Worst United Manager

[Houso]

I must admit, I picked Weir. The football was just astonishingly poor, mainly due to the apparently view we could play like Barcelona despite having a mediocre League 1 team. You can partially forgive him being dogshit, as he was so inexperienced and I certainly don't hold him in the same disdain I do with Blackwell.

I agree with Peter, that insofar while Robson may have caused more damage, Weir was just the worst manager.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Not for United he wasn't.

Weir was sacked because of his total incompetence just ten matches into a League One season.

I've never seen a worse United team in all my life.

We were going into matches against the likes of Bradford and Rotherham hoping not to get thumped.

 

[Chali 2na]

Weir was sacked because of his total incompetence just ten matches into a League One season.

I've never seen a worse United team in all my life.

We were going into matches against the likes of Bradford and Rotherham hoping not to get thumped.

Weir's reign was dreadful, but again; you're talking about incompetence on the pitch.

Robson's legacy as United's worst manager since Warnock extends further than his team's perfomaces:

• He handed huge contracts to players unlikely to have any resale value; Ehiogu, Naysmith, Speed & Hendrie.
• He signed Billy Sharp for £2.5m, of the back off scoring 32 goals in 50 games for Scunthorpe and failed to play him, or played him in the wrong position. (Blackwell made the same mistake, and after being forced out of Sheff Utd, Sharp would score at least 0.5 goals a game in the championship for the next 5 years.)
• He turned a side that was only relegated from the Premier League on goal difference and only lost one player, was allowed to spend millions of pounds, yet left the side flirting with relegation.

To add insult to injury, years after leaving the club, he was filmed by an undercover reporter describing how people could break FA rules on owning mutiple clubs, and suggested United as a perfect example.

And the pitch, while Weir was admittedly worse, Robson did oversee one of the worst Sheffield derby performances I've ever seen.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Weir's reign was dreadful, but again; you're talking about incompetence on the pitch.

Robson's legacy as United's worst manager since Warnock extends further than his team's perfomaces:

• He handed huge contracts to players unlikely to have any resale value; Ehiogu, Naysmith, Speed & Hendrie.
• He signed Billy Sharp for £2.5m, of the back off scoring 32 goals in 50 games for Scunthorpe and failed to play him, or played him in the wrong position. (Blackwell made the same mistake, and after being forced out of Sheff Utd, Sharp would score at least 0.5 goals a game in the championship for the next 5 years.)
• He turned a side that was only relegated from the Premier League on goal difference and only lost one player, was allowed to spend millions of pounds, yet left the side flirting with relegation.

To add insult to injury, years after leaving the club, he was filmed by an undercover reporter describing how people could break FA rules on owning mutiple clubs, and suggested United as a perfect example.

And the pitch, while Weir was admittedly worse, Robson did oversee one of the worst Sheffield derby performances I've ever seen.

I agree with everything you've just said.

Doesn't change the fact that David Weir is by far the worst manager we've ever had.

 

[BushBlade]

Weir's reign was dreadful, but again; you're talking about incompetence on the pitch.

Robson's legacy as United's worst manager since Warnock extends further than his team's perfomaces:

• He handed huge contracts to players unlikely to have any resale value; Ehiogu, Naysmith, Speed & Hendrie.
• He signed Billy Sharp for £2.5m, of the back off scoring 32 goals in 50 games for Scunthorpe and failed to play him, or played him in the wrong position. (Blackwell made the same mistake, and after being forced out of Sheff Utd, Sharp would score at least 0.5 goals a game in the championship for the next 5 years.)
• He turned a side that was only relegated from the Premier League on goal difference and only lost one player, was allowed to spend millions of pounds, yet left the side flirting with relegation.

To add insult to injury, years after leaving the club, he was filmed by an undercover reporter describing how people could break FA rules on owning mutiple clubs, and suggested United as a perfect example.

And the pitch, while Weir was admittedly worse, Robson did oversee one of the worst Sheffield derby performances I've ever seen.

Why have a vote and ask for everyone’s opinion and then start telling people they’re wrong?

There’s no set definition of ‘worst manager’, just as there is no set definition of ‘big club’ so every answer is subjective. It’s someone’s opinion, based on what they consider ‘the worst’.

