Chedwyn

[HighfieldBlade]

With any luck, Chesterfield will be down already before the game starts. I hope Ched is 'rested'. If he played, at best it would divert attention from our own celebrations, at worst the atmosphere could get toxic.

 

[COME BACK CHED]

Had we not been top of the leauge , some peoples opinions would have been very different .

 

[blades95]

Had we not been top of the leauge , some peoples opinions would have been very different .

that wouldn't change the fact he's done practically nothing for chesterfield would it?

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Had we not been top of the leauge , some peoples opinions would have been very different .

What does that even mean? Do you believe he was worth what it cost the club, both in monetary terms and reputation?

There will be many players who deserve praise and all the accolades the crowd can give during and after that game, none will be wearing blue, and they'll already have their own Blades shirt.

 

[FMBlade1]

No, his wrongful conviction cost us promotion and caused the club millions of pounds worth of negative publicity. Why do you find this so difficult to understand?

Since when was cheating on your girlfriend against SUFC professional requirements? Do we expect all our players to wait until marriage? It wasn't his fault he got what he paid.

We can play this game with Billy Sharp as a poster above mentioned, probably cost around £4 million in total and was mediocre for the most part bar the last two seasons, but think he is a club hero in my book.

 

[Yellarbellyblade]

Another Ched thread????

 

[COME BACK CHED]

that wouldn't change the fact he's done practically nothing for chesterfield would it?

When Southend beat us 3v0 at home Chesterfield played Walsall same night ,Winning 2v0 Ched scored both , late on , as news filtered thru a Super Ched Evans Chant went up from the kop , this is before he was found innocent as well . Its great we are top but we easily forget what the feeling was back then .

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

FMBlade1 is right though. Ched legally did nothing wrong. Therefore 'he' didn't derail anything, it was the wrongful decision in the first instance that did that. Whether that comes down to the lack of the extra evidence or whatever.

So you can only impact on something if you act illegally? What about unprofessionally, you know as a professional footballer representing our club and fans?
His actions, and the consequences of those actions, affected our club in a hugely negative way, and utilmatrly derailed our season. It's quite simple really.
He cost us a fortune and delivered very little against it to justify that cost, do you think he should be considered a hero?

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

When Southend beat us 3v0 at home Chesterfield played Walsall same night ,Winning 2v0 Ched scored both , late on , as news filtered thru a Super Ched Evans Chant went up from the kop , this is before he was found innocent as well . Its great we are top but we easily forget what the feeling was back then .

The feeling was wrong, those chanting his name were wrong, and they all damaged our club with those thoughts, feelings and actions.
It's sad that his unprofessional behaviour makes him a hero to some of our crowd just because they believe he was wronged by the law. He wasn't, he had a fair trail and was found guilty, he then had a fair appeal where he was acquitted, and all was a direct consequence of his own actions. Those actions also impacted our club in a hugely negative way both on and off the pitch.

In short fuck him, he's no hero and took far more money out this club than many of those direded as stealing a wage and he delivered very little for that while dragging our name through the mud.
We have so many others who are more deserving of praise than him, and I can't believe it's even a possibility.

 

[Liverpool blade]

I don't give a fuck whether ched plays or not!!. He's a prick who couldn't keep his in his trousers!. I'll be too busy celebrating promotion and the title. Fuck off ched and enjoy the league 2 wilderness!!.

 

[Barney]

So you can only impact on something if you act illegally? What about unprofessionally, you know as a professional footballer representing our club and fans?
His actions, and the consequences of those actions, affected our club in a hugely negative way, and utilmatrly derailed our season. It's quite simple really.
He cost us a fortune and delivered very little against it to justify that cost, do you think he should be considered a hero?

The impact on our season came about as a result of a decision that was wrongful and not his fault.

His actions would have had no impact on our season whatsoever were it not for said wrongful decision.

What impacted our season is the wrongful decision on the actions, not his actions themselves.

 

[derfblade.3]

Yawwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnn!

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

The impact on our season came about as a result of a decision that was wrongful and not his fault.

His actions would have had no impact on our season whatsoever were it not for said wrongful decision.

He was found guilty by a fair process. His trail wasn't corrupt or biased and there was significant reason for a jury to find him guilty so that decision wasn't found to be wrong based on the evidence provided. He wasn't setup, he wasn't framed, he was put on trail, based in large part, on his own words during his interview for fucks sake. An interview he decided to have without legal council by the way, another unprofessional decision.
He was 100% responsible for his actions that night which were unprofessional and jepidised the club.
His actions caused everything that happened afterwards and he is responsible for that.

 

[FMBlade1]

The process wasn't fair, his legal team failed to collect all the necessary evidence before the first trial which may well have led to a not guilty verdict first time round.

