Daniel Storey Article re: Blades Board and Wilder

[Rodley]

Optus Sport Has Closed

sport.optus.com.au

 

[Nine Inch Nalis]

Read it earlier, and it's a load of bollocks about 'not being built for the Premier League'.

Nothing is pre-destined, you get there by consistently making the right decisions at key times. That's why clubs who also 'weren't built for the Premier League' have enjoyed longer stays than us i.e Stoke, Burnley Swansea, Watford, Wigan, Bournemouth, Fulham to name only a few.

Just as we were being patronised last year, we're being condescended to this year by football's chattering classes.

 

[Bennyand the Blades]

It all boils down to the money, without loads of it in the Prem. your just cannon fodder, one poor season and your dead.
With money you just sack the manager and buy another world class team.......

 

[FATTYFOULKE]

Read it earlier, and it's a load of bollocks about 'not being built for the Premier League'.

Nothing is pre-destined, you get there by consistently making the right decisions at key times. That's why clubs who also 'weren't built for the Premier League' have enjoyed longer stays than us i.e Stoke, Burnley Swansea, Watford, Wigan, Bournemouth, Fulham to name only a few.

Just as we were being patronised last year, we're being condescended to this year by football's chattering classes.

Winds me up how they talk us down. As you say, smaller clubs than us have had prolonged periods in the Premier League but Wigan apart I don’t remember those type of comments.

It takes time to build a Premier League infrastructure but it can be done. We‘re certainly a big enough club to become mainstay’s in the Premier League.

I think what’s screwed us is how we’ve not been able to buy CW’s first choice players because money had to be held back by the Prince for the purchase of the ground.

His second choice buys have been poor and that’s why I have no sympathy for CW’s objection of a DOF.

It‘s a shame it’s fell apart this season. I put a lot of that down to bad luck in tight games, no crowds because of the pandemic and then loss of confidence.

It’s going to be tough next year. No CW and the players have took a real kicking this season. It won’t be easy to recover from.

 

[Rodley]

Burnley did a single season and returned, Fulham the same recently. You can do it incrementally.

Others established themselves for spells by spending proper money - Swansea had Michu up front at one point! Stoke despite the agricultural reputation have major money behind them. Likewise Dave Whelan put some cash in at Wigan.

The reason we’re patronised is we go up, spend peanuts, last one or two seasons and return to the norm. Leeds have gone up and moved the needle with wages, infrastructure spending, etc. Sadly we always go for the small time option.

 

[FredZeppelin]

Eloquently written but absolutely nothing that we didn't already know or weren't aware of.

The most pertinent part, though, was this:
We’re about to find out exactly where Sheffield United sit in the pecking order, but there is one indisputable truth: Nobody knows what happens next.

That is spot on. We can 'piss and moan' and spend time mourning the loss of out greatest manager. That's only natural. No problem. But only our loyal support and full backing of the new manager right from the start of the season will be good enough if we really do want to re-establish ourselves "in the pecking order". I don't think protesting against CW leaving and effectively 'living in the past' is going to help anyone. Certainly not us as supporters.

Only my opinion. No doubt some will disagree.

UTB

 

[AdamSufc1997]

Winds me up how they talk us down. As you say, smaller clubs than us have had prolonged periods in the Premier League but Wigan apart I don’t remember those type of comments.

It takes time to build a Premier League infrastructure but it can be done. We‘re certainly a big enough club to become mainstay’s in the Premier League.

I think what’s screwed us is how we’ve not been able to buy CW’s first choice players because money had to be held back by the Prince for the purchase of the ground.

His second choice buys have been poor and that’s why I have no sympathy for CW’s objection of a DOF.

It‘s a shame it’s fell apart this season. I put a lot of that down to bad luck in tight games, no crowds because of the pandemic and then loss of confidence.

It’s going to be tough next year. No CW and the players have took a real kicking this season. It won’t be easy to recover from.

Not only that, CW's first choice are in a british market which is very expensive compared to the foreign route.

