Incoming? Lee Gregory

[Blade56]

CW is a well known, long term admirer of LG

As he was of Leonard and Holmes

 

[Nick Jansky]

Here's a wacky thought: why don't we just play the striker already on our books who's scored 64 goals in the last 3 seasons rather than pursuing players who aren't demonstrably better than him but will cost a hell of a lot more?

Because 2 of those seasons were in League 1 and age is beginning to catch up with him.

 

[Bladesman]

Here's a wacky thought: why don't we just play the striker already on our books who's scored 64 goals in the last 3 seasons rather than pursuing players who aren't demonstrably better than him but will cost a hell of a lot more?

Nah, It is much better to piss money away on a striker that is of a similar age and has a poorer goal scoring record.

 

[Revolution]

Because 2 of those seasons were in League 1 and age is beginning to catch up with him.

What is the evidence for this? People keep saying it but what I see is someone who had a bad day at Brentford and got messed about a lot in selection terms after Christmas.

It's a self fulfilling prophecy. He doesn't score as many because Wilder isn't picking him.

Dropping him for a frequently injured player who hasn't scored double figures in 5 seasons is silly imho.

 

[Mouth of the South]

I agree - it would be boring if we all thought the same.

I’d certainly support him if we brought him in and I know the millwall fans do really rate him. I’m just concerned with the potential outlay and that he’s the level of quality we need to progress.

I just had hoped given the money available (CW himself said we have touched the Brooks money yet) we have been able to sort it a definite improvement and long term solution.

I’d be happy if it was LG and a quality attacking midfielder however.

Yep, all relevant points BiL. However, as a reality check, it's probably worth remembering that we're currently unable to afford Martyn Waghorn. Therefore better options, especially younger ones, will also be beyond our means.

Assuming blowing the bank on someone is not a viable option, the only remaining alternatives appear to be:

- lower targets to strikers to the level of Gregory, Windass etc
- take a risk on a younger, unproven striker (Harrison, Eisa)
- opt for a loan.

Not an easy dilemma for CW and his team. and a challenge ahead to land someone by Thurs (ideally) or by the end of Aug if not given a new striker (or 2) has been the priority for some time now.

 

[Th!stledo]

As with all our three main strikers, I am sure there is faith in their capabilities. But doubts are with their fitness to do ninety minutes twice a week. We do need bodies in, or people like Lavery to step up to the plate. Loans till the January window would seem the most sensible path, rather than the 'headless chicken' signing of players on long contracts?

 

[Bladeinleeds]

Yep, all relevant points BiL. However, as a reality check, it's probably worth remembering that we're currently unable to afford Martyn Waghorn. Therefore better options, especially younger ones, will also be beyond our means.

Assuming blowing the bank on someone is not a viable option, the only remaining alternatives appear to be:

- lower targets to strikers to the level of Gregory, Windass etc
- take a risk on a younger, unproven striker (Harrison, Eisa)
- opt for a loan.

Not an easy dilemma for CW and his team. and a challenge ahead to land someone by Thurs (ideally) or by the end of Aug if not given a new striker (or 2) has been the priority for some time now.

I’d be tempted by the resale value / potential of a younger player.

We know Gregory’s limit / celing. We don’t of an untapped youngster. If he’s a hit they propell us forward and or get sold for a huge profit. Look at the guy Brentford bought from Plymouth.... if there a miss we can still recoup some money selling on to a league one side someone willing to gamble.

 

[robbiez666]

He's solid but no better than we've got. We have 3 extremely experienced older strikers at the club. It's surely the perfect opportunity to sign a younger striker who can develop and learn from them? That would also mean that the current personnel are not just simply going to be pushed down the pecking order.

 

[Mouth of the South]

I’d be tempted by the resale value / potential of a younger player.

