Wilder to WBA

[Blade56]

Telling young players to stay for first team football isn’t the same though. If Wilder jumped ship, he would be steering the next one, not sitting in reserve.

I know, I'm grasping at straws in my head.

The board need to break the bank to give him a big contract and plenty of cash to spend in January. But this is United we're talking about here so it's unlikely!

Agreed, but in my 60 years following the Blades this has never happened.

 

[YES Blade]

He's already said he can acheave his ambitions with us,why would he go to a struggling premiership club when he is building something here.Blades are his club and average clubs won't appeal to him ,he will get financial rewards with us

I hope the board aren't as complacent as some of our fans are, clubs like West Brom coming in for Wilder should be taken very seriously.

West Brom may be a struggling Premier League club, but they are currently in their eighth straight season in the Prem, when was the last time we managed that? They also have a decent squad, which being established in the Prem allows you to build.

To me it would be very naive to dismiss West Brom when they would be a good move for a Championship manager.

 

[Highbury_Blade]

He's already said he can acheave his ambitions with us,why would he go to a struggling premiership club when he is building something here.Blades are his club and average clubs won't appeal to him ,he will get financial rewards with us

Indeed. Look at the premier league table at the moment. positions 7-10 are occupied by Burnley, Watford, Brighton & Huddersfield respectively. Of course Wilder can achieve at least that level with us if those teams can.

 

[Aston max]

Has anyone got a meme of Bill Murray staring at a groundhog?

 

[madeinsheffield]

Have a listen to one his most recent interviews, he constantly talks about this being a special club and the bond between, him, players, staff and us lot being something "you can't buy".

He's the main drive behind that, I really can't see him being tempted away, not from what is essentially his dream job. Just hope the board support him in the way he deserves and I'm sure we'll be ok

 

[BushBlade]

If Tony Pulis is\ was a West Brom manager, then why not Coleman. His track record is as good, Fulham 3rd tier, 2nd tier, then premiership. Pulis, cup final and promotion to premier with stoke. But since Coleman’s stint with wales, I think is stock is slightly higher than Pulis. Not that I give a shit about either of them.
As long as CW stays, don’t care where the rest are. Apart from Carlos of course, may he have many more years with the pigs.

I think I've worked it out. In the championship, the biggest attribute a manager can have is to be able to create team spirit. That also seems to be Coleman's best attribute. So he's gone for a job he thinks he has a good chance of succeeding at. That will raise his stock again and put him in line for bigger jobs. He could well save Sunderland and take them up next season. The players will then have belief in him and they'll have momentum. Long term it could be a better option than trying to take over from Pulis. It's probably easier to keep Sunderland up than West Brom.

 

[Kev Gee]

WBA wouldn't gamble their pl status on it.

Sam Allardyce or some other manager with PL experience will get it.

 

[super_pig]

WBA wouldn't gamble their pl status on it.

Sam Allardyce or some other manager with PL experience will get it.

someone like that Tony Pulis guy.. err. hold on a minute

 

[DifferentClass]

WBA wouldn't gamble their pl status on it.

Sam Allardyce or some other manager with PL experience will get it.

Baggiepuss.

You heard it here first.

 

[BushBlade]

Baggiepuss.

You heard it here first.

Good call. If that's your nickname for Pardew.

 

[Ricky]

 

[bertieblade]

Why in God’s name do premiership clubs recycle the same shite managers who consistently fail. In any other walk of life word gets around and the only job a failed manager can get is on a lower pay scale with less responsibility.
Chris Wilder would be guaranteed to do a better job than 25% of the guys in the premiership, but thankfully he is a blade and Football chairmen have not got a clue.
If however he finds that his ambitions are not matched by our board then we will miss the best opportunity to establish ourselves at the top table since the days of harry Bassett, similar managers and currently working miracles with similar budgets.
Let’s see what January brings, but do not get too excited.

 

[The Crab]

Why in God’s name do premiership clubs recycle the same shite managers who consistently fail. In any other walk of life word gets around and the only job a failed manager can get is on a lower pay scale with less responsibility.
Chris Wilder would be guaranteed to do a better job than 25% of the guys in the premiership, but thankfully he is a blade and Football chairmen have not got a clue.
If however he finds that his ambitions are not matched by our board then we will miss the best opportunity to establish ourselves at the top table since the days of harry Bassett, similar managers and currently working miracles with similar budgets.
Let’s see what January brings, but do not get too excited.

How I'd feel today if I was a West Brom fan.............................

 

[Darthblade]

I was speaking to a pig that is apparently close to Wilder, and the only way he’d leave us is if a massive club or the England job came up.


This is of course assuming all other things stay equal and the board continues to support him.

Did you say a MASSIVE Club ......

Nooooo ...... he wouldn't go there ......

UTB & FTP

 

[itsinyerblood]

A thought.....if the day arrived when Wilder chose to move to another club, it's not beyond the realm of possibility that he'd return for some of our players, is it?

Imagine if this were to happen...and soon. The likes of Fleck, Coutts, JOC...possibly Baldock, and anyone else he felt could do a job for him. I doubt it will happen but who can tell what's around the corner?

