The Lundstram haters.

[PokerBlade]

His mistakes mostly came from trying to do too much. No, his ball retention wasn't as good as Coutts, but I'm very encouraged by today's performance from him. Certainly allowed us to keep our general style of play intact and did a lot of good work.

 

[United Aren't Back.]

Hes not Coutts and we look a bit disjointed because him and Fleck are building up an understanding. Too early to tell. Technically he seems talented

Billy is a great player but we just look more dynamic with Brooks on.

Brooks has his own limitations which are looking more evident every time I see him.
Don't hear anyone slagging him off.

 

[Carlton Blade]

Brooks has his own limitations which are looking more evident every time I see him.
Don't hear anyone slagging him off.

He does. But untapped potential is there every time he gets the ball. Its hard to resist as a fan. And maybe not having Coutts is making it harder for Billy to get the ball early enough to be as effective?

 

[SB_90]

i dont think lundstram is as bad as people make out. but i noticed that he was sloppy in possession. many times he would give it back straight away. id like to see carruthers in that role next saturday because if lundstram is there to be holding midfielder letting the others be creative. but thats pointless if he cant keep hold of possession

 

[Muttley]

It's probably my fault for being on there in the first place but the reason for posting this thread is down to the "Get Lundstram off he's shit" brigade all over Facebook. Reading that shit on the way back to the car made me wonder why they bother to support us.........then I switch the radio on and Brian the Brainless comments just about finished me off.

 

[iBlade.]

I thought he did OK, few misplaced passes straight to blue shirts. Would not surprise me if Stearman comes back to defence and Bashembaur goes midfield.

That said will CW go 442?

Just don't see why folk want Bash playing a central midfield role.Bash couldn't do the job half as well as Lundstram.

 

[nowtfancy]

Tuesday and today some of lundstram's long passes were fantastic

 

[tomtheblade]

The crucial aspect of our play with coutts is not just his attributes but an understanding. It's the links between these players that make the difference rather than just the player himself.

This can be developed with a replacement, but it takes time to build. I'm undecided as to whether we can bridge this gap with Lundstram, it's definitely possible though.

 

[LJBlade]

Or just, y'know....logic.

The last word is yours, go on.

Thank you very much.

If you can’t back up what you’re saying it would be quicker to just say so. If you were able to produce the evidence you would do, instead of asking me to do it for you

 

[Tyler Durden]

Thank you very much.

If you can’t back up what you’re saying it would be quicker to just say so. If you were able to produce the evidence you would do, instead of asking me to do it for you

I don't need to produce anything for you. My view on Billy Sharp is the culmination of two years of negativity. It's all there to be found. If you want me to be your secretary, then pay me.

But if you require more "evidence" he's currently being slagged off on another live thread.

Sorry for lying about the last word thing by the way. You can carry on being really interesting elsewhere now.

 

[Bladepicker]

As I've said in another thread, I'll hold my hand up and say I was critical of him before today, and then again today at half time (never said he was shit, mind). But he was excellent in the second half and for me he has earned a run in that position.

Exactly this.

Save for his shot he was poor in the first half and gave the ball away nearly every time he had it. Changed totally in the second half - cam and wanted the ball off the centre backs, got forward more and didn't just launch it forward like in the 1st half. More of the second half Lunny and we will be ok when we have a RWB fit again.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

Please don't hold your breath if you want Lundstram dropped. CW thinks too much of him for that to happen anytime soon.
He's been trying to find a place for him all season.

 

[Bladepicker]

One thing to note - for those saying he struggles to play the Coutts role - he won't play that role, because frankly there aren't many midfielders in this league who could - to compare like that is unfair on the lad.

 

[dc_blade]

It's probably my fault for being on there in the first place but the reason for posting this thread is down to the "Get Lundstram off he's shit" brigade all over Facebook. Reading that shit on the way back to the car made me wonder why they bother to support us.........then I switch the radio on and Brian the Brainless comments just about finished me off.

When he did give the ball away, it tended to be a shocker. One of the very few times he did, it produced the Birmingham counterattack that ended with Wright's second Hollywood tackle. But if you look a little bit deeper he was really tidy, made a number of quality tackles and in the second half literally didn't put a foot wrong. Wouldn't be surprised if his second half pass completion rate was 95%.

I'd like to see him come deeper to receive the ball in the way Coutts does. That would remove the temptation from our centre-halves to look long, which I dont think serves us well.

 

[dc_blade]

One thing to note - for those saying he struggles to play the Coutts role - he won't play that role, because frankly there aren't many midfielders in this league who could - to compare like that is unfair on the lad.

Exactly. Wilder took a sicknote, unwanted CM and turned him into our Rolls Royce. To buy a Coutts you'd need to spend millions, which we're not in any position to do. If Wilder can turn Lunny into 75% of that player, we're in good shape.

 

[Snowman]

Please don't hold your breath if you want Lundstram dropped. CW thinks too much of him for that to happen anytime soon.
He's been trying to find a place for him all season.

Yep.That's my worry. It's starting to be a matter of pride to him. Never a good sign. I thought he was less useless in the second half apart from a woeful sliced shot. However, having now seen Carruthers in action again, he is most definitely not the answer. I could go on at length about Lundstram's deficiencies but someone would call me a repulsive old bitter twat.