We know Gregory’s limit / celing. We don’t of an untapped youngster. If he’s a hit they propell us forward and or get sold for a huge profit. Look at the guy Brentford bought from Plymouth.... if there a miss we can still recoup some money selling on to a league one side someone willing to gamble.

Yep, the possible benefits are there should the player blossom, although I'm sure some would still moan about Utd always sell their best players. However, there is certainly no guarantee they'll be able to do so. I can't think of someone off the top of my head from L1 or below who I'd be confident in coming in and doing a job this season.

I hear Utd were keen on Watkins before he joined Brentford but were again priced out. Pity as I think he'll be a good player. Given the silly prices over the summer, I wonder how much more than the ~£2m he went for last year he'd have gone for this year.

 

[Davalon]

What we'd have to pay now to get Gregory would be a fucking joke based on what he could reasonably achieve for us.

He won't make us a top 6 team or even top 12 team ahead of what we have, and we certainly don't need him to stave off relegation.

Stay well clear.

 

[Mouth of the South]

What we'd have to pay now to get Gregory would be a fucking joke based on what he could reasonably achieve for us.

He won't make us a top 6 team or even top 12 team ahead of what we have, and we certainly don't need him to stave off relegation.

Stay well clear.

Realistically, who would you prefer Utd to sign Davalon given the ridiculous prices for players this summer, particularly strikers??

 

[Kevincarterversion2.0]

Rather predictable rumour/interest given his Blades connections. I am also unsure whether he is better than what we have.

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

Realistically, who would you prefer Utd to sign Davalon given the ridiculous prices for players this summer, particularly strikers??

Rather than spend stupid money for the sake of it, I'd rather sign nobody. It will only put us in a worse position financially without any guarantee of improvement.

 

[Pinchy]

Here's a wacky thought: why don't we just play the striker already on our books who's scored 64 goals in the last 3 seasons rather than pursuing players who aren't demonstrably better than him but will cost a hell of a lot more?

Bladey Blade backs Bladey Bill shocker.

 

[Mouth of the South]

Rather than spend stupid money for the sake of it, I'd rather sign nobody. It will only put us in a worse position financially without any guarantee of improvement.

So play until Jan with 3 strikers, one of which being McGoldrick who has suffered a number of injuries over recent seasons?

Going back down to L1 will put the club in a far worse financial position than signing an additional striker

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

So play until Jan with 3 strikers, one of which being McGoldrick who has suffered a number of injuries over recent seasons?

Going back down to L1 will put the club in a far worse financial position than signing an additional striker

If you're just after the numbers, then again, there's far better options than signing another guy approaching the twilight of his career that's going to demand a decent fee and wages who I don't believe will do that much.

 

[SteveBlade]

I'm sure he'd bag close to ten goals, but so could our other strikers. We need something different up front to complement what we already have.

No thanks.

 

[Mouth of the South]

If you're just after the numbers, then again, there's far better options than signing another guy approaching the twilight of his career that's going to demand a decent fee and wages who I don't believe will do that much.

So, again, you'd prefer to play through to Jan with just 3 strikers? Gregory is 29 not 36. Hasn't a 33 year old just been transferred for €100m?

Who would you class as a "far better option"?

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

So, again, you'd prefer to play through to Jan with just 3 strikers? Gregory is 29 not 36. Hasn't a 33 year old just been transferred for €100m?

I don't think Gregory has the same global appeal as Ronaldo, so where that comparison comes from I've no idea.

I didn't say I'd prefer it, I said I don't see the point in panic buying players who I don't believe will add anything only numbers.

 

[Pinchy]

I didn't say I'd prefer it, I said I don't see the point in panic...

This may be amateur psychoanalysis, but do you ever get the feeling you just don’t fit in?

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

This may be amateur psychoanalysis, but do you ever get the feeling you just don’t fit in?

I'd never settled for Amateur status Pinchy.

 

[Mouth of the South]

I don't think Gregory has the same global appeal as Ronaldo, so where that comparison comes from I've no idea.

