Potential Internationals

[Kanye]

Plenty of people have mentioned the prospect of Jack O'Connell potentially getting in the England squad. I think that's a tad premature, but if he maintains his good form throughout the season, then it's certainly a possibility.

It got me thinking; who else in our squad could potentially receive international recognition? After looking through the squad, I found 2 potential call-ups.

George Baldock: While his inability to speak the language may be an issue, Baldock is eligible to play for Greece. So far, the full-back has taken to PL football like a duck to water. With him just entering his prime and being apparently obsessed with always working to improve his game, the best may be yet to come.
Greece's current first choice RB is AEK's Michalis Bakakis. I'd be lying if I said I knew anything about him, but with him spending his whole career to date in Greece, it's not inconceivable that Baldock could at least compete for a place with the 28 year old.

Lys Mousset: has featured for the French U21s in the past. With the current holders of the World Cup boasting options such as Mbappe, Griezmann and Lacazette, and call-up to the senior team looks unlikely. He is eligible to play for Senegal however, through his father, so could potentially represent them if he was ever called up.
Senegal do have Mané, though he's more often used as a LW. An opening in the team at CF could potentially be on the cards should Mousset have a good season, with the AFCON finalist's current options being Bristol's Diedhiou, or Rennes' Niang, amongst others.

Unfortunately, attempts to link John Lundstram to a Scandinavian nation were unsuccessful. Looks like he'll have to wait for an England call up.

 

[Badger Blade]

Unfortunately, attempts to link John Lundstram to a Scandinavian nation were unsuccessful. Looks like he'll have to wait for an England call up.

If he was spelt Lundström it might be a different story

 

[Luke1993]

I don't see why you would say joc for England is premature, Tyrone mings played in the last game.

 

[HoodedClaw]

Basham ought to be a shoo-in

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

I'm lead to believe that JOC is currently on Southgate's watchlist and his performances are being closely monitored.

 

[Kanye]

I don't see why you would say joc for England is premature, Tyrone mings played in the last game.

I would personally have said that its premature for Mings too. I don't think either player has sufficiently proven themselves at PL level, yet.

I can only assume that Mings' previous experience at PL level combined with him being more used to playing in a back 4, rather than back 5 (like JOC) gave him the edge in terms of England selection.

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

If he was spelt Lundström it might be a different story

I believe he is of Norweigen descent, but not close enough to represent.

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

I would personally have said that its premature for Mings too. I don't think either player has sufficiently proven themselves at PL level, yet.

I can only assume that Mings' previous experience at PL level combined with him being more used to playing in a back 4, rather than back 5 (like JOC) gave him the edge in terms of England selection.

He does point and shout a lot too.

Watch all of the goals Villa have conceded this season. The ones against Brighton and Arsenal were comical defending from Mings.

 

[Kanye]

I'm lead to believe that JOC is currently on Southgate's watchlist and his performances are being closely monitored.

May I ask who led you to believe that?

Not saying you're wrong, just interested is all.

 

[Kanye]

He does point and shout a lot too.

Watch all of the goals Villa have conceded this season. The ones against Brighton and Arsenal were comical defending from Mings.

All players make mistakes: O'Connell's mixup with Egan, at Chelsea, was equally comical.

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

I believe he is of Norweigen descent, but not close enough to represent.

Strong scandavian roots in Liverpool due to sailors. The word 'scouse' comes from Lapskaus/Lobscouse the fisherman's meat stew from Germany/Scandinavia.

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

All players make mistakes: O'Connell's mixup with Egan, at Chelsea, was equally comical.

You've mentioned 1.

Mings directly contributed to 4 goals in his first 6 games.

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

He does point and shout a lot too.

Watch all of the goals Villa have conceded this season. The ones against Brighton and Arsenal were comical defending from Mings.

I've been impressed with Mings whenever I've seen him. He was also very good on his England debut. He has excellent attributes.

Don't like this culture of slagging other players, or looking for negative aspects because we believe one of our players is of similar quality or better. We sometimes need to remove rose tinted spectacles.

Mings is not the type of player blocking JOC's route into the England squad. It is players such as Keane who is not impressing at club level, never-mind international, who get call ups.

 

[jono_t2000]

George Baldock: While his inability to speak the language may be an issue

All he has to do is mumble for a bit, shout Opa at the end and then cheer wildly and he'll be fine.

