Good decision to sell Ramsdale

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Chali 2na said:
So what would "a decent career at the appropriate level" be for George Long? (Baring in mind he's already a 1st team regular at L1 level, playing well and yet to enter his 'peak')
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Right where he is. Anywhere but United, to be honest. GLTTL.
 



Pinchy said:
No. Often enough though, to see that he lacked all the basics and that his poor play was not down to lack of experience or confidence but simply because he was an awful keeper. I hope he’s improved enormously and has a decent career at the appropriate level. There’s nothing personal but I don’t pretend he’s better than he is because of his place of birth or which team he supports. You see I’m a Blade; not Bladey.

It’s only a matter of time before the Little Louis Lot get another head of steam up, isn’t it?

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Louis will be back at the Lane next season challenging for a midfield spot
 
mosbolad said:
Well it's not exactly it is it.

Young players make more mistakes than older players.

Mistakes for keepers cost goals.

Mistakes from outfield players usually don't cost goals.

It may be that a young player makes mistakes because he isn't up to it, (plenty aren't) but it may equally be that they ARE good enough but are making mistakes through inexperience.
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All GK's make mistakes. Calamity James made a living out of it. Then there's Grobbelar and a succession of Man U goalies. But their frequent match saving brilliance outweighed this. Long doesn't have this part in his repertoire, that's the difference.
 
PittsburghBlade said:
and yet time and time again proved out of his depth in situations that cost him his place in the team and the squad, routine errors and a lack of breeding confidence can have a massive effect on the whole team not just how many goals you concede.
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I think the tossers who got on his back did his head in.
Goalkeeping a confidence thing
 
He has looked very very poor in the two highlights I’ve seen of chesterfield. Seems to be at fault for a majority of the goals.

Yesterday cost them a point with a real bizarre kick.
 
Lane Ender said:
I think the tossers who got on his back did his head in.
Goalkeeping a confidence thing
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He made serious errors long before anyone got on his back. There was nothing but good will for him at first but he kept making a bollocks of it.
 
snootyfenooty said:
All GK's make mistakes. Calamity James made a living out of it. Then there's Grobbelar and a succession of Man U goalies. But their frequent match saving brilliance outweighed this. Long doesn't have this part in his repertoire, that's the difference.
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Wimbledon have conceded fewer goals than us this season in the same number of games and that's in a team that have been struggling to score and in the bottom half of league one. He must be doing something right.

I'm not saying he has a future at the Lane, just defending him as a decent keeper that I have no doubt has a good future in the game.
 
Oh, those funny Bladey Boybanders are out in force today. What an odd bunch they are...

Ironside..... Ironside.....
 
Pinchy said:
He made serious errors long before anyone got on his back. There was nothing but good will for him at first but he kept making a bollocks of it.
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He won’t play for us again I think it’s in his head now.
But even you must admit he’s going the right way his performances for the Dons have been exemplary
 
Lane Ender said:
He won’t play for us again I think it’s in his head now.
But even you must admit he’s going the right way his performances for the Dons have been exemplary
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I hope he does. He seems a very decent lad and I wish him well. Same goes for Louis Reed and Ben Whiteman. If any of them were in our team, however, it would not be as good as it is now or will be going forward.

I’m afraid the ongoing revival of Sheffield United is infinitely more important to me than whether there are Blades fans in the team or whether kids from the Academy gerrarun because I know, under the current management ‘are you good enough’ is the sole criterion. Quite right too, whatever Billy Sharp or Louis Reed might think about it.
 



HillmortonBlade said:
Well, maybe sometimes as a consequence of confidence in ones defence distracting a keeper.

However, in this case, I agree with you. But a keeper having a bad game, or even a dip in form, does not make that keeper poor.
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I totally agree pal.

For what it’s worth I rate Ramsdale but sometimes a mistake is a mistake no matter what team you are playing for.
 
Pinchy said:
I hope he does. He seems a very decent lad and I wish him well. Same goes for Louis Reed and Ben Whiteman. If any of them were in our team, however, it would not be as good as it is now or will be going forward.

