Wilder, not so good with transfer market?’

[Guesty]

Why is James Wilson on twice?

Two James Wilsons. The lower league centre half and the Manchester United loanee alleged striker.

 

[Roygbiv]

There are only 2 people still here from when he came in. When he came in we were 12th in league one. Now we are 3rd in the Championship. I think that says how good his recruitment has been .

I also don't know how you can give crosses to Chapman and Wilson and only ticks for Wright and Clarke!

 

[benn5712]

...and who could blame him?

Christ, I’ve seen some garbage (ahem, differences of opinion) on these boards over the last couple of days, but this one really takes the biscuit, and should be filed under “abject shite”.

It's outrageous GBS. Out-blithering-rageous.

 

[Sheffsteel]

There isn’t a manager on this planet who has even a 70/30% record with signings. 43% and that’s VERY harsh, with our budget is outstanding.

Totally agree, when you’re buying relatively cheap players then by definition the majority should be failures......also a really important factor is that CW seems to give players a chance and if they don’t perform then they tend not to play and he cuts his losses moving them on.

Remember Wilder’s quote regarding his players “i’m loyal but not sentimental”
Basically he doesn’t have favourites and isn’t scared to drop club legend Billy Sharp if his form dips.

 

[BushBlade]

Let’s have it right, he’s a bit shit really. Got lucky inheriting decent Clough signings and Sharpy, who basically runs the first team anyway.

Time for a change. Go for Moyes or Allardyce before they get snapped up. Otherwise the pigs will finish above us.

 

[Snowman]

James Wilson was a success. You can't expect to bring in Championship quality CB's as cover when you are in your 6th Lg1 season. Same with Chapman, Lavery, Brown and Hanson. You don't bring in players out of contract on 6 month deals to start games, they are in as cover, we had no injuries.

You sure you know who you are talking about with James Wilson? Man U show pony?

 

[Rodley]

Neither James Wilson [CB], Harry Chapman, Jay O'shea or Lee Evans were anything like failures, so you can take them from the 43% for a start.

Joe Riley was injured after a couple of appearances, so hardly Wilder's fault.

Kean Bryan hasn't kicked a ball for us yet due to illness and fitness issues.

Oh and how Jake Wright hasn't got a gold star next to him is beyond me quite frankly.

The ratings started badly, tailed off in the middle, and the less said about the end the better. Apart from that he’s bob on.

 

[itsinyerblood]

obviously read so much due to the Madine story, one rule of thumb is trust wilder, he knows what he’s doing! I won’t have a bad word said against him, love everything about him and how we are playing football at the minute. However after thinking about some of his signings I thought I’d rank to see how often he’s not got it right.
I think I’ve been generous with a couple.

James Wilson

Chris Hussey

Jack O'Connell️

John Fleck️

Leon Clarke

Jake Wright

Mark Duffy,️

Caolan Lavery

Harry Chapman

Simon Moore

Ethan Ebanks-Landell

Daniel Lafferty

Reece Brown

Samir Carruthers

James Hanson

Jay O'Shea

Joe Riley

Ched Evans

Nathan Thomas

Enda Stevens️

George Baldock️

Richard Stearman

Jamal Blackman,

John Lundstram

Cameron Carter-Vickers

Clayton Donaldson

Ben Heneghan

Ryan Leonard,

Lee Evans

Ricky Holmes

James Wilson

Dean Henderson️

John Egan️

David McGoldrick️

Ben Woodburn

Kean Bryan

Oliver Norwood.️



=16. 43.25%

=12. 32.45%

️= 9. 24.30%

I know it’s impossible to get every signing right, but 43% failure is not great.

Fingers crossed for the last few pieces of the jigsaw.

This is compared to what?

Your focus on who Wilder has brought in and then released is secondary to achieving promotion in his first season as manager. What followed in the first season back in the Championship gave us a decent chance to compete and see how we'd do against a supposedly higher standard of team, and yes, we fell away but we still learnt a great deal, hence why, in season two in the Championship, we're acquitting ourselves far better than the previous season.

You stick with your quotas about who does and doesn't stay the course, but given what we see on the pitch, how the players are delivering, and the general upswing in our fortunes, and you wish to complain about who has and hasn't made the grade? Somewhere amidst the last few years you seem to have missed the general point that under Wilder we're doing exceptionally well. Maybe no miracles, but you're definitely in a minority when it comes to appreciating what Wilder is doing for the Blades.

