CONFIRMED David McGoldrick Signs

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I'd be happy with McGoldrick. Had a good season with Ipswich and looked good at the Lane.

There are some doubts there about fitness, but that's what the trial is for. If we go for him, I'm sure he will be given an appropriate contract like Donaldson was, should it not work out.
 
S64 Blade said:
I'd be happy with McGoldrick. Had a good season with Ipswich and looked good at the Lane.

There are some doubts there about fitness, but that's what the trial is for. If we go for him, I'm sure he will be given an appropriate contract like Donaldson was, should it not work out.
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If we got 2 first choice strikers + DM that'd be a great set of strikers we'd have.
 
He's better than Donaldson - but he hasn't scored more than 7 goals in the championship since 2014... Not exactly solving our goalscoring problem.
 
S64 Blade said:
I'd be happy with McGoldrick. Had a good season with Ipswich and looked good at the Lane.

There are some doubts there about fitness, but that's what the trial is for. If we go for him, I'm sure he will be given an appropriate contract like Donaldson was, should it not work out.
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Far, far too sensible.

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Eric Cartman said:
He's better than Donaldson - but he hasn't scored more than 7 goals in the championship since 2014... Not exactly solving our goalscoring problem.
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Not on his own, but Tufty is after two more as well. Have you not heard?
 
Eric Cartman said:
Why are we after players that we know have wages beyond our reach then?
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How do we know what they are on without enquiring? Bravado, blagging agents, internet messageboards can all come up with a different amount even on the same player
 
I think we were the 6th lowest budget last season - I remember Wilder referring to this. Its fair to assume that we've increased this for the forthcoming season but still likely to be behind the big hitters and therefore we're in a disadvantage from signing players on wages above our own - obviously. But I fully trust in Wilder to still get decent players in but not necessarily the ones we hope for.
 

Eric Cartman said:
Why are we after players that we know have wages beyond our reach then?
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Firstly: we dont know exactly who our targets are, we only hear speculation.

Secondly: You don't know if a players wage demands are beyond you until you speak to them, which comes after negotiating a price with a club.
 
Chali 2na said:
Firstly: we dont know exactly who our targets are, we only hear speculation.

Secondly: You don't know if a players wage demands are beyond you until you speak to them, which comes after negotiating a price with a club.
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You know sort of what wage they’re on. Scott Hogan and Sam Gallagher are clearly on more than 20k - that was blindingly obvious.
 
HeCanDoMagic said:
Why presume we are?

Perhaps more work goes into transfers than you think.
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Hogan and Gallagher are the two main ones and there’s no smoke without fire regards to them two. Their wages were always going to be above our wage ceiling that we’ve put up so why even bother trying to sign them?
 
Eric Cartman said:
You know sort of what wage they’re on. Scott Hogan and Sam Gallagher are clearly on more than 20k - that was blindingly obvious.
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You've just assumed, based on speculation, that they are/were our targets, haven't you?

Also, in my estimation, either signing would be a loan move, making the financial contribution to their wages up for negotiation.
 
Eric Cartman said:
Hogan and Gallagher are the two main ones and there’s no smoke without fire regards to them two. Their wages were always going to be above our wage ceiling that we’ve put up so why even bother trying to sign them?
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Because perhaps groundwork was done beforehand, which indicated wages could be sorted one way or another.

And I can just envisage what would happen if Gallagher had signed for another Championship club, "Why weren't we in for him" blah blah blah.

All too predictable.
 
Chali 2na said:
You've just assumed, based on speculation, that they are/were our targets, haven't you?

Also, in my estimation, either signing would be a loan move, making the financial contribution to their wages up for negotiation.
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No... both Alan Nixon and Danny from the star have confirmed Gallagher, Nixon has confirmed Hogan. There has been no reports to the contrary.

It’s a fair point about wages of them being loans - however if Hogan is on the reported 35k they’ll want more than half paying or they might as well keep him.
 
HeCanDoMagic said:
Because perhaps groundwork was done beforehand, which indicated wages could be sorted one way or another.

And I can just envisage what would happen if Gallagher had signed for another Championship club, "Why weren't we in for him" blah blah blah.

All too predictable.
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Perhaps, perhaps not. There’s no way Villa offload Scott Hogan for say half his wages when they can’t afford a replacement. They’ll either keep him or sell him for a cut price if they can’t get someone to loan him and pay the majority of his wages.

But we were in for him? What’s your point?
 
Eric Cartman said:
Perhaps, perhaps not. There’s no way Villa offload Scott Hogan for say half his wages when they can’t afford a replacement. They’ll either keep him or sell him for a cut price if they can’t get someone to loan him and pay the majority of his wages.

But we were in for him? What’s your point?
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Because you said we shouldn't be in for them at all because of the wages. And woud that have been the case, and they had moved to other clubs, we would have been lambasted for not been in for them.
 
Eric Cartman said:
No... both Alan Nixon and Danny from the star have confirmed Gallagher, Nixon has confirmed Hogan. There has been no reports to the contrary.
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Confirmed speculation then?

Without wanting to deride Alan Nixon or the Star, I tend to take their reports/articles/comments with a pinch of salt: they're often wrong.

It’s a fair point about wages of them being loans - however if Hogan is on the reported 35k they’ll want more than half paying or they might as well keep him.
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I'll admit that the Hogan one seemed strange to me too, if we were indeed after him, it's very ambitious.
If he is on £35k and Villa agree to loan him out while paying 50% of his wages, then at £17.5k I would say he would be earning a similar ammount to our current top earners - not an impossible signing, though highly improbable IMO.
 
Chali 2na said:
Confirmed speculation then?

Without wanting to deride Alan Nixon or the Star, I tend to take their reports/articles/comments with a pinch of salt: they're often wrong.

I'll admit that the Hogan one seemed strange to me too, if we were indeed after him, it's very ambitious.
If he is on £35k and Villa agree to loan him out while paying 50% of his wages, then at £17.5k I would say he would be earning a similar ammount to our current top earners - not an impossible signing, though highly improbable IMO.
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So do we have to wait for Wilder to confirm we're after a player now before assuming it's true? Even if it's within the local and national press, from seperate sources?

Hogan is very much improbable to me too unless he's desperate to leave a sinking ship and will leave at a cut price. I assume he won't however.
I was impressed when we were linked but I knew this would be beyond our budget in terms of wages - he'd be a brilliant signing.
Someone on the other thread keeps telling me he's below average, and we could get better - no we couldn't. Villa is a graveyard for strikers who's names aren't Jonathan or Kodjia and even he had a hellish season last year.

They've destroyed Ross McCormack, Scott Hogan, Libor Kozak and even now Kodjia since they've been in this division. And Lewis Grabban scored more in 5 months at relegated Sunderland than at Villa.

I'd take all of them in a heartbeat.
 

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