CONFIRMED David McGoldrick Signs

[BridBladesman]

Apologies if already mentioned

 

[Stretch]

So not worried at all that the team are out on the lash? They are athletes and are supposed to be on pre-season training working up to peak match fitness, not on holiday. How many other top level teams do you think would be out on the beers on their pre-season tour? Smacks of being very amateur. Think this is where Wilder shows he is a bit too old school and trying to hard to be one of the lads rather than a top level manager. Yes I know team bonding blah blah, but seriously this is surely not the best way to prepare for the season, fighting or not.

No I am not worried. Many players drink pre and during the season, not just ours and this happened when we were still 4 weeks from our first competitive game. For all we know CW probably sanctioned one last blow out or maybe he didn't and they have all been roasted for it since? I honestly don't know but I do trust him to have the team fit and ready for kick off when the season starts. I am not sure why anyone would doubt that he will do this?
Apart from being a famously tough task master in training he is also a big believer in the team letting their hair down and bonding over a drink. Don't forget his now legendary stop off at the offy after we lost to Millwall at the start of the 16/17 season. The lads all had a few beers and told each other a few home truths. We never looked back.
He also went public to say that the team was on the lash practically every day after promotion was confirmed In Northampton, until the end of the season. We still went up at Champions and got 100 points.

 

[LJBlade]

Does Wilder even know? Him and Knill weren't out.
And if he does I doubt it's something he's going to spout about on radio sheffield.

Know who?

 

[Lowen]

must be Brooks replacement then.

 

[Rodley]

Fact- in a group of blokes, some will get on, some will be best mates, some will hate others, some will tolerate!
When there’s a bit of booze in there, the tolerate and get on options are removed.
Leaving mates and those they hate. And it’s when things get ugly.

It’s the same at every club/workplace in the land.
The next day, the adults get their heads together, agree to disagree, remain professional and carry on as that’s their job.
The kids carry it on, affect the job of themselves and others and are eventually sacked/moved on to be someone else’s problem.

But it’s always sorted one way or the other.

Can’t see a problem with this

 

[LoughboroBlade]

So not worried at all that the team are out on the lash? They are athletes and are supposed to be on pre-season training working up to peak match fitness, not on holiday. How many other top level teams do you think would be out on the beers on their pre-season tour? Smacks of being very amateur. Think this is where Wilder shows he is a bit too old school and trying to hard to be one of the lads rather than a top level manager. Yes I know team bonding blah blah, but seriously this is surely not the best way to prepare for the season, fighting or not.

Really? They got the beers in during the season, prior to us going on a brilliant run that ultimately saw us absolutely dominate League 1.

 

[Booker4]

It might not be Sam Gallagher but we've only offered him a trial and if he wants to be with us and Wilder wants him than that's good enough for me. I remember the draw with Walsall back in 2002 at home in the second game of the season having lost the first to Coventry away. We were losing 2 - 1 I recall and on came the Chief off the bench to a chorus of boos! That season didn't work out too badly did it?!

There's some gems out there and a fit David McGoldrick is possibly one of them.

Getting a bit sick of chasing players desperate to stay on the highest wage they can, rather than play football - at least that's how it seems from the outside.

 

[CrookesBlade]

Really? They got the beers in during the season, prior to us going on a brilliant run that ultimately saw us absolutely dominate League 1.

Some people are absolutely frothing at the mouth to push this hot take that Wilder is promoting a heavy drinking culture within the club.

 

[Blade for Sale]

Really? They got the beers in during the season, prior to us going on a brilliant run that ultimately saw us absolutely dominate League 1.

There's a difference between a few beers on the coach to bond a team that was clearly at a low ebb, and going out and getting slaughtered though. And with hindsight, that side was so far above the rest of the division it as almost unfair. We are swimming in a different pond now, and there is a massive body of evidence to support the conclusion that alcohol limits the capacity of elite athletes. I'm not jumping to any conclusions over how much has been imbibed by Blades players during pre-season by the way, but it's not unreasonable to be concerned that a manager such as Wilder, love him as I do, might turn too much of a blind eye to something like this.