 

[blade_ben]

I stopped reading when you put a next to Carruthers

 

[BushBlade]

You sure you know who you are talking about with James Wilson? Man U show pony?

Are you sure you do?

 

[Robboblade1889]

Close this thread down it’s absolutley pathetic!!!! So a few fans don’t like a potential signing so decide to try and pick holes in the best manager we have ever had! You should be fucking ashamed of yourself and any other fan who is trying to force our managers hand because they don’t like a player.

You know something if you don’t like do two things either fuck off and don’t go again or take up a managerial position at a non league club and try to make your way up the ladder to become Sheffield United manager!

These type of threads are an embarrassment and in my opinion the site moderators should shut them down. People like the op will be the first person to spout shit if Wilder left.

Either suck it up or fuck off!!!

 

[IMABLADE]

obviously read so much due to the Madine story, one rule of thumb is trust wilder, he knows what he’s doing! I won’t have a bad word said against him, love everything about him and how we are playing football at the minute. However after thinking about some of his signings I thought I’d rank to see how often he’s not got it right.
I think I’ve been generous with a couple.

James Wilson

Chris Hussey

Jack O'Connell️

John Fleck️

Leon Clarke

Jake Wright

Mark Duffy,️

Caolan Lavery

Harry Chapman

Simon Moore

Ethan Ebanks-Landell

Daniel Lafferty

Reece Brown

Samir Carruthers

James Hanson

Jay O'Shea

Joe Riley

Ched Evans

Nathan Thomas

Enda Stevens️

George Baldock️

Richard Stearman

Jamal Blackman,

John Lundstram

Cameron Carter-Vickers

Clayton Donaldson

Ben Heneghan

Ryan Leonard,

Lee Evans

Ricky Holmes

James Wilson

Dean Henderson️

John Egan️

David McGoldrick️

Ben Woodburn

Kean Bryan

Oliver Norwood.️



=16. 43.25%

=12. 32.45%

️= 9. 24.30%

I know it’s impossible to get every signing right, but 43% failure is not great.

Fingers crossed for the last few pieces of the jigsaw.

You forget the kind of players we used to sign before Wilder

 

[nopigfansintown]

The goal of squad building is to build a successful squad, whilst raising the value of the squad.

On that basis, amazing signings.
Duffy, Fleck, Egan, Stevens, Baldock, Clarke, O'Connell, Norwood, Wright, Mcgoldrick, Henderson, Blackmen, Ebanks Landell. Brooks (brought into first team and signed by Wilder), Moore, Lafferty, Stearman, Donaldson

Good: O' Shea (played vital role of the bench, Hanson (gave us an option of the bench against sides defending deep and narrow), James Wilson (defender: looked good but couldn't dislodge amazing defenders in front of him); Lundstram, Leonard and Lee Evans (doubled our money, so great business); Cameron Carter Vickers, Lavery.

Poor:James Wilson(striker), Hussey, Carruthers (considering rumoured outlay), Ched Evans, Holmes, Thomas, Woodburn, Heneghan.

Not applicable: Chapman (looked excellent before sustaining a serious injury), Bryan (been injured since signing), Riley(suffered serious injury), Brown (removed due to off the field incident).

Conclusion: the league position tells its own story .All those on the poor list with the exception of Carruthers, Wilson and Woodburn were bargain acquisitions at the level we were at.The carruthers inclusion may seem somewhat controversial and he could be considered relatively successful anyway. The value of the squad has increased astronomically, especially when we consider that squad has been subsidised by big sales of Adams, Calvert-Lewin, Ramsdale, Evans, Leonard and Brooks.

 

[GrayBlade]

If you’re bottom fishing, you gather more shit.

And a good number of those signings were quickly moved on for a profit.

I’d rate Wilder’s transfer activity, given the budget, as truly remarkable.

I’m amazed that anyone would argue otherwise.

THIS!^^^

Sure there’s been some players that haven’t made it, but it’s one thing having to money to bring in players that you know will be up to the job and quite a different matter having to recruit players that you HOPE will be able to step up to the mark. The key thing is that when it hasn’t worked out he’s not hung about flogging a dead horse he’s moved them on and replaced them.

And even after saying all that, I still reckon Wilder’s % record of recruiting quality and decent players that will do a good job will stand up against most in this league... even those managers with £millions to spend.