 

[Smirth]

He's right though, the structure in place at our club is not built for the Premier League. We are in the Premier League solely because we employed a good manager and got lucky.

We didn't have a plan to get there, we just had a good manager and a group of players who worked their bollocks off collectively and achieved more than the sum of its parts. We don't pay Premier League wages, and we didn't pay top end championship wages when we won promotion. We didn't spend big money to win promotion, rather sold players to fund sensible recruits, but they weren't head turning players that we signed, but players who fit in with the style of play and the ethos of the manager. We have a good, but dated stadium which needs some updating. We have average training facilities which need updating.

The article points out some uncomfortable home truths which most of us are aware of and are now being forced to come to terms with. We are in the Premier League because of Chris Wilder, and we are now coming down from the Premier League because of, but not solely, Chris Wilder. The structure we had in place was never going to survive for long in the Premier League because it centred around one person, Chris Wilder. Take him away and the whole pack of cards falls in on itself. The sad thing is that it's fallen in with him still at the helm, but that is because of the failings of entrusting everything to him.

 

[dc_blade]

Pretty decent article and quite balanced I thought.

It's undoubtedly true that Abdullah doesn't have the money to buy our way into being an established Premier League team. He seems to think he's found a way around that with this United World lark; I don't believe it's likely to work but I'm willing to let him give it a shot (as if it matters what I think ). We could all hope and pray and even protest for a richer owner but I think we're just as likely to get someone much worse.

 

[robbiez666]

He's right though, the structure in place at our club is not built for the Premier League. We are in the Premier League solely because we employed a good manager and got lucky.

We didn't have a plan to get there, we just had a good manager and a group of players who worked their bollocks off collectively and achieved more than the sum of its parts. We don't pay Premier League wages, and we didn't pay top end championship wages when we won promotion. We didn't spend big money to win promotion, rather sold players to fund sensible recruits, but they weren't head turning players that we signed, but players who fit in with the style of play and the ethos of the manager. We have a good, but dated stadium which needs some updating. We have average training facilities which need updating.

The article points out some uncomfortable home truths which most of us are aware of and are now being forced to come to terms with. We are in the Premier League because of Chris Wilder, and we are now coming down from the Premier League because of, but not solely, Chris Wilder. The structure we had in place was never going to survive for long in the Premier League because it centred around one person, Chris Wilder. Take him away and the whole pack of cards falls in on itself. The sad thing is that it's fallen in with him still at the helm, but that is because of the failings of entrusting everything to him.

not true though is it. If PA (and KC) hadn't supported then we'd not have come up. PM finds the players. SB negotiates contracts. AK does the tactics. MP does the fitness training. Wilder seems to get all the praise when things went well but not all the blame when it doesn't.

 

[Smirth]

not true though is it. If PA (and KC) hadn't supported then we'd not have come up. PM finds the players. SB negotiates contracts. AK does the tactics. MP does the fitness training. Wilder seems to get all the praise when things went well but not all the blame when it doesn't.

My post isn't intended to demean the work of Knill and the rest of the coaching staff, but without Wilder it all falls apart, he's the one who knits together the work which they do as well as giving the green light on prospects. By his own words he had his finger prints on everything at the club, he was the decision maker working below the Prince.

 

[Rodley]

Pretty decent article and quite balanced I thought.

It's undoubtedly true that Abdullah doesn't have the money to buy our way into being an established Premier League team. He seems to think he's found a way around that with this United World lark; I don't believe it's likely to work but I'm willing to let him give it a shot (as if it matters what I think ). We could all hope and pray and even protest for a richer owner but I think we're just as likely to get someone much worse.

I hope someone has told the Prince about Brexit and how that’s going to impact on Work Permits. The United World thing is significantly less likely to work now, than it would do so if we were in the PL and / or in the EU.

 

[Swannyblade]

I hope someone has told the Prince about Brexit and how that’s going to impact on Work Permits. The United World thing is significantly less likely to work now, than it would do so if we were in the PL and / or in the EU.

Maybe we’re the feeder club!