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Kozzy_is_my_Dad said:
"Calf" injury.

What a way to wangle concussion guidelines.
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If he was genuinely concussed last night then he definitely should not be playing on Sunday. It's really dangerous stuff that the world of sport needs to wake up to quicker.

To be honest, even if he's strained his Calf slightly we should pull him for Sunday. We need to look after our squad, we need Egan to play a huge part in the Xmas run in.
 
Morgans, the world of sport has 'woken up' to concussions. At Academy level any concussion results in a.mandarory 2 weeks off contact sport. Plus they have to go through a 'concussion protocol' that involves them.being measured through a series of cognitive questions against a base established at the start of the season.

I'm sure the same will apply to senior football. So if it is concussion hes off for a minimum of 2.weeks. If it's a calf, as someone else said, they can be tricky and if you dont let them completely.clear up they reoccur regularly.

I'm sure a young, dominating centre half is.near thentop of Wilders shopping.list this January. He can act as.cover.then a replacement if one of the big 4.come in for Egan in the summer
 
FriethBlade said:
Morgans, the world of sport has 'woken up' to concussions. At Academy level any concussion results in a.mandarory 2 weeks off contact sport. Plus they have to go through a 'concussion protocol' that involves them.being measured through a series of cognitive questions against a base established at the start of the season.

I'm sure the same will apply to senior football. So if it is concussion hes off for a minimum of 2.weeks. If it's a calf, as someone else said, they can be tricky and if you dont let them completely.clear up they reoccur regularly.

I'm sure a young, dominating centre half is.near thentop of Wilders shopping.list this January. He can act as.cover.then a replacement if one of the big 4.come in for Egan in the summer
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My youngest lad played junior and colt level rugby. They’re really strong about it but then when one of his mates has had to give up all contact sport for life aged 16 because of the lasting effects of concussion you can understand why
 
Punk Blade said:
I'm hoping he hasn't suffered any kind of brain injury, What are you on about?
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It was a clash of heads. Not a bad one. Even discounting the fact he’s from Cork, it’s unlikely he’ll have done any permanent damage and I’m pretty sure he’ll have had a scan just to be sure.
The bigger danger to footballers is repeatedly heading the ball, as it’s similar to a boxer being punched in the head.

I think that’s why a minor concussion may be preferable to a calf injury, which could keep him out for a few games.

I don’t think anyone is suggesting playing him if there’s any risk of a brain injury.
 
I’m sure our medical team will do what’s best for John Egan, that’s what they are paid for. Calf or head if he’s 100% fit he will play. If he isn’t then jags will step in
 
BushBlade said:
It was a clash of heads. Not a bad one. Even discounting the fact he’s from Cork, it’s unlikely he’ll have done any permanent damage and I’m pretty sure he’ll have had a scan just to be sure.
The bigger danger to footballers is repeatedly heading the ball, as it’s similar to a boxer being punched in the head.

I think that’s why a minor concussion may be preferable to a calf injury, which could keep him out for a few games.

I don’t think anyone is suggesting playing him if there’s any risk of a brain injury.
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I’m not talking about the risk of playing him on Sunday. I was simply saying if he was to have either a concussion or a calf injury, then I’m hoping not a concussion as that is a worse injury for John Egan.

Those saying ‘I hope he has concussion’ in the expectation he would likely miss fewer games seem to me to be putting results before players’ welfare, which I don’t agree with.
 
cahill said:
Well obviously I'm hoping he's brain damaged you fckin pillock
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My view is player health is more important than results and I would rather any player doesn’t suffer a brain injury, no matter how minor. You’re entitled to disagree but there’s no need for the aggression and name-calling.
 
Punk Blade said:
I’m not talking about the risk of playing him on Sunday. I was simply saying if he was to have either a concussion or a calf injury, then I’m hoping not a concussion as that is a worse injury for John Egan.

Those saying ‘I hope he has concussion’ in the expectation he would likely miss fewer games seem to me to be putting results before players’ welfare, which I don’t agree with.
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You’re forming a subjective opinion on which injury is worse and then belittling people who disagree.
 
BushBlade said:
You’re forming a subjective opinion on which injury is worse and then belittling people who disagree.
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Is the subjectivity not largely due to the reasons the injuries are being compared, rather than the comparison itself?

I’m not attempting to belittle anyone. I just don’t think ‘I hope it’s concussion’ is a good sentiment when talking in terms of return date or availability for Sunday.
 
Punk Blade said:
Is the subjectivity not largely due to the reasons the injuries are being compared, rather than the comparison itself?

I’m not attempting to belittle anyone. I just don’t think ‘I hope it’s concussion’ is a good sentiment when talking in terms of return date or availability for Sunday.
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I read it as shorthand for ‘mild concussion’ as I’d seen the incident and it didn’t look particularly serious. The subjectivity is assuming that any kind of concussion injury is ‘worse’ than any kind of calf injury. That’s your opinion but I think if you asked a lot of people whether they’d rather have mild concussion or a torn calf, a lot would go for the concussion. Similarly I imagine most would prefer a calf strain to a serious head injury.
As we’re dealing in hypotheticals, ie we don’t actually know what the injury is, never mind the extent of it, we can’t be totally objective.
 



Don’t think he was concussed as I’m certain I lip read him saying Wednesday are shite as he was walking off at half time. Be reet
 
Punk Blade said:
My view is player health is more important than results and I would rather any player doesn’t suffer a brain injury, no matter how minor. You’re entitled to disagree but there’s no need for the aggression


Reflect a bit before you accuse people of not being bothered about a players wellbeing which you were accusing me of. Read what I actually said before you are quick to judge and take offense. Meanwhile every justification for telling you where to stuff it under the circumstances. A bit rich accusing me of aggression when I responded to your attack. So pretty please with sugar on top fck off.

Last word on the subject
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Punk Blade said:
Is the subjectivity not largely due to the reasons the injuries are being compared, rather than the comparison itself?

I’m not attempting to belittle anyone. I just don’t think ‘I hope it’s concussion’ is a good sentiment when talking in terms of return date or availability for Sunday.
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Stop twisting my words.
 
If it was concussion he shouldn't have continued playing in the first place
 
Punk Blade said:
No, you said:

I’m sorry if you felt attacked, you should be careful on Internet forums, people can overreact to things and get very aggressive and personal
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Excuse me you're not a part time philosopher are you ?
 
CaptainMorgans said:
If he was genuinely concussed last night then he definitely should not be playing on Sunday. It's really dangerous stuff that the world of sport needs to wake up to quicker.

To be honest, even if he's strained his Calf slightly we should pull him for Sunday. We need to look after our squad, we need Egan to play a huge part in the Xmas run in.
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Rest assured Wilder will do the right thing.
 
dublin 10 blade said:
I know what you meant Grumpy Blade ,
but unfortunately some Brexiteers on ere , still think we have an empire and everything is going to be tickety boo once we put Johnny Foreigner in there place
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To save Pinchy the trouble , THEIR , fucking THEIR !
 



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