 

[Chali 2na]

Why have a vote and ask for everyone’s opinion and then start telling people they’re wrong?

There’s no set definition of ‘worst manager’, just as there is no set definition of ‘big club’ so every answer is subjective. It’s someone’s opinion, based on what they consider ‘the worst’.

Christ mate, what up with you? I'm not telling him he's wrong, I'm commenting on his reply: there's 8 pages of opinions and mine was just one of them.

At no point did I say. My opinion is factually correct or tell him he's wrong - don't see why you've suddenly decided to get outraged by my post and not any of the other 1.15m posts on GBC.

 

[Chali 2na]

Doesn't change the fact that David Weir is by far the worst manager we've ever had.

I disagree but hey-ho.

 

[BushBlade]

Christ mate, what up with you? I'm not telling him he's wrong, I'm commenting on his reply: there's 8 pages of opinions and mine was just one of them.

At no point did I say. My opinion is factually correct or tell him he's wrong - don't see why you've suddenly decided to get outraged by my post and not any of the other 1.15m posts on GBC.

Lol, I’m not outraged, just found it amusing.

 

[Chali 2na]

Lol, I’m not outraged, just found it amusing.

Do you always find it amusing when people reply to messages on threads they started?

 

[BushBlade]

Do you always find it amusing when people reply to messages on threads they started?

No, not always.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

I disagree but hey-ho.

Robson's 0-3 victory away against a pretty good Charlton team was very enjoyable.

That one match alone was better than everything Weir ever did.

Weir was a useless sack of cum. He's not even a football manager. He's just a man who was given a job he wasn't qualified for.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree though.

 

[Chali 2na]

No, not always.

And you said I was hard work to talk to

 

[tomtheblade]

Depends if you read the question as purely about the manager or about the manager and his relationship with the club.

On any 'absolute' scale, I would say Weir is a worse manager than Robson, who actually had a career and also achieved couple of things in promotion with Boro, and keeping West Brom up. Maybe we can't give him too much credit for these, but it's still more than Weir ever did.

Relative to United, Robson was worse for us. Both answers are accurate in some way, as both of them were unadulterated shite.

 

[BushBlade]

And you said I was hard work to talk to

You are when you’ve lost your sense of humour.
God, I hate international breaks. Can’t wait to get back to having a moan about Stevens/Lundstram/Stearman/Sharp/Clarke.

 

[BushBlade]

Depends if you read the question as purely about the manager or about the manager and his relationship with the club.

On any 'absolute' scale, I would say Weir is a worse manager than Robson, who actually had a career and also achieved couple of things in promotion with Boro, and keeping West Brom up. Maybe we can't give him too much credit for these, but it's still more than Weir ever did.

Relative to United, Robson was worse for us. Both answers are accurate in some way, as both of them were unadulterated shite.

Thatcher never sent people to the gas chambers though.

Oh sorry, wrong forum.

 

[Chali 2na]

You are when you’ve lost your sense of humour.
God, I hate international breaks. Can’t wait to get back to having a moan about Stevens/Lundstram/Stearman/Sharp/Clarke.

You say I've lost my sense of humour like you told a great joke and it went over my head, rather than you telling me off for using the forum for it's intended purpose.

 

[BushBlade]

You say I've lost my sense of humour like you told a great joke and it went over my head, rather than you telling me off for using the forum for it's intended purpose.

I wasn’t telling you off. Shithousing a bit, I’ll accept.

 

[blade too long]

me too with Adams , the die had been cast, we had already lost several essential players to injury and the loan players were getting injured
tactics had been change ad infinitum before he took over, was as unsettled an environment as possible
despite his sad death , will never forgive Speed for jumping ship when we needed all hands on deck just then
that procession of upheaval cost us big time

 

[Chali 2na]

I wasn’t telling you off. Shithousing a bit, I’ll accept.

I'll accept shithousing.

Sense of humour restored.

 

[Grizzly blade]

I’m torn.
Robson was without doubt a disaster, handed a big budget and although he brought a few good players in his poor ability as a manager was never in doubt and he bombed.
But as I’ve said many times, and from experience of speaking to players both experienced and young at the time, the biggest disaster was Blackwell.