I didn't say I'd prefer it, I said I don't see the point in panic buying players who I don't believe will add anything only numbers.

Sorry but I quote, "Rather than spend stupid money for the sake of it, I'd rather sign nobody".

You stated Gregory is approaching the "twilight of his career". I was simply highlighting the point that at 29 and barring serious injury, he will have plenty of football left in him. I used the example of Ronaldo being sold recently to demonstrate that the fee for Gregory won't necessarily be written off.

Again, who do you feel would be a '"far better option"?

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

Sorry but I quote, "Rather than spend stupid money for the sake of it, I'd rather sign nobody".

You stated Gregory is approaching the "twilight of his career". I was simply highlighting the point that at 29 and barring serious injury, he will have plenty of football left in him. I used the example of Ronaldo being sold recently to demonstrate that the fee for Gregory won't necessarily be written off.

Again, who do you feel would be a '"far better option"?

I don't rate Gregory any better than what we have, it's really that simple. When they were a league 1 club and we were sniffing, they were wanting 3m for him. How much do you reckon that's going to be now?

I'd rather see us go in for Armstrong, who I believe will cost less and at 21 has a far greater potential re-sale value.

 

[Pinchy]

I'd never settled for Amateur status Pinchy.

I understand, but suggesting ‘no panic’ on here is rather like telling a bunch of red necks their president is a buffoon.

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

I understand, but suggesting ‘no panic’ on here is rather like telling a bunch of red necks their president is a buffoon.

Unless it's Hilary Clinton

 

[Mouth of the South]

I don't rate Gregory any better than what we have, it's really that simple. When they were a league 1 club and we were sniffing, they were wanting 3m for him. How much do you reckon that's going to be now?

I'd rather see us go in for Armstrong, who I believe will cost less and at 21 has a far greater potential re-sale value.

Is that the same Armstrong who has twice failed at Champ level?

No idea about Gregory's value - I think he's in the final year of his current deal but players, particularly strikers are at a premium now. If CW wants him he's going to have to pay over the odds given his inability to recruit a striker before now

 

[Scooter_mcgavin]

Is that the same Armstrong who has twice failed at Champ level?

No idea about Gregory's value - I think he's in the final year of his current deal but players, particularly strikers are at a premium now. If CW wants him he's going to have to pay over the odds given his inability to recruit a striker before now

My issue is, in order to get someone like Gregory's services we'd have to offer a 3/4 year deal. I just don't see the point. We've been lumbered with these situations before.

Fair enough if we were getting him on a Pre-contract agreement or something, but when you're buying a player, you don't tend of offer 1/2 year deals.

 

[Blade58]

How many Millwall players is CW chasing?

I make it 3 to date

Lee Gregory in my humble opinion is not a player I see "taking Sheffield Utd to the next level"

Another 30 year old (this month)

 

[Adiroy]

I can see where some are coming from its getting to a point now where id rather us just loan a youngen from a premier league club.. no re-sale value but also no massive transfer outlay in a market what is obviously at the moment complete madness!

Wont be the most favoured senario on here but id rather us be sensible than waste money on a 5th or 6th target in a panic buy if that is the case!

 

[JosteinTime]

Luke Freeman started his playing days at Arsenal as a striker (or at least a second striker). Wonder how he’d fair being pushed further up.

I do believe we have goals in Sharp & Clarke at this level, but they need delivery very high up the pitch because they can’t beat defenders over the top, or from deep. So we need the likes of Fleck & Duffy to work the ball into the right positions.

Im afraid pace, finishing and strength come at a very high premium and we don’t have the budget for it at this level. Unearthing a gem from youth and/or the lower leagues & loans is probably what we should be looking at - think Che Adams, Jamie Murphy ... but we usually have to go through a lot of Marc McNulty’s and Lyle Taylor’s for that. (Although I’d have Taylor back as an option these days).

LG is not the answer, it’s just more of the same.