 

[Oldun]

Some people are absolutely frothing at the mouth to push this hot take that Wilder is promoting a heavy drinking culture within the club.

Nope. Just worried that he is not creating an elite athlete culture.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

There's a difference between a few beers on the coach to bond a team that was clearly at a low ebb, and going out and getting slaughtered though. And with hindsight, that side was so far above the rest of the division it as almost unfair. We are swimming in a different pond now, and there is a massive body of evidence to support the conclusion that alcohol limits the capacity of elite athletes. I'm not jumping to any conclusions over how much has been imbibed by Blades players during pre-season by the way, but it's not unreasonable to be concerned that a manager such as Wilder, love him as I do, might turn too much of a blind eye to something like this.

If it clearly has a detrimental impact on our early season results I’d agree with you. We’re not there yet. It’s a bit like saying Wilder’s got his transfer dealings all wrong this summer – it is too early to say that. I’m sure weekly booze-feats are not helpful to the performance of the squad. One virtually at the start of pre-season I doubt will have that much of an impact.

Also, none of that L1 title-winning season was a given, and I’m amazed at the suggestion that it was. After those early results you had many questioning whether we were capable of getting in the top 6, let alone running away with it.

As for different pond, Leicester City got into far worse bother (genuinely stuff that was completely unacceptable) and proceeded to win the Premier League that season.

 

[Jon P]

Conversations like the ones on this thread is exactly why I haven’t logged into this forum for 6 months. Thought I’d pop back to see if there was any transfer rumours, instead we’ve got people going at each others throat and it takes you 5 pages to get back to the point of the thread.

 

[ben1987]

I thought he looked decent last season.

If this trial is with a view to him suplimenting billy Leon and a 'bigger/main' signing then I would be happy with those 4 striker options whoever the main man turns out to be.

 

[robbiez666]

If we're only, as suggested, having 4 strikers, then I think signing him could potentially be a dangerous gamble. If he's coming in as an extra striker, for a season, then great. He's much better than anyone bar Sharp and Clarke.

One of our strikers needs to be younger and on a permanent though. If not, we'll be in trouble next pre-season. We can't be in a portion bext season having to replace 4 strikers and 2 attacking midfielders.

 

[Maidenhead]

Because that's the reason we keep getting from the press. 'Wages are high' 'wages are a stumbling block' 'doesn't fit within the wage budget'.

The reasons listed are much more boring than making a quip at our inability to spend what is the going rate if you ask me.

So we can't match the "going rate" at the top end.

What's your problem?

If you can't do anything practical about just chill out and enjoy your summer instead, or you'll be worrying yourself into an early grave.

 

[Bladeinleeds]

If we're only, as suggested, having 4 strikers, then I think signing him could potentially be a dangerous gamble. If he's coming in as an extra striker, for a season, then great. He's much better than anyone bar Sharp and Clarke.

One of our strikers needs to be younger and on a permanent though. If not, we'll be in trouble next pre-season. We can't be in a portion bext season having to replace 4 strikers and 2 attacking midfielders.

Agree on the youth - even without mcgoldrick we are at the point where in the next few of years you’d imagine

Sharp, Clarke, Duffy, Holmes will all need to be replaced with younger models. That’s basically all our current first team forward line on the books....

Be nice to have a succession plan in place and some young blood brought in to freshen things up. That said I’be no issues at all taking mcgoldrick on a cheap deal to see how he gets on - decent when fit imo.

 

[wizadry]

Those of you discussing David McGoldrick, could you please stop curtailing the thread, thanks!

 

[robbiez666]

Agree on the youth - even without mcgoldrick we are at the point where in the next few of years you’d imagine

Sharp, Clarke, Duffy, Holmes will all need to be replaced with younger models. That’s basically all our current first team forward line on the books....

Be nice to have a succession plan in place and some young blood brought in to freshen things up. That said I’be no issues at all taking mcgoldrick on a cheap deal to see how he gets on - decent when fit imo.

