which would have seen us go up as Champions nearly any other year, I think its harsh to call him a failure but he should have been able to see us through those last 3 league fixtures with the quality we had instead of folding lack a pack of cards.

His biggest mistake was not replacing Simonsen. If he hadn't kept chucking goals in his own net we'd have been comfortably over the line with 4 or 5 games to go.

He had to do very little 'managing' in my opinion given the quality of the squad. All he had to do was get reasonable insurance for Ched, knowing what was hanging over him. He signed Hoskins who he knew was injured. He signed O'Halloran who was absolute shite and he signed Beattie who was 2 years past his sell by date. Overall, not. Avery good job when push came to shove. The fact he got taken on was ridiculous. He was a very nice guy, but he'd just got Swindon relegated from the division we wanted to get promoted!

He was a bit more unlucky the following year with what happened to Sean Miller and Diego and then McCabe helping him to flog Blackman only to be replaced by Jonathan Forte.

 

[billyblademan]

He had to do very little 'managing' in my opinion given the quality of the squad. All he had to do was get reasonable insurance for Ched, knowing what was hanging over him. He signed Hoskins who he knew was injured. He signed O'Halloran who was absolute shite and he signed Beattie who was 2 years past his sell by date. Overall, not. Avery good job when push came to shove. The fact he got taken on was ridiculous. He was a very nice guy, but he'd just got Swindon relegated from the division we wanted to get promoted!

He was a bit more unlucky the following year with what happened to Sean Miller and Diego and then McCabe helping him to flog Blackman only to be replaced by Jonathan Forte.

Maybe Wilson had run his course by the end of that second season, but he was pretty unlucky in the first year for obvious reasons, and we played some great football that year. For the first time since my attending as a fan, the only question walking into a home game was 'how many by?' rather than whether we'd win at all. We'd go a goal down, and the reaction was to shrug, knowing the scoreline would merely be 3-1 or 4-1 instead of 3 or 4-0. That's not being Billy Big Bollocks, it just seemed that we were swatting teams away like flies, we had such a good team. Maybe that's why matches like the Oldham game stick out so much - forget the red cards/penalties, it was just so shocking to lose a home game.

As for the Ched backup - Hoskins, O Hall, and Beattie were all gambles of a sort. Hoskins looked decent before he got injured, O Halloran obviously was garbage, Beattie who knows? If he hadn't have got sent off in the last day of the season against Exeter, maybe he could have provided something at Wembley (past his best or not).

I agree with CrookesBlade on replacing Simmo - he was a liability. Problem is when he's on £20k+ a week, he's hard to shift. He also turned into a world beater somehow that day at Wembley, until his infamous penalty...

 

[bongleblade]

Feels like the right appointment for sure. If i was PA i’d be looking at this long term plan:

Jokanovic for 1st attempt promotion

Keep a watchful eye on Blessin for the long term to prepare for SJ leaving like he did with Watford/Fulham

 

[ancientblade]

everbody seems to be assuming that jokanovic will be here 1 or 2 seasons then be on his bike but im not so sure he may see us as a longer term prospect than either fulham or watford and hes definetly the stand out candidate for me especially with his liking for fast attacking football something weve been starved of in the last year or so at the lane think bob will be along soon disagreeing with me lol

 

[MobileBlade]

Standard interview procedure surely....wouldn't you ask questions of a prospective employer regarding their future plans before taking a job?

You know how it goes:

SB/PA: Whats your biggest weakness
SJ: My honesty
SB/PA: We don't think thats a weakness
SJ: I don't give a fuck what you think

 

[Aston max]

Oh eye, because muck and nettles Alex Blessin who hadn't left Germany before last summer would fit right in to the cafe culture of London Road wouldn't he?

Jokanovich will these Serbs love a battle ground

 

[Roygbiv]

warning signs should’ve been that he got relegated with a striker who won the CL the year before (who was the highest paid player in the PL), a Brazilian international and wealth of talent that pushed our much love Jan Age as 5th choice striker.

When they got relegated he signed Merson who was an England international. Probably the best championship team of all time.

I always used to start with them on Champ Man 97 because their team was ridiculous for The Championship

Mark Schwarzer
Gianluca Festa
Paul Merson
Paul Gascoigne
Emerson
Andy Townsend
Fabrizio Ravanelli

They finished 2nd

 

[ChappyAppleBlade]

Jokanovich will these Serbs love a battle ground

Can't wait to celebrate Promotion next May outside Barry's with cousin Niko Slav.

 

[Aston max]

Can't wait to celebrate Promotion next May outside Barry's with cousin Niko Slav.

Aye so long as the bus shelters can hold his weight

 

[Blade58]

We must have a top three budget, I think FFP would make it nigh on impossible for another club to get near those with parachute payments.

If we don’t have a top three budget something is majorly wrong.