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

I've been impressed with Mings whenever I've seen him. He was also very good on his England debut. He has excellent attributes.

Don't like this culture of slagging other players, or looking for negative aspects because we believe one of our players is of similar quality or better. We sometimes need to remove rose tinted spectacles.

Mings is not the type of player blocking JOC's route into the England squad. It is players such as Keane who is not impressing at club level, never-mind international, who get call ups.

Mings isn't the type of player blocking his route? How do you work that out?

As for rose tinted spectacles, they're facts. I'm not slagging Mings off for the sake of it, it's just a fact.

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

All he has to do is mumble for a bit, shout Opa at the end and then cheer wildly and he'll be fine.

Isn't that Russian?

 

[Carlton Blade]

I'm lead to believe that JOC is currently on Southgate's watchlist and his performances are being closely monitored.

You could pencil him in, seen as you're made of Lead

 

[Scarebus]

All he has to do is mumble for a bit, shout Opa at the end and then cheer wildly and he'll be fine.

If the Greek lads I work with are anything to go by, just call everyone "Malaka" and constantly pat them on the back.

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

Mings isn't the type of player blocking his route? How do you work that out?

Because both Mings and JOC are better than 2 or 3 of the players that have been called up in recent squads.

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

Because both Mings and JOC are better than 2 or 3 of the players that have been called up in recent squads.

Well, I certainly agree regarding Keane. That selection was mystifying, then he did it again :-o

 

[Kanye]

You've mentioned 1.

Mings directly contributed to 4 goals in his first 6 games.

This isn't a tit for tat competition for who has made the most mistakes this season, nor is it an argument for why O'Connell is better than Mings or vice versa. I'm just saying that no player is infallible, and they all make mistakes.

I obviously havent followed Mings' progress this season as closely as you; which 4 goals, as a direct result of a Mings mistake are you referring to?

 

[Nicolaus_Copernicus]

You could pencil him in, seen as you're made of Lead

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

This isn't a tit for tat competition for who has made the most mistakes this season, nor is it an argument for why O'Connell is better than Mings or vice versa. I'm just saying that no player is infallible, and they all make mistakes.

I obviously havent followed Mings' progress this season as closely as you; which 4 goals, as a direct result of a Mings mistake are you referring to?

Official Opta stats say that Mings has made 2 errors leading to goals (Basham, Henderson, JOC are on 1). Bedarnek at Southampton leads the way on 3.

Really backs up what Wilder said on Monday about individual errors. 3 of the 7 goals we have conceded have been down to these. Makes our defensive performances all the more impressive.

 

[Kanye]

Official Opta stats say that Mings has made 2 errors leading to goals (Basham, Henderson, JOC are on 1). Bedarnek at Southampton leads the way on 3.

Really backs up what Wilder said on Monday about individual errors. 3 of the 7 goals we have conceded have been down to these. Makes our defensive performances all the more impressive.

Absolutely, it's encouraging to know that teams rarely break us down without relying on a defensive mistake.

 

[tincan]

Keep all of our guys well away from the internationals. especially the defense,until we have reliable back ups. A defense of Stears, Keiran, Ben and Jags for the rest of the season, seems a bit weak. Nice as it is for them, we're the priority - no need to add extra games in different systems that risk their fitness.

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

Official Opta stats say that Mings has made 2 errors leading to goals (Basham, Henderson, JOC are on 1). Bedarnek at Southampton leads the way on 3.

Really backs up what Wilder said on Monday about individual errors. 3 of the 7 goals we have conceded have been down to these. Makes our defensive performances all the more impressive.

Henderson has clearly made 2 mistakes, which shows how much note you can take of these stats.

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

Henderson has clearly made 2 mistakes, which shows how much note you can take of these stats.

What was the other one, if one of them is the Liverpool goal? My memory is shot.

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

What was the other one, if one of them is the Liverpool goal? My memory is shot.

The first against Chelsea.

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

The first against Chelsea.

Ah. Tough one to call. Was it a clear and obvious error. Let me check with VAR...

 

[HeCanDoMagic]

Ah. Tough one to call. Was it a clear and obvious error. Let me check with VAR...

Original decision ('Should have done better') stands. No grounds on which to overturn to 'Error leading to goal' status.