Too many 'what we want' threads ...

[pommpey]

Even CW is at it. Has anyone any proof, or faith that McCabe will fulfil Wilder's shopping-list requirements to make good the shortcomings now patently seen in our squad? It seems to me we are trapped in this ever-regenerating cycle of optimistic speculation and wishful thinking, underpinned by a complete lack of transparency and ability for the board to supply the means. Sure, we've signed some moderately good players this summer, but none of which are fucking doozies. We all hope they'll turn it on, but it seems they are all still playing an individual game, there's still no creativity in abundance in midfield to provide chances for two proven goalscorers and the backline still has holes in it.

Don't be surprised if these gaps aren't plugged and Basham gets 35 plus starts this season in a variety of positions. I think (IIRC) he has had a couple of good games filling in at the back and one or two out wide as part of Adkins experiment with 3-5-2 last season. But he is one who should be put out to pasture now. He doesn't have it in him at this level and we can't afford to have him clogging up the starting lineup. Long by now should be razor sharp and mopping up the attempts on goal. Brayford I feel has shat his last. He's not delivering on his fee and Done has been allowed to get shit by playing him out of position, a trick even the great Wayne Rooney has suffered for.

But we'll be stuck with them, underperforming and not living up to their expectations. And I don't believe for one minute that right up to one minute before the end of the TW we will sign anyone with the capability to set our game alight. That Adams money will melt away, and unless we have some kind of miraculous epiphany down on the pitch, we'll be praying to scrape into the playoffs. It's same owd, same owd ...and that is bad for Wilder, and shit on toast for us.

pommpey

 

[Rodley]

Even CW is at it. Has anyone any proof, or faith that McCabe will fulfil Wilder's shopping-list requirements to make good the shortcomings now patently seen in our squad? It seems to me we are trapped in this ever-regenerating cycle of optimistic speculation and wishful thinking, underpinned by a complete lack of transparency and ability for the board to supply the means. Sure, we've signed some moderately good players this summer, but none of which are fucking doozies. We all hope they'll turn it on, but it seems they are all still playing an individual game, there's still no creativity in abundance in midfield to provide chances for two proven goalscorers and the backline still has holes in it.

Don't be surprised if these gaps aren't plugged and Basham gets 35 plus starts this season in a variety of positions. I think (IIRC) he has had a couple of good games filling in at the back and one or two out wide as part of Adkins experiment with 3-5-2 last season. But he is one who should be put out to pasture now. He doesn't have it in him at this level and we can't afford to have him clogging up the starting lineup. Long by now should be razor sharp and mopping up the attempts on goal. Brayford I feel has shat his last. He's not delivering on his fee and Done has been allowed to get shit by playing him out of position, a trick even the great Wayne Rooney has suffered for.

But we'll be stuck with them, underperforming and not living up to their expectations. And I don't believe for one minute that right up to one minute before the end of the TW we will sign anyone with the capability to set our game alight. That Adams money will melt away, and unless we have some kind of miraculous epiphany down on the pitch, we'll be praying to scrape into the playoffs. It's same owd, same owd ...and that is bad for Wilder, and shit on toast for us.

pommpey

We're two games in and in meltdown. Unless I've missed all the optimistic posts?

 

[Blade56]

We're two games in and in meltdown. Unless I've missed all the optimistic posts?

Only cause it looks like an also ran manager and an also ran team. That coupled with the fact that this season other teams are starting to look better run and much stronger than the usual piss poor opposition we have been losing to. There is absolutely nothing to be optimistic about at sufc at the moment. Our greatest achievements are getting rid of wage robbing mistakes that were bought to try and do a job on the cheap. More sale of best or most promising tallent, money falling into black holes, never present owners, manager talking in cliches to hide non performances and the faithful crowd at fault. I rest my case please tell me the positives cause I need em to hang on to.

 

[Sean Thornton]

We're two games in and in meltdown. Unless I've missed all the optimistic posts?

I said the Desso pitch looked good ....

 

[Rodley]

Only cause it looks like an also ran manager and an also ran team. That coupled with the fact that this season other teams are starting to look better run and much stronger than the usual piss poor opposition we have been losing to. There is absolutely nothing to be optimistic about at sufc at the moment. More sale of best or most promising tallent, money falling into black hole never present owners, manager talking in cliches to hide not dis riot performances and the faithful crowd at fault. I rest my case please tell me the positives cause I need em to hang on to.