Planning is key, and with the likes of Thomas and Heneghan he's tried, but it's difficult to do on our budget. Keeper is a worry as well. We need to sign someone permanently next season. In a perfect world we'd at least bring in a striker and attacking midfielder this summer.

 

[Dutch Blade]

Looks solid as a back-up striker and his numbers are not that bad.

But in my opinion, we really need a quick striker. Pace is so important in games where we lead by 1 and get space on the counter attack. Current strikers just don't have that.

 

[blades78]

McGoldrick is an improvement on Donaldson, Ched, Hanson, Wilson and Lavery. I'd take him if fit.

 

[Topplayersleave]

And what does Wilder say, you know, the one who knows the budget he has to work with and will identify and go for the targets? Oh yeah, that hes happy with the budget. So we go for a player wilder likes, wilder decides his wages do not offer value for money so he moves on to other targets, but this apparently is not good enough for you and he should pay the quoted, just because you think he is the one and only saviour and without him we will surely be relegated. Give over. Such sandy vagina drama queens honestly. You and Topplayersleave should go for a drink somewhere together, preferably without internet access.

Yes, we should all shut up and clap like a demented seal as our boardroom deliver failure after failure.

Then when a good manager comes along every 15 years or so and delivers a spark of something to hang onto against all the odds, we should all clap some more as the boardroom makes a complete and utter fuck up of it all

 

[S5Blade]

Yes, we should all shut up and clap like a demented seal as our boardroom deliver failure after failure.

Then when a good manager comes along every 15 years or so and delivers a spark of something to hang onto against all the odds, we should all clap some more as the boardroom makes a complete and utter fuck up of it all

Ive got to agree with you sausage, the last 2 years, abject failure. Getting to the premier league, abject failure, semi final at wembley, one of the best day's out ever, abject failure.

Deary me.

 

[Booker4]

Yes, we should all shut up and clap like a demented seal as our boardroom deliver failure after failure.

Then when a good manager comes along every 15 years or so and delivers a spark of something to hang onto against all the odds, we should all clap some more as the boardroom makes a complete and utter fuck up of it all

I get your frustration but ultimately we're at a crossroads with the ownership and if you're expecting United to spend millions then I think you're supporting the wrong club. Many a club have spent much more than us and still achieved very little. I prefer to cherish our current squad and look forward to more players who Wilder will have signed for all the right reasons.

 

[BigBed]

Even if we spent the entire £12m Brooks fee on the players we needed we wouldn't be able to look anywhere but the damaged goods shelf. You don't get proven Championship players on that budget.

Hogan, Gallagher are both on that damaged shelf, its the best we can possibly hope for, so why some are setting their expectations higher I don't know.

I've set mine low, I'm still looking out for us getting Rhodes on a rebound loan.

 

[wizadry]

McGoldrick is an improvement on Donaldson, Ched, Hanson, Wilson and Lavery. I'd take him if fit.

The thing is though my initial impression is that I don’t think he is an improvement on Donaldson, especially regards his fitness issues and recent goalscoring stats. I’ve not checked but I reckon Donaldson’s goalscoring stats in the last few seasons are better than McGoldricks and Donaldson is older?

I’ll always give players a chance once they grace our turf but if we want to show any sort of ambition whatsoever then there must be better options out there?

Having thought about this for a bit I reckon we should wait and see how his fitness bares up first though, as you quite rightly point out, before we think he could be any improvement on what’s gone before us because for me, as it stands, he isn’t much of an upgrade on Donaldson, if any at all but it looks like I’m in a minority on this one.

 

[sheffielder]

The thing is though my initial impression is that I don’t think he is an improvement on Donaldson, especially regards his fitness issues and recent goalscoring stats. I’ve not checked but I reckon Donaldson’s goalscoring stats in the last few seasons are better than McGoldricks and Donaldson is older?

I’ll always give players a chance once they grace our turf but if we want to show any sort of ambition whatsoever then there must be better options out there?

Having thought about this for a bit I reckon we should wait and see how his fitness bares up first though, as you quite rightly point out, before we think he could be any improvement on what’s gone before us because for me, as it stands, he isn’t much of an upgrade on Donaldson, if any at all but it looks like I’m in a minority on this one.