 

[South Bucks]

The fact we have a huge squad and wage bill hides the success/fail rate.

Have enough and eventually enough will come good.

Infinite monkey theorem etc.

Would like to see a higher success rate with smaller numbers of better quality if we are to move forward and not stagnate and not just become a never ending mid table championship club .

 

[wizadry]

The wheeling and dealing of the transfer market is good from Wilder with the budget he has but he has still brought a lot of questionable players in, ones he’s chased for ages and I think that’s what the opening poster is getting at, the reason we are doing so well though is because when Wilder knows he’s made a mistake with a transfer he isn’t stubborn and bins the fuckers off and that’s why he’s as successful as he is. All the stubborn managers fail, it’s that simple. Wilder isn’t stubborn.

 

[nopigfansintown]

The fact we have a huge squad and wage bill hides the success/fail rate.

Have enough and eventually enough will come good.

Infinite monkey theorem etc.

Would like to see a higher success rate with smaller numbers of better quality if we are to move forward and not stagnate and not just become a never ending mid table championship club .

We have a small squad by championship standards.I buy the programme every game and am constantly amazed by the size of other Championship squads compared to ours.

 

[BettingBlade]

Close this thread down it’s absolutley pathetic!!!! So a few fans don’t like a potential signing so decide to try and pick holes in the best manager we have ever had! You should be fucking ashamed of yourself and any other fan who is trying to force our managers hand because they don’t like a player.

You know something if you don’t like do two things either fuck off and don’t go again or take up a managerial position at a non league club and try to make your way up the ladder to become Sheffield United manager!

These type of threads are an embarrassment and in my opinion the site moderators should shut them down. People like the op will be the first person to spout shit if Wilder left.

Either suck it up or fuck off!!!

I mean you might as well shut the entire forum down if you think every op you dont agree with should be shut down.

Think the op has been taken out of context if I'm being honest. Dont think anyone is questioning Wilder's ability as a football manager but no one can deny he has signed a number of players that haven't worked out. Surely you didnt expect people to not question the fact that we may be looking at signing someone like Madine?

 

[Feo]

Not doing too bad

 

[Shirty Blade]

You forget the kind of players we used to sign before Wilder

Hammond, McEverley, Woolford, Sammon, McGahey, Edgar Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

 

[Almosthuman]

This thread makes me sick. CW has us in 3rd 4 points off top.

I could care less about any other factor, transfers, training or anything else. The man deserves 100% faith from fans.

When he makes a signing that doesn’t work he rectifies it.

 

[BigBed]

obviously read so much due to the Madine story, one rule of thumb is trust wilder, he knows what he’s doing! I won’t have a bad word said against him, love everything about him and how we are playing football at the minute. However after thinking about some of his signings I thought I’d rank to see how often he’s not got it right.

I think I’ve been generous with a couple.

James Wilson

Chris Hussey

Jack O'Connell️

John Fleck️

Leon Clarke

Jake Wright

Mark Duffy,️

Caolan Lavery

Harry Chapman

Simon Moore

Ethan Ebanks-Landell

Daniel Lafferty

Reece Brown

Samir Carruthers

James Hanson

Jay O'Shea

Joe Riley

Ched Evans

Nathan Thomas

Enda Stevens️

George Baldock️

Richard Stearman

Jamal Blackman,

John Lundstram

Cameron Carter-Vickers

Clayton Donaldson

Ben Heneghan

Ryan Leonard,

Lee Evans

Ricky Holmes

James Wilson

Dean Henderson️

John Egan️

David McGoldrick️

Ben Woodburn

Kean Bryan

Oliver Norwood.️



=16. 43.25%

=12. 32.45%

️= 9. 24.30%

I know it’s impossible to get every signing right, but 43% failure is not great.

Fingers crossed for the last few pieces of the jigsaw.

Sorry, but you cant rate Bryan with a cross, he plays his first game tomorrow.
That would be like the first time you met your missus, spunking in your jeans the first time you made contact.
Atleast watch play a few times.

And with the budget he's had, I think he's done pretty fucking well!

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

So a few fans don’t like a potential signing so decide to try and pick holes in the best manager we have ever had!

Let's not get carried away.

 

[Robboblade1889]

I mean you might as well shut the entire forum down if you think every op you dont agree with should be shut down.