You've made my point. We're hardly in a cycle of exaggerated optimism and disappointment. Many on here were predicting 14,000 attendances and 0 signings.

It's two games in and we've having this conversation. There's fuck all optimism and people are writing the season off already.

 

[Blade56]

I said the Desso pitch looked good ....

Actually think it was SwissBlade that mentioned we ran out of pies ont Kop, is that positive or negative?

 

[Rodley]

I said the Desso pitch looked good ....

You're in a minority Sean.

 

[Blade56]

You've made my point. We're hardly in a cycle of exaggerated optimism and disappointment. Many on here were predicting 14,000 attendances and 0 signings.

It's two games in and we've having this conversation. There's fuck all optimism and people are writing the season off already.

One thing that has remained constant and a source for optimism is the fan base. Look at the boltons, blackburns et al their fan bases have dropped dramatically where ours has stayed very strong. Club dunt deserve us TBH.

 

[Rodley]

One thing that has remained constant and a source for optimism is the fan base. Look at the boltons, blackburns et al their fan bases have dropped dramatically where ours has stayed very strong. Club dunt deserve us TBH.

I think that's partly because the prices have been kept low. But I don't disagree, the crowds are good but ultimately that counts for nowt. Rochdale don't care if we get an extra 4,000 on the gate. It's meaningless.

 

[ghandi]

We're two games in and in meltdown. Unless I've missed all the optimistic posts?

No we're 5 seasons and 2 games in.

 

[Blade56]

No we're 5 seasons and 2 games in.

Cracking point G

 

[Finn Keane o' Balmaqueen]

"What do we want?
More "What We Want" Threads.
When do we want them?
Now...."

tufty tufty, ra-ra-ra
TUFTY.
tufty tufty ra-ra-ra....

Love
Lyds
X

 

[Blade56]

"What do we want?
More "What We Want" Threads.
When do we want them?
Now...."

tufty tufty, ra-ra-ra
TUFTY.
tufty tufty ra-ra-ra....

Love
Lyds
X

You're supposed to put the lighter fluid on the feckin charcoal Lyndy

 

[pommpey]

I said the Desso pitch looked good ....

It can look fucking fantastic for all I care. If we are grinding out a draw at home against a poor side then that problem won't be fixed by installing a good playing surface.

As proved last season, in fact.

pommpey

 

[Finn Keane o' Balmaqueen]

You're supposed to put the lighter fluid on the feckin charcoal Lyndy

Ice an' a slice Chief?

It's a livener Goddamnit.

 

[Sean Thornton]

It can look fucking fantastic for all I care. If we are grinding out a draw at home against a poor side then that problem won't be fixed by installing a good playing surface.

As proved last season, in fact.

pommpey

Whoosh!

 

[pommpey]

Whoosh!

Yup. It's been whooshing over your head since they laid it, feller. You just carry on chipping in with the snarky asides, and the grown ups will continue debating the real issues, eh?

pommpey

 

[Sean Thornton]

Yup. It's been whooshing over your head since they laid it, feller. You just carry on chipping in with the snarky asides, and the grown ups will continue debating the real issues, eh?

pommpey

Yep. I've read your grown up posts "feller". Daily.

It's only cost us once, two years ago, not every season. Wasting money on shit players is more relevant this season as it was last rather than harping on about the pitch.

 

[Finn Keane o' Balmaqueen]

and the grown ups will continue debating

en masse?

en masse debating?

Count me in Squire... with real tissues?

 

[pommpey]

Yep. I've read your grown up posts "feller". Daily.

It's only cost us once, two years ago, not every season. Wasting money on shit players is more relevant this season as it was last rather than harping on about the pitch.

And still you'll forgive the board for hiring and sacking managers, restricting their reach in the transfer market and wasting club cash on unneeded 'assets' to enable the club to host events (so we are led to believe) which will never fucking happen and if did, wouldn't trouble the club's fortunes.

And it cost us once, two years ago. Mismanagement and incompetence has cost us promotion for almost half a decade. But that's okay with you, innit?

pommpey

 

[Sean Thornton]

And still you'll forgive the board for hiring and sacking managers, restricting their reach in the transfer market and wasting club cash on unneeded 'assets' to enable the club to host events (so we are led to believe) which will never fucking happen and if did, wouldn't trouble the club's fortunes.

