Will we send Wednesday down?

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They’re obviously down but we’ll be the ones painting them in red if we get given the mathematical opportunity. I hope it plays out for us.

I just want to beat them, beyond that, I really don’t care. Sending a team down in February is pretty meaningless as everyone knows it’s a case of when, not if they get relegated.

Sending them down on the last day of the season and watching them cry would be amazing. But at this point of the season their fans aren’t going to be that bothered because they accepted relegation months ago.
 



I just want to beat them, beyond that, I really don’t care. Sending a team down in February is pretty meaningless as everyone knows it’s a case of when, not if they get relegated.

Sending them down on the last day of the season and watching them cry would be amazing. But at this point of the season their fans aren’t going to be that bothered because they accepted relegation months ago.
Bollox
Anything to shaft those piggy twats is golden.
 
If roles were reversed, they would want to humiliate us in the most complete and total fashion. And I would say fair play to them.

This is one of the bitterest rivalries in the sport and both clubs should make the most of every opportunity to grind the other one into the dirt.

I hope we send them down, whilst sticking 5 or 6 past them in the process. I also hope the catering from the BL end kiosks gives them all the shits.
 
If roles were reversed, they would want to humiliate us in the most complete and total fashion. And I would say fair play to them.

This is one of the bitterest rivalries in the sport and both clubs should make the most of every opportunity to grind the other one into the dirt.

I hope we send them down, whilst sticking 5 or 6 past them in the process. I also hope the catering from the BL end kiosks gives them all the shits.


To go with the gallons of piss that apparently rain down on them every time they play at BL?
 
Beating them and seeing the official 'R' next to their name on the table would be amazing and results in the boxing day song becoming even more meaningless.
 
16 games remaining /48 points possible so 41 points is their maximum. And Blackburn are on 32 if Blackburn and WBA each get at least 1 point in the next 3.We can relegate them with our game.They could be relegated before we get to them we will have to wait and see but we have a good chance to do it
 
So we have a chance to be the one that relegates them and potentially gets them to equal the longest non-scoring run of 12 games?

Ouch!

That would be quirky coincidence.

We play on the Sunday so it could be that the maths has already confirmed it.
 
Funny all this stuff about will we or won’t we. To be honest I couldn’t give less of a shite.
Yknow the old classic "what would Jesus do?" When it comes to them I always think about what they would do.

If we as a club were in tatters, unofficially relegated about 4 months ago anyway, they had a decent squad and on paper they should put 5 or 6 past us. Do you reckon them and their fans would turn up to the Lane with a bit of humility and sympathy to our situation. Many of us know one of the loonies first hand some as family members or close friends and can you ever imagine one of them saying they wouldn't care?

Hypothetically if they spanked us while we were on minus points, had a depleted squad of reserves with no confidence but they put the R next to our name it would still be spoken about in a thousand years (if they last that long)

Any other team I wouldn't be too fussy but to mug them off at the Lane and then laugh at them immediately is exactly what they deserve. If it doesn't happen I won't be moaning about it but if we ended up sending them down that would be a marvelous little cherry on the double layered 3 points cake.
 



Yknow the old classic "what would Jesus do?" When it comes to them I always think about what they would do.

If we as a club were in tatters, unofficially relegated about 4 months ago anyway, they had a decent squad and on paper they should put 5 or 6 past us. Do you reckon them and their fans would turn up to the Lane with a bit of humility and sympathy to our situation. Many of us know one of the loonies first hand some as family members or close friends and can you ever imagine one of them saying they wouldn't care?

Hypothetically if they spanked us while we were on minus points, had a depleted squad of reserves with no confidence but they put the R next to our name it would still be spoken about in a thousand years (if they last that long)

Any other team I wouldn't be too fussy but to mug them off at the Lane and then laugh at them immediately is exactly what they deserve. If it doesn't happen I won't be moaning about it but if we ended up sending them down that would be a marvelous little cherry on the double layered 3 points cake.
It is such a unique set of circumstances to most likely never be repeated.

Either their captain sends them down on Valentines Day or we do immediately afterwards.
 