I'd be a staggered if the club has a top 3 budget

 

[cooperblade]

He had to do very little 'managing' in my opinion given the quality of the squad. All he had to do was get reasonable insurance for Ched, knowing what was hanging over him. He signed Hoskins who he knew was injured. He signed O'Halloran who was absolute shite and he signed Beattie who was 2 years past his sell by date. Overall, not. Avery good job when push came to shove. The fact he got taken on was ridiculous. He was a very nice guy, but he'd just got Swindon relegated from the division we wanted to get promoted!

He was a bit more unlucky the following year with what happened to Sean Miller and Diego and then McCabe helping him to flog Blackman only to be replaced by Jonathan Forte.

Yeah, I think he underachieved in his first season but was overachieving in his second (until he got sacked)

 

[Rodley]

I'd be a staggered if the club has a top 3 budget

We get £40m more than other clubs without parachute payments, and the latter have basically had no income for 12 months. If we are in worse financial nick than the 21 Championship clubs we are in major trouble.

 

[Bashamed]

I always used to start with them on Champ Man 97 because their team was ridiculous for The Championship

Mark Schwarzer
Gianluca Festa
Paul Merson
Paul Gascoigne
Emerson
Andy Townsend
Fabrizio Ravanelli

They finished 2nd

I was always Middlesbrough then switched to Blackburn a couple of seasons after for the same reason. Craig Hignett and Matt Jansen were amazing. Binned Blake off at half time of first game

 

[Blade58]

We get £40m more than other clubs without parachute payments, and the latter have basically had no income for 12 months. If we are in worse financial nick than the 21 Championship clubs we are in major trouble.

I don't know whether we will be better off or worse off, just as you don't Rodley, but what I will add is that other clubs might not owe transfer instalments on the likes of Brewster, Ramsdale and Berge and other clubs may not have a mortgage against the stadium to pay McCabe for the assets. Other clubs, whilst I accept we've dropped our wage bill due to relegation, may also not have a wage bill as high as our club. Other clubs may not have the sort of overheads the likes of the size of club that we are.

There's already the usual rumours flying around about having sell £40m worth of player sales before the manager can even talk about a transfer budget. Probably bollox of course, but then would I be surprised? No!

 

[Roygbiv]

I was always Middlesbrough then switched to Blackburn a couple of seasons after for the same reason. Craig Hignett and Matt Jansen were amazing. Binned Blake off at half time of first game

Are you Howard Kendall?

 

[robbiez666]

I don't know whether we will be better off or worse off, just as you don't Rodley, but what I will add is that other clubs might not owe transfer instalments on the likes of Brewster, Ramsdale and Berge and other clubs may not have a mortgage against the stadium to pay McCabe for the assets. Other clubs, whilst I accept we've dropped our wage bill due to relegation, may also not have a wage bill as high as our club. Other clubs may not have the sort of overheads the likes of the size of club that we are.

There's already the usual rumours flying around about having sell £40m worth of player sales before the manager can even talk about a transfer budget. Probably bollox of course, but then would I be surprised? No!

Prince said that we'd basically paid for 3/4 of the signings we've made by January. (we've paid more upfront instead of in equal instalments as a team would normally do).

The average net sales of a relegated club from the PL in £40 million. That's just normal. Every team does it, whether by choice or otherwise.

 

[Blade58]

Prince said that we'd basically paid for 3/4 of the signings we've made by January. (we've paid more upfront instead of in equal instalments as a team would normally do).

The average net sales of a relegated club from the PL in £40 million. That's just normal. Every team does it, whether by choice or otherwise.

That's good housekeeping then so good. Ok, so how much did McBurnie, Moose Rammers, Brewster, Burke, Berge, Lowe and Bogle combined add up to. I guess £105m or so? Therefore we owe around £25m. Obviously a complete guess.

Anyone know the situation regards what the cub owes for the mortgage on the assets?

Wonder what our wage bill will be next season? I'll hazard a guess at £25m

£4m salary for SJ?

What's left of the parachute payments and reduced income streams resulting from relegation? Here's another guess, not a great deal

 

[bypassblade]

Why? We’re shit and we’re down it’s not going to make any difference to anything.
It doesn’t stop us looking at new players, it doesn’t stop them identifying who they don’t want or whom they want to sell.
It gives us nothing apart from to fuck up their current sides season if it’s still running.

True it doesn't stop us looking at players but, if when new man comes in he's not interested it's been a waste of time.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

True it doesn't stop us looking at players but, if when new man comes in he's not interested it's been a waste of time.

I'd agree, but we've moved away from the Wilder model I'd suspect. There's no point have Van Winckel and not using him.

 

[bypassblade]

I'd agree, but we've moved away from the Wilder model I'd suspect. There's no point have Van Winkle and not using him.

Bob pardon my ignorance mate but who's Rip Van Winkle fella?