And it cost us once, two years ago. Mismanagement and incompetence has cost us promotion for almost half a decade. But that's okay with you, innit?

pommpey

Find me a post where I've defended or forgiven the board. Or said what they've done is "okay with me"There's a difference between quoting broad financial information and ranting opinions On a daily basis. Very few people think what McCabe has done is acceptable and most don't have sympathy for his losses - which you can't even admit are real - because it's all down to him at the end of the day.
You need to read what people who disagree with you actually say rather than saddle them with false opinions to bolster your argument.

 

[pommpey]

Find me a post where I've defended or forgiven the board. Or said what they've done is "okay with me"There's a difference between quoting broad financial information and ranting opinions On a daily basis. Very few people think what McCabe has done is acceptable and most don't have sympathy for his losses - which you can't even admit are real - because it's all down to him at the end of the day.
You need to read what people who disagree with you actually say rather than saddle them with false opinions to bolster your argument.

Whereas you'll slide in a comment about the pitch apropos of nothing and away from the topic and expect it to go unresponded?

You can be snarky all you want, but you'll just end up back at square one, agreeing with me that McCabe, by hook or by crook, has to go. It's the only way this club will change it's direction and fulfil its potential. He is the common denominator throughout all of this. There's only parts of the stadium and the fans who have been with the club longer than he has and he has the power of decision making. And he is shit at it.

pommpey

 

[Sean Thornton]

Whereas you'll slide in a comment about the pitch apropos of nothing and away from the topic and expect it to go unresponded?

You can be snarky all you want, but you'll just end up back at square one, agreeing with me that McCabe, by hook or by crook, has to go. It's the only way this club will change it's direction and fulfil its potential. He is the common denominator throughout all of this. There's only parts of the stadium and the fans who have been with the club longer than he has and he has the power of decision making. And he is shit at it.

pommpey

I didn't expect it to go Without response. It's a forum. Are you now suggesting that's what I've said, or complained about? Because that's BS.

I've never disagreed that McCabe is the fundamental reason we are where we are. But you've suggested his tenure, decisions and failures are acceptable to me across the board. Again BS.

 

[Rodley]

No we're 5 seasons and 2 games in.

Exactly. So anyone claiming the fan base is optimistic, with a straight face, is making a ludicrous point.

 

[Danny_Blade]

No we're 5 seasons and 2 games in.

Don't mean to make it sound even worse but rather its 6 seasons and 2 games in!

 

[JJBlade]

I want Sheffield United to achieve relative success and maintain it.

Relative success is, be a Premier League Club or a club that is challenging to get back into the Premier League
Win a trophy
Never see Division Three or Division Four football ever again

That's all I want, but I'm sure many of the "realists" will explain why I am being unreasonable.

 

[HillmortonBlade]

Whereas you'll slide in a comment about the pitch apropos of nothing and away from the topic and expect it to go unresponded?

You can be snarky all you want, but you'll just end up back at square one, agreeing with me that McCabe, by hook or by crook, has to go. It's the only way this club will change it's direction and fulfil its potential. He is the common denominator throughout all of this. There's only parts of the stadium and the fans who have been with the club longer than he has and he has the power of decision making. And he is shit at it.

pommpey

Agreed, but doesn't there have to be someone ready to take his place?

 

[Fulwood Blade]

We're two games in and in meltdown. Unless I've missed all the optimistic posts?

This isn't meltdown - it's a reality check based on the fact that nearly all supporters can see the problems.

Meltdown comes if the problems aren't, for whatever reason, fixed.

UTB

 

[Pinchy]

Agreed, but doesn't there have to be someone ready to take his place?

Indeed there does. Its all there in the Companies Act. Sadly, when you have a psychotic obsession and your mind is twisted by bile and malice, things obvious to normal people go unrecognised,,,

 

[Pinchy]

Find me a post where I've defended or forgiven the board. Or said what they've done is "okay with me"There's a difference between quoting broad financial information and ranting opinions On a daily basis. Very few people think what McCabe has done is acceptable and most don't have sympathy for his losses - which you can't even admit are real - because it's all down to him at the end of the day.
You need to read what people who disagree with you actually say rather than saddle them with false opinions to bolster your argument.

Don't bother, mate. To this guy a debate means asking you leading questions in order to set up his next vitriolic outburst. He does boast one remarkable achievement. Over 900 posts and every one of them says the same thing in slightly different words.

Remarkable.