 

[blademark]

A thought.....if the day arrived when Wilder chose to move to another club, it's not beyond the realm of possibility that he'd return for some of our players, is it?

Imagine if this were to happen...and soon. The likes of Fleck, Coutts, JOC...possibly Baldock, and anyone else he felt could do a job for him. I doubt it will happen but who can tell what's around the corner?

To be honest, I think Chris would be mortally offended by what you just asked.

 

[itsinyerblood]

To be honest, I think Chris would be mortally offended by what you just asked.

To be honest, it's naive to think Wilder wouldn't consider this as a worthwhile option. Loyalties would change, so why this fanciful idea that Wilder would be offended.....he's done it at previous clubs he's managed, so why would it be any different if he left United?

 

[blademark]

To be honest, it's naive to think Wilder wouldn't consider this as a worthwhile option. Loyalties would change, so why this fanciful idea that Wilder would be offended.....he's done it at previous clubs he's managed, so why would it be any different if he left United?

I guess I just have more faith and respect for him than you evidently do mate.

 

[BushBlade]

Why in God’s name do premiership clubs recycle the same shite managers who consistently fail. In any other walk of life word gets around and the only job a failed manager can get is on a lower pay scale with less responsibility.
Chris Wilder would be guaranteed to do a better job than 25% of the guys in the premiership, but thankfully he is a blade and Football chairmen have not got a clue.
If however he finds that his ambitions are not matched by our board then we will miss the best opportunity to establish ourselves at the top table since the days of harry Bassett, similar managers and currently working miracles with similar budgets.
Let’s see what January brings, but do not get too excited.

That's not really true though is it? Plenty of people get the sack and get other jobs, particularly at high level management. There are plenty of CEOs who have 'failed'. The reality is that there are a limited number of people who can do the job and in football a manager often gets the sack because he's being blamed for things beyond his control, like injuries, cutting back on the budget and, these days, terrible recruitment by 'Directors of Football' and the like.

A 'failure' is someone like Weir, who just couldn't do the job. Pardew, like many managers, has a mixed record which includes taking a team to a cup final and getting another into Europe. Personally, I think he's a nob but he's not a failure, he's a capable manager at the top level, which is exactly what West Brom need at this point in time.

The time to gamble is in the summer, where a new manager can bring in players and have a pre-season to work with his team and get his ideas across, not half way through the season in a relegation fight, it's just too much of a risk.

Chris Wilder is no more guaranteed to do a job in the PL than multiple promotion winning Adkins was guaranteed to do a job for us. Warnock is great at championship level but he's never quite managed to establish himself as a PL manager, CW could be the same, no one knows until he tries.

 

[Blade58]

Why in God’s name do premiership clubs recycle the same shite managers who consistently fail. In any other walk of life word gets around and the only job a failed manager can get is on a lower pay scale with less responsibility.
Chris Wilder would be guaranteed to do a better job than 25% of the guys in the premiership, but thankfully he is a blade and Football chairmen have not got a clue.
If however he finds that his ambitions are not matched by our board then we will miss the best opportunity to establish ourselves at the top table since the days of harry Bassett, similar managers and currently working miracles with similar budgets.
Let’s see what January brings, but do not get too excited.

Don't know why. The mind boggles, but I'm so fkin glad

 

[itsinyerblood]

I guess I just have more faith and respect for him than you evidently do mate.

Suggesting I have no respect for Wilder is......well it's stupid to be truthful. I think he's a decent man trying to make headway in a volatile, robust, and unforgiving business.

What I don't think is that CW is foolish or blind to what a talented player might bring to a team he manages. If you feel that Wilder would turn a blind eye to a player who might improve whatever team he managed is naive, and dare I say, a little innocent.

 

[blademark]

Suggesting I have no respect for Wilder is......well it's stupid to be truthful. I think he's a decent man trying to make headway in a volatile, robust, and unforgiving business.

What I don't think is that CW is foolish or blind to what a talented player might bring to a team he manages. If you feel that Wilder would turn a blind eye to a player who might improve whatever team he managed is naive, and dare I say, a little innocent.

LOL, I'll take 'innocent' at my age, but stupid I ain't. I choose to believe that in the event of Wilder moving on to another club, he would not pillage our better players, as I happen to think he is one of the most principled guys in football, and he is a self proclaimed SUFC nut. Only time will tell though, and I respect your opposite opinion.

 

[itsinyerblood]

LOL, I'll take 'innocent' at my age, but stupid I ain't. I choose to believe that in the event of Wilder moving on to another club, he would not pillage our better players, as I happen to think he is one of the most principled guys in football, and he is a self proclaimed SUFC nut. Only time will tell though, and I respect your opposite opinion.

There's much in your last post that I'd choose to support. I think Wilder has a decent moral radar, he instinctively understands what's right and what should be adhered to. I doubt very much that he's a puritan, but he does like a decent set of behaviour patterns from those around him. I also think that he understands professional football, so asking CW to not consider his current employers, and fans, with respect and the willingness to buy the best players he's able to is something I feel he wouldn't have too much trouble doing. If that means buying the best players from his previous club(s) then I doubt he'd struggle with this.