Credit to the board

[More Bladier than thou]

We needed that 5-0 loss at Ipswich, I don’t think it would’ve happened so quickly otherwise. We can make the playoffs at least now.

 

[1066blade]

I said pretty much the same to my son, we need to take a good hiding today, and lance the boil. He looked at me like I'd just left the loony bin.

 

[HillStreet Blade]

No. They never prepared the ground works to make that type of decision. It’s on them for being effing stupid. It was the wrong decision at the wrong time. Sort the infrastructure out and it may then be a sensible decision. As it is we are not geared up for a YTS coach.

Every rookie coach/manager we have had sadly has failed, sometimes failed so badly we have been relegated. We are not a club for on the job training.

 

[Booker4]

I noticed that Wilders contract is to the summer of 2027 rather than the original length of summer 2028? I thought it was the same as what he had last time but it appears one year less.

 

[Corkblade]

The problem is that they’re American. Most of their professional sport derives from their college system where University sports is massive and all universities have pro coaches for their teams. You get a sports scholarship in the USA, be it golf, lacrosse, baseball, gridiron then you’re made. You have a paid for education leading to a degree and you expect to go onto pro sport. The idea of a non college educated manager of a pro team is rare.

What they see is a bloke with no education set against a bloke with an education similar to what they would expect in their perception of professional sports. Similarly they have a huge reliance on statistical analysis in their pro sports and pro sports betting. To them, if a quarterback has a 2% advantage in red zone conversion then it’s worth backing. Football(Soccer) just doesn’t work to the same sort of algorithms and stats you can glean from gridiron, baseball basketball or ice hockey. The fact that a player can run 10.4 in a straight line doesn’t help if he doesn’t know when or to whom to release the ball, or he’s got the heart of a pea.

I hope they begin to understand it ain’t a computer game and learn from Wrexham and Birmingham. You need a dinosaur (I’m looking at you Parkinson) to make the first steps up before jumping to “the beautiful game”.

Just IMHO of course.

Your explanation here shows why Association football is the most popular sport in the world and American Football , baseball, etc aren't

 

[PrestwichBlade]

I noticed that Wilders contract is to the summer of 2027 rather than the original length of summer 2028? I thought it was the same as what he had last time but it appears one year less.

1 year deducted for bad behaviour?

 

[Sharrow Snuff Mill]

The owners can gain even more credit if they get a move on with the new training facilities at Dore.

 

[Godbeblade]

I think anyone admitting they made a mistake is a rare sight these days which is a positive to take from recent events.

I am concerned about the longer term strategy though- we started to go down a different 'non-wilder' path and seem to have ripped that up now, what happens next? Does Wilder get annoyed when owners want their signings in? Will that even happen or have we just handed the keys to wilder and said to get us back up the table?

If anything, it buys them time before they make their next move (which I hope is a bit more thought through than the last one)

 

[jimmymuir]

We needed that 5-0 loss at Ipswich, I don’t think it would’ve happened so quickly otherwise. We can make the playoffs at least now.

Spot on, we nick a draw there and Selles survives another two matches (minimum). We have 41 matches still to play, and I'm confident with Wilder back we can go on a good run. I know we've lost every single game so far, but there's nobody in this league that is a dominant force. The likes of Southampton, Leicester, Ipswich, Birmingham, Coventry are all good sides, but they're certainly beatable on their day.

 

[Sheffsteel]

The problem is that they’re American. Most of their professional sport derives from their college system where University sports is massive and all universities have pro coaches for their teams. You get a sports scholarship in the USA, be it golf, lacrosse, baseball, gridiron then you’re made. You have a paid for education leading to a degree and you expect to go onto pro sport. The idea of a non college educated manager of a pro team is rare.

What they see is a bloke with no education set against a bloke with an education similar to what they would expect in their perception of professional sports. Similarly they have a huge reliance on statistical analysis in their pro sports and pro sports betting. To them, if a quarterback has a 2% advantage in red zone conversion then it’s worth backing. Football(Soccer) just doesn’t work to the same sort of algorithms and stats you can glean from gridiron, baseball basketball or ice hockey. The fact that a player can run 10.4 in a straight line doesn’t help if he doesn’t know when or to whom to release the ball, or he’s got the heart of a pea.

I hope they begin to understand it ain’t a computer game and learn from Wrexham and Birmingham. You need a dinosaur (I’m looking at you Parkinson) to make the first steps up before jumping to “the beautiful game”.

Just IMHO of course.

Agree it was naivety from the owners….which as you say is understandable because they have a US business related background.

You can imagine Selles turning up at his job interview with an iPad and blinding them with science regards his tactical strategies and how he uses statistical data.
The new owners will have been so impressed with Selles modern progressive thinking. He fits their idea of how today’s managers should be.

Also in the US, like most of the world, they have a coaching culture…..this UK “manager” culture where the main guy controls everything…must seem really perverse from a business post of view. They will have find it unsettling how Wilder walks around Bramall Lane and the training ground like he owns the club.

The owners have also been naive on thinking “good players = a good team”, so they under estimated how important a manager regards motivation and just assumed Selles would be a good appointment. These US owners obviously want to use the world wide market, like all modern clubs and they’ve seen that Selles is an international coach with experience in several countries coaching foreign players, where as Wilder has little experience with foreigners and is pretty much old school.
Another point is that US owners will generally care about reputation and won’t like how Wilder was shown drunk singing songs about Rohl after the Sheff Wed match.
That’s another tick for Selles, they see him as being more professional.

These owners might not understand football but they all excel at business.
With US owners there’s a strong desire to employ a Wayne Rooney or a Steven Gerrard…..,as from a business point of view it instantly raises the profile of that club.
They wanted change, to plan for the future but the situation regards the present is so serious…they’ve back pedalled and addressed the short term situation.

Daft as it sounds the Summer sacking has done Wilder a big favour.
He’s now under much less pressure this season. Even if he fails to gain promotion he’s still likely to be here next season. Also some of our fanbase will appreciate him much more. I’m a Wilder fan but I saw negatives last season and wasn’t enthused about our unconvincing 1-0 wins most weeks
But now bring on a boring 1-0, forget performances and entertainment we need results.