Think the op has been taken out of context if I'm being honest. Dont think anyone is questioning Wilder's ability as a football manager but no one can deny he has signed a number of players that haven't worked out. Surely you didnt expect people to not question the fact that we may be looking at signing someone like Madine?

Load of tosh people are questioning this great manager because they don’t want a player well boo fucking hoo. He makes the decisions at our club and no no matter what the op says the vast majority have been superb.

Why not have a look at what he has spent and what he has recouped? When you spend a minimum amount of money we do on players there is a higher possibility they won’t work, that’s the way it goes.

It’s the level of questioning the manager has had in the last 48 hours. You know what why not just sit back and see what happens? Do you actually think he is going to listen to a few morons telling anyone who will listen they are not going to go again? It’s absolutely pathetic, same at start of season when the usual voices were out in force at our start.

We have watched the best football in the last two years in a generation because of one man. We are third in the division and people feel the need to spend the time the op has on a post trying to prove Wilder is no good at recruiting players. It’s bullshit and you know what it’s idiots like him that will make him think “fuck em they obviously don’t appreciate anything”.

Let him do his job and we should do our job which is to give the team as much backing as we can no matter who pulls on the shirt it’s not difficult you know.

 

[Robboblade1889]

Let's not get carried away.

The only people getting carried away are the idiots who think they know best. It’s like they will want us to fail if Madine comes in just so they can say told you so Madine is shit.

We have had 48 hours of this crap now and it’s boring. I hope he comes in scores 20 goals and gets us up there I said it.

 

[PokerBlade]

I was going to start a longer response, but then I figured I'd just say that our squad is fucking amazing compared to what it was. I don't have strong enough language when I account for the budget it was assembled for.

 

[SB_90]

Jamal Blackman, Jay O'Shea, Ethan Ebanks-Landell, Simon Moore, Harry Chapman, Jake Wright, Leon Clarke either your too recent on your decisions but the 7 players all deserve to be rated higher

=13. 35.15%
=10. 27.02%
️= 14. 37.83%

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

The only people getting carried away are the idiots who think they know best. It’s like they will want us to fail if Madine comes in just so they can say told you so Madine is shit.

We have had 48 hours of this crap now and it’s boring. I hope he comes in scores 20 goals and gets us up there I said it.

I haven't got a problem with Madine.

Just the bit about Wilder being the best manager we've ever had.

 

[snootyfenooty]

The only people getting carried away are the idiots who think they know best. It’s like they will want us to fail if Madine comes in just so they can say told you so Madine is shit.

We have had 48 hours of this crap now and it’s boring. I hope he comes in scores 20 goals and gets us up there I said it.

Hear fucking hear.

 

[Blade58]

obviously read so much due to the Madine story, one rule of thumb is trust wilder, he knows what he’s doing! I won’t have a bad word said against him, love everything about him and how we are playing football at the minute. However after thinking about some of his signings I thought I’d rank to see how often he’s not got it right.
I think I’ve been generous with a couple.

James Wilson

Chris Hussey

Jack O'Connell️

John Fleck️

Leon Clarke

Jake Wright

Mark Duffy,️

Caolan Lavery

Harry Chapman

Simon Moore

Ethan Ebanks-Landell

Daniel Lafferty

Reece Brown

Samir Carruthers

James Hanson

Jay O'Shea

Joe Riley

Ched Evans

Nathan Thomas

Enda Stevens️

George Baldock️

Richard Stearman

Jamal Blackman,

John Lundstram

Cameron Carter-Vickers

Clayton Donaldson

Ben Heneghan

Ryan Leonard,

Lee Evans

Ricky Holmes

James Wilson

Dean Henderson️

John Egan️

David McGoldrick️

Ben Woodburn

Kean Bryan

Oliver Norwood.️



=16. 43.25%

=12. 32.45%

️= 9. 24.30%

I know it’s impossible to get every signing right, but 43% failure is not great.

Fingers crossed for the last few pieces of the jigsaw.

The thing is CW soon realises when he's dropped a bollock

Where as the Chansir likes to save all his players, calls them his family and then drops the club in the shit with FFP. It's like he's not bothered to read the rule book

This bringing players in malarkey isn't just about signing players. It's a revolving door. Recognising as quickly as possible that a round peg in a square hole doesn't fit. Moving players out. Balancing the books. Juggling the figures, Improving the squad

I think CW and AK have done a fantastic job tbh and to emphasise the point, just think back 2 1/2 seasons and consider our squad under Adkins and tell me different