Selly did the maths in the Pigs thread in the other football section. Praise Selly not me I'm merely copying and pasting;

They will have 13 games remaining after the Derby. That's a maximum of 39 points.

If they finish the game 40 points or more behind 4th from bottom then they will be down. In order for us to relegate them they would need to be fewer than 43 behind 4th from bottom (because if they are 43 behind 4th from bottom they are already down)

So:
if they enter the game with us 39 or fewer points behind - we cannot relegate them*
if they enter the game with us 40 points behind and we win, they go down**
if they enter the game with us 41 points behind and we win OR draw, they go down**
if they enter the game with us 42 points behind and we win OR draw, they go down**
if they enter the game with us 43+points behind they are already down**

* If we happen to be 4th from bottom then there are some scenarios where we can relegate them depending on how far they are behind 5th from bottom, but frankly the permutations are too complex for me to bother doing the maths

** Subject to any pending points deduction applied to teams like, for example, Leicester City. It's possible they could be mathematically relegated - then not relegated - then mathematically relegated again...

NOTE: They are already 37 points behind 4th from bottom...
 
It is such a unique set of circumstances to most likely never be repeated.

Either their captain sends them down on Valentines Day or we do immediately afterwards.
Oof I never even considered that.

Would I want us to settle their fate or him...

Conundrum to end them all
 
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The Let's-Send-Them-Down requirements
  1. As it stands, they are 39 points from safety with 48 to play for

  2. They will need to go into the match on the 22nd between 40 and 42 points from safety. Fewer than 40 and they could mathematically stay up after the Derby, more than 42 and they will already be down

  3. The side fourth from bottom therefore needs to end the day on February 21st on a minimum of 33 points plus however many Wednesday gain in their next two and a maximum of 35 plus Wednesday's points from next two matches

  4. This means that, assuming Wednesday lose at Swansea and at home against Millwall:
    1. Charlton (35 points) need to lose their next four or
    2. Portsmouth (33) pick up a maximum of one point from their next 4 and/or
    3. Norwich (33) pick up a maximum of one point from their next 3 and/or
    4. Blackburn & West Brom (both 32) can pick up a maximum of 3 points from their next 3 and/or
    5. Oxford (27) can pick up a maximum of 7 points from their next 3
  5. Charlton play Portsmouth in a rearranged fixture on Feb 17th. 1) and 2) are therefore mutually exclusive, it's either-or if Wednesday lose their next two

  6. Norwich play Blackburn, Oxford and West Brom in their three fixtures so will have a big say in this

  7. If four of the six teams meet those criteria then we will be able to relegate them

  8. Add Wednesday's points from next two matches to the requirement above - although two wins for Wednesday would mean we couldn't relegate them because of those matches between the teams reducing the points they could get
 
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So this has been a shit season for us, we’re just a couple of defeats away from it ending prematurely in February with no more parachute money coming in and all our best players potentially leaving the club in the summer.…Yet, some fans on here will be doing delirious cartwheels in the street if we send an already relegated, League One standard club down to errr…League One.
 
So this has been a shit season for us, we’re just a couple of defeats away from it ending prematurely in February with no more parachute money coming in and all our best players potentially leaving the club in the summer.…Yet, some fans on here will be doing delirious cartwheels in the street if we send an already relegated, League One standard club down to errr…League One.
It's not just any club. And we're also just a couple of wins away from play-off contention.

This season will be more enjoyable than the last whatever happens
 
They're as good as down already, as we know, but to beat them and confirm it would be nice and status quo playing over the tannoy at the end, you know the song!
If we do send them down, will be interesting which song is selected.

A few suggestions…

Status Quo - Down Down (as you’ve already mentioned)
Men At Work - Land Down Under
Kool and the Gang - Get Down On It
Arctic Monkeys - When The Sun (pigs) Goes Down
James - Sit Down
ELO - Don’t Bring Me Down
Elton John - Don’t Let The Sun Go Down on Me
 



I’m enjoying the current Pig « couldn’t care less » stance and other rationalisations.

Truth is they’re shitting it. 🤣
 

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