Neal Maupay

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NewBee said:
To a reasonably competitive PL club who understand what he can offer and who can guarantee him the most game time.

I say "reasonably", since if went to say, a Huddersfield, then it would be hard to produce your best in a team which is getting humped each week.

But it need not be a club which is guaranteed to stay up, since if he could notch 15+ goals in a team which ultimately got relegated, he'd still be sought after by other PL clubs.

Edit: I couldn't recommend WHU, since their recruitment processes are pure gash. But Villa might be a good choice, since Smith knows him well personally and professionally. Or Sheff U, since I presume Wilder has done his homework and knows exactly what he wants from him.

Of these latter two, I'm not sure which is more likely to survive. Objectively, you'd have to say Villa (sorry), esp if they get Maupay. But as Fulham showed last season, signing loads of big money players won't work if you can't integrate them. Whereas Sheff U seem to be very "together", which could stand for more in any relegation dogfight.
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I think that’s a reasonable assessment
 

Interesting that Villa were slight favourites over us at the weekend , both not much over even money.

Skybet now:

Brighton Favs 5/4
Villa 2/1
Us 4/1
West Hame/Bournemouth 10/1.

Don't think he'll go to brighton. Particularly when they've already spent over 20m.
 
Scooter_mcgavin said:
Interesting that Villa were slight favourites over us at the weekend , both not much over even money.

Skybet now:

Brighton Favs 5/4
Villa 2/1
Us 4/1
West Hame/Bournemouth 10/1.

Don't think he'll go to brighton. Particularly when they've already spent over 20m.
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but if they sell Dunk for £45 Mill....
 
NewBee said:
To a reasonably competitive PL club who understand what he can offer and who can guarantee him the most game time.

I say "reasonably", since if went to say, a Huddersfield, then it would be hard to produce your best in a team which is getting humped each week.

But it need not be a club which is guaranteed to stay up, since if he could notch 15+ goals in a team which ultimately got relegated, he'd still be sought after by other PL clubs.

Edit: I couldn't recommend WHU, since their recruitment processes are pure gash. But Villa might be a good choice, since Smith knows him well personally and professionally. Or Sheff U, since I presume Wilder has done his homework and knows exactly what he wants from him.

Of these latter two, I'm not sure which is more likely to survive. Objectively, you'd have to say Villa (sorry), esp if they get Maupay. But as Fulham showed last season, signing loads of big money players won't work if you can't integrate them. Whereas Sheff U seem to be very "together", which could stand for more in any relegation dogfight.
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Problem with Villa is they're paying loads of money to get the team back that finished below us last season, and they've got a Abraham replacement, but somewhat of a risky one, they're not really improving.

That Man City bloke might be good, but that's the first signing by my count that's not a general maintenance one.

Robinson, Jags, Freeman all take us forward.
 
From the pig end said:
It would have to be quick, RC expects an answer by Wednesday.
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Spending in advance possibly?... i dont see it being Villa at all theyve spent too much and ive genuinly not seen any links with them apart from the fact Dean Sith is in charge. Us v West ham i reckon, maybe the way Wilder can speak about the club and maybe the way West Ham plough through strikers could edge it towards us? i thiink it would be an even bigger coup if we fend off interest from other clubs.
 
There's no debate that SUFC would be the best option footballing wise. He will know that.
 
bromtom said:
Problem with Villa is they're paying loads of money to get the team back that finished below us last season, and they've got a Abraham replacement, but somewhat of a risky one, they're not really improving.

That Man City bloke might be good, but that's the first signing by my count that's not a general maintenance one.

Robinson, Jags, Freeman all take us forward.
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Don’t underestimate Villa, their best signing of last season... Dean Smith. May have taken a while to get going but they looked the real deal by the end of the season. Villas very own version of Wilder. Top manager.
 
Whitby-Blade said:
Don’t underestimate Villa, their best signing of last season... Dean Smith. May have taken a while to get going but they looked the real deal by the end of the season. Villas very own version of Wilder. Top manager.
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Not underestimating, just estimating. Don't see why there business puts them in a better position than ours to be honest that's all. They've spent a lot but on what?

Smith nowhere near as successful historically as Wilder though.
 
NewBee said:
To a reasonably competitive PL club who understand what he can offer and who can guarantee him the most game time.

I say "reasonably", since if went to say, a Huddersfield, then it would be hard to produce your best in a team which is getting humped each week.

But it need not be a club which is guaranteed to stay up, since if he could notch 15+ goals in a team which ultimately got relegated, he'd still be sought after by other PL clubs.

Edit: I couldn't recommend WHU, since their recruitment processes are pure gash. But Villa might be a good choice, since Smith knows him well personally and professionally. Or Sheff U, since I presume Wilder has done his homework and knows exactly what he wants from him.