I’m afraid the ongoing revival of Sheffield United is infinitely more important to me than whether there are Blades fans in the team or whether kids from the Academy gerrarun because I know, under the current management ‘are you good enough’ is the sole criterion. Quite right too, whatever Billy Sharp or Louis Reed might think about it.
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I don’t know any manager past or present that would play any young player if they were not good enough.
Any young player at SUFC or any other club knows full well their chance will come only if the manager thinks they are good enough.

If some people on here think Reed, Whiteman or any other player either from our academy or not are good enough to be given their opportunity in the first team then they are entitled to that opinion. As you are my friend.

Why does it always turn into LIttle Louis jibes. All a bit childish really
 
mosbolad said:
Wimbledon have conceded fewer goals than us this season in the same number of games and that's in a team that have been struggling to score and in the bottom half of league one. He must be doing something right.

I'm not saying he has a future at the Lane, just defending him as a decent keeper that I have no doubt has a good future in the game.
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No doubt about that at all. He'll play at L1 as a minimum now. He may even be good enough for the championship but good enough for the championship isn't enough for us anymore, we need players who are good at championship level, players that could get into Wolves' team or Fulham's etc, not who'd be good for Barnsley or Preston. George may be one day but he's not yet or we'd have got offers for him and we can't afford to hang about to see if he will be. If we don't go up this season we need to challenge again next season or we'll start losing players.
 
I think as a goalkeeper, you do need to be early 20's to play regularly at first team level, it is a unique position and obviously requires greater physical development, than an out field player. You need to be able to hold your own at corners and free kicks, in amongst big strikers and centre halves. It's therefore essential that a keeper can physically compete and not be intimidated, in such situations. It is unusual for anyone to be fully developed in their teens and has been said, the consequence of a goalkeeping error is catastrophic and can destroy a young lads confidence.

For all that Brooks is a great prospect and has had some fantastic moments as a first team player, if he was a goalkeeper, there is no way on earth he would be ready to play in the first team.

It's telling that, I cannot immediately think of any regular first team teenage keeper, but I can think of many teenage outfielders :)
 
larkymasher said:
I don’t know any manager past or present that would play any young player if they were not good enough.
Any young player at SUFC or any other club knows full well their chance will come only if the manager thinks they are good enough.

If some people on here think Reed, Whiteman or any other player either from our academy or not are good enough to be given their opportunity in the first team then they are entitled to that opinion. As you are my friend.

Why does it always turn into LIttle Louis jibes. All a bit childish really
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It’s actually aimed at those who continue to suggest he has a future at our club or indeed at any level above the lower football leagues at best. It’s a slap in the face with the wet towel of reality.

Reed is not a future star. He really isn’t. He’s not good enough, not quick enough of mind or foot. He’s not big enough or athletic enough. He may earn a living through football but fame and fortune is going to pass him by. His limitations outweigh his qualities by a long way. It really is time to stop wishing on that star.
 
The position on the field does make a big difference to the attitude spectators have towards the player. I manage an under 14 team and hear it from the sidelines all the time:
Striker misses a shot - comments usually along the lines of "good effort" "chin up, next time"
Midfielder miss hits a pass - "right idea though"
Defender gets beaten - "what was that meant to be" "come on you are better than that"
Goalkeeping mistake - at best judgemental silence or muttered "shouldn't be getting beaten from there"
This is the same at the professional/ development level. I think the maturity argument comes in because it takes a few years of experience to not listen to the 'experts' judgement from the touchlines and trust in your own ability.
 
Ihadadream said:
Young Rammers be a top drawer keeper in the near future of that there is no doubt and he’s a big enough character to learn from any mistakes.....when a club decides that the offer on the table is too good to refuse then the player has very little say in whether he stays or goes you’ll find that Ramsdale never wanted to leave
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Why do people say stuff like this when it's just not true?
 
In starting 11 for Wimbledon today. Can he keep out Ched and James Wallace who start for Fleetwood.
 
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