If I got wrongly jailed for speeding in a 60 zone yet I only did 59 which negatively affected the company I work for am I responsible for that?

I'll ask the question again,since when was cheating on your girlfriend against SUFC professional requirements? Do we expect all our players to wait until marriage? If they don't should they not be allowed to play for us? Is it unprofessional for a FOOTBALLER to get up to law abiding activities in their free time?

I think anyone (who is innocent) who scores 35 goals in a season is a club hero in my book. Sharp is considered a hero by almost all on here, despite costing nearly as much and doing as little as Evans did in previous years. It wasn't Evans' fault what he cost and what he was paid. In fact most would have struggled in previous seasons for a variety of factors, of course he shares responsibility for the 2011 relegation, but he has no responsibility for us not going up in 2012.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

The process wasn't fair, his legal team failed to collect all the necessary evidence before the first trial which may well have led to a not guilty verdict first time round.

If I got wrongly jailed for speeding in a 60 zone yet I only did 59 which negatively affected the company I work for am I responsible for that?

Of course it was. It's not like he had to settle for the defence provided on his behalf. He picked out his legal team at great expense I'd imagine. He had a 100% fair trail, there is no possible argument against that fact.

If you were jailed for speeding at 60 miles an hour when a significant amount of evidence put forward suggested you were going over that, and you had the best defence money could buy. To put the cherry on top, in your own evidence to the Police you said you were probably going close to 70, only for a few years later some else provided evidence that suggested you might have been going 59, then you would be responsible for being an idiot.

 

[FMBlade1]

So Evans is now to blame for his legal team making mistakes? It wasn't fair he got convicted because all the available evidence was not used in his first trial as a result of his mistakes.
I am responsible for being wrongly convicted having drove at 59 miles an hour?

The system failed Evans, and us it really is as simple as that.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

So Evans is now to blame for his legal team making mistakes? It wasn't fair he got convicted because all the available evidence was not used in his first trial as a result of his mistakes.
I am responsible for being wrongly convicted having drove at 59 miles an hour?

The system failed Evans, and us it really is as simple as that.

He made mistakes, he is responsible for those.
Your driving story doesn't stand up to any scrutiny as it's was predominantly Evans own interview that gave the CPS evidence to proceed. You can keep posting the same bollocks as much as you like it doesn't chance the facts.
He was convicted on the evidence provided and had the resources to ensure he got the best possible defence.
If he's acted professionally at any point that night he wouldn't have faced any court case at all.

Here's a final question for you. Do you 100% believe that Evans was certain he had full concent from the girl and she defiantly was not too drunk to be able to give that concent. Or do you think he just thought she was a drunk girl and he didn't even think they could be too drunk if they could verbally give consent so that was good enough for him?

 

[ourbob]

Since he signed for Chezzy, eyes have been on the two fixtures against them



The last time he was on the Bramall Lane pitch he scored a late goal to put United 3-1 up and all but secure us a place in the Championship.

Five years and two weeks later, he'll be back and it's highly likely that it will be a party for the home fans whilst the away team will be sunk to the fourth tier.

Is he likely to be mobbed and put in a Blades shirt or will he want to escape down the tunnel quickly?

Either way, it'll be an odd day for Ched Evans.

Mobbed and a blades shirt put on him?

Are you for real?

Not even on porktalk would you find a ridiculous comment like that.

 

[FMBlade1]

So if you pay someone highly for their resources and they mess up its your fault?
So any player that cheats on his girlfriend isn't acting like a professional employee of a football club?
So Evans is responsible for us not getting promoted because he decided (naively I admit) to be honest when interviewed? Him being charged didn't affect us whatsoever, him being WRONGLY convicted was.

You've shown your true colours with your last question as you indicate it was justifiable that he should have been convicted, fair enough that's your prerogative.

For what its worth since you ask I think Evans thought she was able to and was consenting, and had reasonable belief in that conclusion.

 

[AlexBlade]

Mobbed and a blades shirt put on him?

Are you for real?

Not even on porktalk would you find a ridiculous comment like that.

As I mentioned earlier, it's not a direct, personal question to anyone --

Personally, I wouldn't clap or even acknowledge him, the staff and players from this season deserve 100% of our attention.

However, I understand that other people have various views and opinions on it all and I know for a fact there's many that still love him...

You only need to look over this thread to see the difference in opinions on him..

 

[Yellarbellyblade]

 

[Barney]

He was found guilty by a fair process. His trail wasn't corrupt or biased and there was significant reason for a jury to find him guilty so that decision wasn't found to be wrong based on the evidence provided. He wasn't setup, he wasn't framed, he was put on trail, based in large part, on his own words during his interview for fucks sake. An interview he decided to have without legal council by the way, another unprofessional decision.
He was 100% responsible for his actions that night which were unprofessional and jepidised the club.
His actions caused everything that happened afterwards and he is responsible for that.