Of these latter two, I'm not sure which is more likely to survive. Objectively, you'd have to say Villa (sorry), esp if they get Maupay. But as Fulham showed last season, signing loads of big money players won't work if you can't integrate them. Whereas Sheff U seem to be very "together", which could stand for more in any relegation dogfight.
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That's reasonable enough - I think we will be good enough to stay up & villa could be as well. I could very easily see it being Newcastle, Brighton & Norwich going down. Obviously this is just my opinion. For me if Maupay want's to grow as a player & potentially have his next move be a big one, then he should come to us. Wilder will get the absolute best out of him.
 
Whitby-Blade said:
Don’t underestimate Villa, their best signing of last season... Dean Smith. May have taken a while to get going but they looked the real deal by the end of the season. Villas very own version of Wilder. Top manager.
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This season I think Dean Smith will be one of the first Premier League managerial casualties.
 
Scooter_mcgavin said:
Interesting that Villa were slight favourites over us at the weekend , both not much over even money.

Skybet now:

Brighton Favs 5/4
Villa 2/1
Us 4/1
West Hame/Bournemouth 10/1.

Don't think he'll go to brighton. Particularly when they've already spent over 20m.
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Tell KM to put 1m on us at 4/1, then and add that to money already offered. Jobs a gud un.
 

ChipButtyBlade said:
Huddersfield might be humping Brentford this coming season.
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They might, though I seriously doubt it myself.

But in any case, that would be more an argument for leaving BFC than joining a newly relegated Hudds in the Championship.

(On which point, according to Matthew Benham, detailed statistical analysis tells us that newly-relegated teams are almost always overrated, whereas promoted teams are usually underrated. Good news for the Blades, eh?)
 
bromtom said:
Smith nowhere near as successful historically as Wilder though.
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Not in any way detracting from CW's excellent record etc, but Dean is rather closer than "nowhere near" (imo).

What you have to remember is that although there's only 3 years between them in age, Dean was initially happy to be an Assistant/Youth Coach after he stopped playing. CW has therefore been a Head Coach/Manager for a decade longer.

But in the 8 years Dean has been in the top job, he hasn't had a bad spell anywhere, progressing ever upwards from Walsall, to Brentford, to Villa.
 
JL94x4 said:
*yawn*

We moved on from Maupay last Thursday, ffs.
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Neuschwanstein said:
This season I think Dean Smith will be one of the first Premier League managerial casualties.
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You might be right.

But if he is, I suspect it will probably be more down to impatient, unrealistic owners, than any underperformance by him. And at least he should have the fans solidly on his side if/when they hit their first wobble.

And tbf, the fact that the owners have given him so much money is a sign they're backing him, but with what expectations or demands?

There aren't too many owners like eg Burnley, who stood by Dyche even after they were relegated, since they were thinking long-term.

But either way, as s.o. else said earlier, even if Villa struggle, there could well still be three other teams who are even worse.
 
Scooter_mcgavin said:
Worth a guess I suppose. What happened last Thursday?
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I mean, its cool to guess one thing, but multiple? The more guesses you get right the more inconceivable it is that you were guessing.

We moved on from Maupay, it was obvious a deal wasn't gonna be done and moved onto McBurnie, who Wilder sees as a better option in getting a deal done for, rather than wait around for Maupay to decide.. 18m takes him (McBurnie). We've offered 12m+ addons totallig around 15m. Not enough.
 
Scooter_mcgavin said:
They want 20m, we've had 15m turned down but 18m takes him? Are you ITK at Swansea also?
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18m takes him.
SufcBilly said:
So he spoke to Maupay Saturday for what? See if he could recommend any holidays in France?
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He didn't speak to him Saturday, there has been no communications with Maupay since Thursday. We've moved on. Jesus christ.

Also Wilder never spoke to Maupay, but his agent. Same as above.
 
JL94x4 said:
18m takes him.


He didn't speak to him Saturday, there has been no communications with Maupay since Thursday. We've moved on. Jesus christ.

Also Wilder never spoke to Maupay, but his agent. Same as above.
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So we believe you over RC?
 
NewBee said:
Not in any way detracting from CW's excellent record etc, but Dean is rather closer than "nowhere near" (imo).

What you have to remember is that although there's only 3 years between them in age, Dean was initially happy to be an Assistant/Youth Coach after he stopped playing. CW has therefore been a Head Coach/Manager for a decade longer.

But in the 8 years Dean has been in the top job, he hasn't had a bad spell anywhere, progressing ever upwards from Walsall, to Brentford, to Villa.
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He's a good manager, not saying he isn't but I don't think it's outlandish to say Wilder is another level.

Did a bit of non league, bit of assisting (to Alan Knill at Bury), and has had success at every level, like actual success.
 

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