Some may be shocked as his win record, play off final, blah blah...however it’s for more reasons than just a few results.
His style of play was dire, and the obvious decline that came as the budget reduced and his clear lack of transfer acumen and spotting a player was the reason we were relegated.
He too was responsible for wasting a huge budget, his insistence that the average players were kept at all costs and the refusal to play good players to their strengths, and then then leaving.
The quality in the squad that he left was a disgrace and unforgivable.
Couple to that the recent revelations about bullying, something I was told of at the time. His decision to release Lowton..and had the Academy man at the time (who’s name escapes me) not gone to McCabe directly players like Naughton, Lowton and do in would have never played for United. As we know Lowton went to Hungary for a while...this was the reason!! To save the managers face!

Blackwell is/was a badge collector, a nasty piece of work, shit player and shit manager.
At least Robson had a little bit of success in the game!! Blackwell achieved fuck all anywhere.

I could go on, but I get a little angry when I get talking about that man.
His decisions and dismantling of the playing squad was the legacy he left for others like Adams, Speed, Weir, Clough, Adkins to rebuild.
And despite their obvious failings too, each also had some positive impact on the currentl team. (Not Adams perhaps)

 

[ChipButtyBlade]

I went for Weirdo.

 

[Damski]

I'm not reading 9 pages. Obviously it's Weir. The White Obama.

 

[Gimli]

Surprised to see Robson being so many people’s worst. I can understand the argument for it given the squad and budget but we were absolutely dreadful under Weir, so dreadful that it has to be him for me.

Robson called the Derby ‘just another game’ before we were roundly pasted. That alone is deserving of first place in this ‘competition’ - aside from this, his general performance with a good squad and good budget was terrible.

To use a cooking analogy - if two chefs are told to make a tasty meal, and one is given more expensive and better quality ingredients than the other, you’d be more disappointed if his meal was awful - and what Robson served up was not good enough with the ingredients he was given

 

[Selly]

It's Robson.

Some on here are arguing for Blackwell.

That's the same Blackwell that with the exact same squad as Robson had, rocketed us up the league and nearly got us in the PO. Imagine what a good manager could have done with that squad and a couple more months.

That's how bad Robson was, took a squad that should have been comfortably top three into one looking over its shoulder at the bottom 3.

 

[Revolution]

Robson called the Derby ‘just another game’ before we were roundly pasted.

Carlos said something similar before the Bouncing day massacre. It was apparent that he (and his players) didn't realise how up for the game we would be. Robson made the same mistake.

 

[SteveS]

This was last discussed here a couple of years ago, early in the Wilder reign. My position remains the same: Bryan Robson, on the basis that he set the club back years: handed a huge budget he squandered most of it and managed the team poorly to boot when a semi competent manager with a reasonable transfer policy would have walked what was a pretty mediocre division. The direct result of frittering away that cash was McCabe's decision to sell off the family silver which had a knock on effect of relegation.

Weir was worse as a team manager, but we got rid of him before he could do major damage. Ubfortunately Robson had time to screw us for years to come.

If we were going to talk about managers prior to 2007, Harry Haslam would tie with Robson. His incompetence was responsible for 2 relegations and stripped the club of a lot of young talent.

Selling Alan Quinn and Leigh Bromby and replacing them with Gary Speed and Ugo Eghiogu. The man was out of his depth.

 

[SteveS]

Where's Chris Wilder? He's fucking shit, how he gets a job in football is beyond me. He hasn't got a clue on how to play the game, or what players to sign...And only putting 4 past Villa...fucking unacceptable!! Robson IN!

Chris Wilder is one of United’s best managers because he lifted them from Division 1 to the Premiership in two years. Like Dave Bassett, Neil Warnock and so far Paul Heckingbottom, Chris Wilder could only take the Blades so far.

 

[1973Blade]

Has everyone forgotten Adrian Heath?!

 

[McDonagh Blade]

Has everyone forgotten Adrian Heath?!

Post Premier League?

 

[georgebernardshaw]

I can’t imagine what sort of mood made me go through this thread.

Fuck me, we’ve been through some dark times, haven’t we?