But if it hadn't been for the wrongful conviction, those actions wouldn't have jeopardised the club.

As I said - what impacted our season is the wrongful decision on his actions, not his actions themselves.

His actions themselves, as we now know, were lawful.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

So if you pay someone highly for their resources and they mess up its your fault?
So any player that cheats on his girlfriend isn't acting like a professional employee of a football club?
So Evans is responsible for us not getting promoted because he decided (naively I admit) to be honest when interviewed? Him being charged didn't affect us whatsoever, him being WRONGLY convicted was.

You've shown your true colours with your last question as you indicate it was justifiable that he should have been convicted, fair enough that's your prerogative.

For what its worth since you ask I think Evans thought she was able to and was consenting, and had reasonable belief in that conclusion.

If you hire someone to represent you, then you are responsible for picking them, yes, and I couldn't give a shit about him cheating on his girlfriend.
His decisions and actions that night were unprofessional and put him at risk, also detrimental to the reputation of the club.

Your dig a my supposed "true colours" is an interesting projection of your own position and is indeed fascinating. If you think what you've posted, why didn't he mention her clearly being sober enough for him to have reasonable belief that she could consent? He just mentioned what she'd said, as if her state of mind wasn't particularly relevant.
As youve jumped to an incorrect conclusion about my opinion on it, my view is that he didn't understand the law and didn't consider it could possibly be rape as he didn't force her and she was conscious. This seems to be supported based on his comments to the Police and his actions at the time. If he was 100% clear on the law, and sure she was able to clearly give consent, and was also happy to do what he did, this is unclear, and that is the reason he was originally convicted. That's because he didn't ensure it was 100% by turning up uninvited by her, and leaving in a very suspicious fashion. They were his decisions and they were all his own doing.

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

But if it hadn't been for the wrongful conviction, those actions wouldn't have jeopardised the club.

As I said - what impacted our season is the wrongful decision on his actions, not his actions themselves.

If the twat Evans had kept his cock in his trousers none of this would never have happened .

He will not be playing for Chesterfield when we play them . He will bottle it with a so called injury .

Also we were still paying interest on the bank loan relating to the transfer fee to Manchester City .

The blokes a tow rag .

 

[vorpal blade]

toe

ffs

 

[1889]

On his day he could Destroy us , and we all know it .

Can't argue with that, after all hes done it before, April 2012 wasn't it?

 

[FMBlade1]

Evans is responsible for picking them yes, but he isn't responsible for the mistakes that they made.
Please explain how his actions were 'unprofessional'? If he hadn't have been convicted how damaging would it have been to the reputation of the football club?
There was no dig, keep calm and sorry for misjudging your opinion
I would suggest that Evans, under pressure tired and perhaps a little drunk didn't articulate himself as well as he would have liked in his first interview.

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

toe

ffs

You WWF .

Tow Rag is a low life scum . Just looked it up .

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Evans is responsible for picking them yes, but he isn't responsible for the mistakes that they made.
Please explain how his actions were 'unprofessional'? If he hadn't have been convicted how damaging would it have been to the reputation of the football club?
There was no dig, keep calm and sorry for misjudging your opinion
I would suggest that Evans, under pressure tired and perhaps a little drunk didn't articulate himself as well as he would have liked in his first interview.

If he hadn't been convicted then his actions, and misogynistic decisions would have damaged the clubs. We arent supported by all men, we have a strong female following and the way he behaved isn't how one of our players should act in order to represent us in the most positive manner. Football has a misogynitic under belly which needs tackling not enforcing, and a lot what was heard on the terraces during his trial and afterwards was the latter.
Being found not guilty doesn't mean his actions were professional or a good reprensation of our club and he's solely responsible for it.
Also not immediately asking for legal council was also unprofessional and stupid, probably based as you mentioned on his arrogant view of the situation. Again an unprofessionally arrogant view.
There is a theme here.

 

[FMBlade1]

Ok, how much were Port Vale damaged after Clayton McDonald got cleared? Of course the chants were odious, I've already acknowledged that on this thread. Unfortunately such chants and worse are sung at every football club by the loud idiotic 1%. How was his legal behavior misogynistic? Plenty of female fans supported Evans (ok hard to make a poll on that but most would agree) If one of the Sheffield Ladies players did what he did does it mean she has a hatred for men?
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He was drunk tired and it was 5am, as well as not naturally being very clever. Most probably would have made the same mistake in similar circumstances, OJ Simpson is one such example.

If I'm an architect and I did what Evans did am I an unprofessional architect? Why do we hold footballers at a higher moral level? This is probably where a lot of problems comes from...