The fact it’s a loan makes me think that McGoldrick maybe isn’t in the top 4 or 5 targets. If most targets become unreachable by the end of the week maybe we have someone we’ve had a free look at

 

[Topplayersleave]

Ive got to agree with you sausage, the last 2 years, abject failure. Getting to the premier league, abject failure, semi final at wembley, one of the best day's out ever, abject failure.

Deary me.

We got promoted to the premier League 12 years ago, due to hard work, endeavour, hoof ball, lack of talent but extreme hard graft and a manager that succeeded in spite of the boardrooms small time shit. But we didn't stay there mainly because we spent on the entire team the same as struggling Premier League clubs were spending on one player.

Semi Final was a good day out if that's what you considered it to be...………..Typical Unitedite.
I on the other hand was gutted we lost, I'm sure I'm in the minority because it was a greaayyyyttt dahhy aahhht ........ but hey ho.

These are things I take for granted and even demand from a football club in the fourth largest city in the Country.
And I demand them often, not once in a blue moon.

There is no other football club from a city the size of Sheffield ANYWHERE IN WORLD FOOTBALL that has given it's fans so little in return. NOT ONE SINGLE MAJOR CITY FOOTBALL CLUB ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD...……….Now just think about that.

Even if we hadn't won anything a reasonable continued stay in Englands top division for longer than two minutes would at least be something...….But No

There is a very definite recurring theme here and if you stopped to think about it for a minute instead of blindly slagging off anyone who realises what the recurring theme is you might actually learn just how shit the people that have run this football club for the last million years have been.

 

[wizadry]

The fact it’s a loan makes me think that McGoldrick maybe isn’t in the top 4 or 5 targets. If most targets become unreachable by the end of the week maybe we have someone we’ve had a free look at

Can’t argue with that other than I thought he’d been released?

My point is that how can someone who hasn’t kicked a ball for some time be an improvement on someone like Donaldson who has?

 

[Topplayersleave]

I get your frustration but ultimately we're at a crossroads with the ownership and if you're expecting United to spend millions then I think you're supporting the wrong club. Many a club have spent much more than us and still achieved very little. I prefer to cherish our current squad and look forward to more players who Wilder will have signed for all the right reasons.

There is no club of a similar size that has achieved as little.
They might all have their bad days as well, but there is always something on the horizon for certain other clubs of a certain size.
Maybe that's why their support is much more accepting when things aren't going so well

 

[Booker4]

We got promoted to the premier League 12 years ago, due to hard work, endeavour, hoof ball, lack of talent but extreme hard graft and a manager that succeeded in spite of the boardrooms small time shit. But we didn't stay there mainly because we spent on the entire team the same as struggling Premier League clubs were spending on one player.

Semi Final was a good day out if that's what you considered it to be...………..Typical Unitedite.
I on the other hand was gutted we lost, I'm sure I'm in the minority because it was a greaayyyyttt dahhy aahhht ........ but hey ho.

These are things I take for granted and even demand from a football club in the fourth largest city in the Country.
And I demand them often, not once in a blue moon.

There is no other football club from a city the size of Sheffield ANYWHERE IN WORLD FOOTBALL that has given it's fans so little in return. NOT ONE SINGLE MAJOR CITY FOOTBALL CLUB ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD...……….Now just think about that.

Even if we hadn't won anything a reasonable continued stay in Englands top division for longer than two minutes would at least be something...….But No

There is a very definite recurring theme here and if you stopped to think about it for a minute instead of blindly slagging off anyone who realises what the recurring theme is you might actually learn just how shit the people that have run this football club for the last million years have been.

But then as a comparison look at Leeds and how they've done nothing since they were relegated in 2004. Look at Wednesday too. They've spent millions and look at how they are and Forest haven't come close to promotion back to the Prem and we stopped them in 2004. I agree we have sold our players too often and not for enough money and at times we could have spent more - ideally - but also I think we've done better than some so called bigger clubs to.