 

[adebo]

Sharp was awful again today

Sharp got no service and was up against 2 top quality championship centre halves and it was his 3rd game in 8 days, give him a break. As for Lundstram he was fantastic. I said it was the best he had played in a blades shirt on Tuesday and that he was growing into the role. Today was an improvement on Tuesday if we get behind him and dont compare him blindly to Coutts we could we'll have a player on our hands in a month or so! Still need reinforcements in January tho!

 

[LJBlade]

I don't need to produce anything for you. My view on Billy Sharp is the culmination of two years of negativity. It's all there to be found. If you want me to be your secretary, then pay me.

But if you require more "evidence" he's currently being slagged off on another live thread.

Sorry for lying about the last word thing by the way. You can carry on being really interesting elsewhere now.

Your ‘view’ isn’t on Billy Sharp though, it’s on the posters of this board. You’re having a go at a lot of people whilst simultaneously inferring that you’re the only person who appreciates him. I’m calling bullshit and you’re doing nothing to prove otherwise.

I’ve seen the other thread that you talk about and if you call that slagging him off then I’m not surprised you keep getting so upset. When did Sharp become immune from constructive criticism? If he plays poorly in a game are people not allowed to say so?

As I’ve said, you really need to let it go.

 

[adebo]

Thought he was top class today, fine performance by the lad.

The only player (bar maybe Carruthers, & JOC) with the bollocks to have a pop from distance too.

I do wish o'connell wouldn't tho!There is so much he is good at long distance shooting is not one of those things lol

 

[The Hobott]

His best game for us - think there's more to come too when he's had a run in the team.

 

[NotFallowfieldBlade]

......can go fuck themselves.

Thought he was terrific tonight. Their keepers made a really good save first half. He's looked for the positive ball all night and he must despair as the moans go up. If you want to see sideways and backwards for 80 minutes, fuck off to Hillsborough.

Well played John, keep up the good work.

Sorry mate what match were you watching , the game completely passed him by in the first half he must have touched the ball twice. And gave the ball away more than others

 

[Bruce Wayne]

He did the odd thing well and the rest crap. He's not a top end championship player, that simple.

 

[Tyler Durden]

Your ‘view’ isn’t on Billy Sharp though, it’s on the posters of this board. You’re having a go at a lot of people whilst simultaneously inferring that you’re the only person who appreciates him. I’m calling bullshit and you’re doing nothing to prove otherwise.

I’ve seen the other thread that you talk about and if you call that slagging him off then I’m not surprised you keep getting so upset. When did Sharp become immune from constructive criticism? If he plays poorly in a game are people not allowed to say so?

As I’ve said, you really need to let it go.

I don't need to "prove" anything to you, you'll only keep trying to redefine "proof" anyway. It's self-evident. If you can't see it then that's your problem.

I won't be letting anything go. Feel free to put me on ignore if you like. We'll both benefit.

 

[United Aren't Back.]

Yep.That's my worry. It's starting to be a matter of pride to him. Never a good sign. I thought he was less useless in the second half apart from a woeful sliced shot. However, having now seen Carruthers in action again, he is most definitely not the answer. I could go on at length about Lundstram's deficiencies but someone would call me a repulsive old bitter twat.

It wasn't you Snowman.
He would not be able to string two sentences together.
As someone said, the detractors tend to look like people on day release from an institution of some kind.

 

[LJBlade]

I don't need to "prove" anything to you, you'll only keep trying to redefine "proof" anyway. It's self-evident. If you can't see it then that's your problem.

I won't be letting anything go. Feel free to put me on ignore if you like. We'll both benefit.

Ok, you keep getting upset over nothing then. I’m only trying to show you that what you think you’re seeing isn’t really there.

So to answer my other questions. When did Sharp become immune to criticism? If he has a poor game are we not allowed to say so?

 

[fintious maximus]

I think he’s playing well and the more games he gets the better he will be. Yes we miss couttsy but it’ll tae a few games fir Lundstrums role to develop. He’ll be rait

 

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Carry on...

 

[Tyler Durden]

Ok, you keep getting upset over nothing then. I’m only trying to show you that what you think you’re seeing isn’t really there.

So to answer my other questions. When did Sharp become immune to criticism? If he has a poor game are we not allowed to say so?

When I see as much appreciation for the good stuff as condemnation for his bad performances I'll stop.

Until then you'll just have to keep getting upset about me "getting upset".

Have a fascinating night.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

I summed up my thoughts in my thread earlier this evening...

These two games just go to show how integral to us Coutts is. He's arguably the biggest turn around of Wilder's reign so far. His contribution is subtle but he's flawless in possession; he barely puts a foot wrong, picks the simple but effective pass and reads the game incredibly well. We won't be able to replace his contribution. That's not intended as disrespect to others, rather a compliment to his huge importance. We have Lundstram and Carruthers to come in and both are quality, but they aren't Coutts, nor should they be expected to be. I think, if I'm being fair though, we now already notice that Coutts is the one thateveryone else revolves around. They make arun, safe in the knowledge he will find them, or they take a chance safe in the knowledge they won't get caught out of position cos he'll retain possession. You could just see afew snippets tonight of those same playersnot making quite the same moves entirely,as they need time for Lundstram to growinto a similar role and develop a similar faith in him. He has potential, but I do think hegives the ball away the most.

 

[LJBlade]

When I see as much appreciation for the good stuff as condemnation for his bad performances I'll stop.

Until then you'll just have to keep getting upset about me "getting upset".

Have a fascinating night.

So he is immune to criticism and we aren’t allowed to say so when he has a poor game?

Interestingly we have quite a few players who are worthy of praise and yet you yourself seem to be oddly quiet on that front.