work on kop to start

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With the core base of supporters being what it is at this level, WHEN we make and become established in the Premiership it will be a definite requirement.
 
it will go ahead costs a lot of money to get the extension , and the kop is ripe for development , if only to remove the uprights and the board wants new bigger flasher offices
 
Looks good, I do think the stadium is becoming a bit run down........hopefully this will be done in time for our return to the premiership :tumbleweed:
 
It doesn't say work is to start, they got planning permission 5 years, this is just permission been granted for an extension to that. No way will they do this until we are at least in the championship.
 
Presty said:
No. Just an extension to the planning permission.
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I agree, its probably just an extension of the planning permission as it was expiring.

However, it opens up a question or two when it does come to the extension of the Kop. Who pays for it? My understanding was that the Prince bought into the Football Club, but McCabe had removed all of the infrastructure from the Club, Is that right?

It also makes you wonder, now that this subject has come up, the timing is perfect in the wake of the Spurs game which was a Sell out, will the new, ambitious top brass like Baki and Phipps start to think that extending the ground is worthwhile so that its ready for when we (eventually) get success. Its obviously not going to be worth it for one, two or three huge cup games a season, but we want to be ready if we finally get up to the Premier League

I know that Phipps has one target to achieve this season, promotion, so its unlikely that his focus will be shifted, but his and Baki's influence and enthusiasm may be filtering back to the financers back in Saudi Arabia.

And one other factor, local rivalry. Pigs have just got their takeover, will they be looking towards S6 and ensuring that those little upstarts don't start taking our limelight which we've got back from our cup games in the last 18 months or so
 
Wards said:
Kop needs revamping tbf. It's a bit of a shitheap, with a ridiculously low gradient and those god awful pillars. It was pretty outdated by the time we'd finished building it.
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The article just mentions more seating at the top. As you say, the rake is terrible, which is the result of putting seats on what was a terrace and how we managed to include pillars in the early 90s is beyond me. Well, it isn't, the whole thing was a cheap solution, we're good at that :-)
 
Done on the cheap at the time, the old kop steps are still under the new ones, there was talk of removing the pillars a few years ago but the downward slide through the divisions soon stopped that happening. Lazy work from Telegraph/Star again
 
why get an extension , if we arent interested in starting , would you get a renewal on planning permission for your house , pay solicitors pay fees , to sit on your hands

and maybe , just maybe we might actually have some money , theres a thought to chew over and dont say why not blow it all on players we cant rules wont let us
If we have genuine intentions to get back prem side , we will need the seats in 2 to 4 years time
 
I was reliably informed that after the kop was finished under it is a rather large pool of water most of the time, possibly from pitch drainage but more likely from lack of kop drainage.
 
blade too long said:
why get an extension , if we arent interested in starting , would you get a renewal on planning permission for your house , pay solicitors pay fees , to sit on your hands
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I imagine it's easier than letting it expire and then starting from scratch to get a new one when you need it.
 



blade too long said:
why get an extension , if we arent interested in starting , would you get a renewal on planning permission for your house , pay solicitors pay fees , to sit on your hands
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If it's say £2k (thinking on home terms not footy terms) to extend the permission but the cost to do the build is £20k then it's understandable why they have extended it. The initial costs would have been considerably more and if they let the permission expire, would have to do it all again from scratch.
 
If you let a planning permission lapse then its back to square one. Re-submission and the dangerous possibility that someone may object to the development, be they locals or the planning committee of the council.

The fees to extend the planning approval are insignificant compared to the trouble that would be caused if a new submission had to be made at a future date.

For once I don't think the journalism is lazy at all, I think it pretty much says it as it is?
 
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blade too long said:
why get an extension , if we arent interested in starting , would you get a renewal on planning permission for your house , pay solicitors pay fees , to sit on your hands
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Oh, the will is there to do it, just not until its needed.

Obtaining that planning permisson cost a lot of money in professional and planning fee's - renewing it is a paperwork excersice for a planning consultant - pence in the scheme of things.
 
Work on the Kop would obviously occur first, if a project ever went underway. It makes the most infrastructural sense without necessarily having to be in the top flight - unrestricted viewing on arguable the most important stand with a cheeky 10% capacity increase. And more Shoreham noise, potentially.

There's also a lot of dead land behind the Kop (read: unidentified slag heap).

The party piece improvement would undoubtedly be the South Stand as it's such a big undertaking. Clearly that would only ever be remotely considered if we were firmly rooted in the Promised Land.

On that note, Liverpool's new 21,000-seater main stand will be a sight to behold.
 
Is it true our kop is one of the biggest in the country?
I think "theirs" might even be the second biggest behind villa's?
 
madeinsheffield said:
Done on the cheap at the time, the old kop steps are still under the new ones, there was talk of removing the pillars a few years ago but the downward slide through the divisions soon stopped that happening. Lazy work from Telegraph/Star again
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I'm not an architect, design engineer or a builder but removing the pillars would be madness, madness I tell you. The roof would fall off. Oh, the horror ;)
 



I love the Kop just the way it is. I've had some of the happiest moments of my life on that old girl.

Changing it would be like someone performing some dodgy surgery on my old ma.
 
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