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Enough to send a fucking glass eye to sleep...

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Memo to mods: please find a different way of showing that threads like this have been moved. I just saw the heading 'Wilder to WBA' with a blue arrow pointing off the screen. I nearly had a heart-attack.;)
 
sheffielder said:
I am confused, why is Coleman better than Sunderland. His league management record is wank
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If Tony Pulis is\ was a West Brom manager, then why not Coleman. His track record is as good, Fulham 3rd tier, 2nd tier, then premiership. Pulis, cup final and promotion to premier with stoke. But since Coleman’s stint with wales, I think is stock is slightly higher than Pulis. Not that I give a shit about either of them.
As long as CW stays, don’t care where the rest are. Apart from Carlos of course, may he have many more years with the pigs. :D
 
TomJonesBlade said:
SkyBet have him at 16/1? Even fucking Megson is at 10's. Hardly nailed on.

Turning a boring and defensive Pulis side into an exciting, attacking Wilder side would be a gigantic task. You're not going to get time to make a success of that kind of task in the Premier League
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Tip of the day. Don't bet on Wilder going to WBA...and save thi sen a quid.
 
Jonboy60 said:
If Tony Pulis is\ was a West Brom manager, then why not Coleman. His track record is as good, Fulham 3rd tier, 2nd tier, then premiership. Pulis, cup final and promotion to premier with stoke. But since Coleman’s stint with wales, I think is stock is slightly higher than Pulis. Not that I give a shit about either of them.
As long as CW stays, don’t care where the rest are. Apart from Carlos of course, may he have many more years with the pigs. :D
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Coleman joined Fulham's coaching staff in October 2002 under Tigana.[27] He later succeeded the Frenchman as caretaker manager in April 2003, and steered Fulham away from relegation danger. He was named as Fulham's permanent manager in May 2003, beating the more experienced Klaus Toppmöllerand George Burley to the post, and also became the youngest manager in the Premier League.[28]

His first full season in charge saw Fulham finish a surprise ninth place, as many pundits tipped them to struggle and for Coleman to be sacked.[29] Many of Fulham's key players, such as Edwin van der Sar, Louis Saha, Steed Malbranque and Luís Boa Morte, were sold in the following years and Fulham did not repeat their earlier successes under Coleman though he kept them clear of relegation. He was sacked on 10 April 2007 in a move that caught some observers by surprise, after a seven-game winless run that left the club four points above the relegation zone.[30]

Real Sociedad
Coleman moved abroad to manage recently relegated Segunda División side Real Sociedadon 4 July 2007, after being recommended to the club by fellow Welshman and former Real Sociedad manager John Toshack.[31] He was linked with Bolton Wanderers in October 2007[32] though nothing came of it. With the club in 5th place and having only lost once in its previous eleven games, Coleman resigned as manager on 16 January 2008, citing a divergence in vision for the club with newly elected President Iñaki Badiola.[33]

Coventry City
Coleman was appointed manager of Championship side Coventry City on 19 February 2008, signing a three-and-a-half-year contract. He replaced Iain Dowie, who had been sacked by new owner Ray Ranson.[34]

On 26 August 2008, the BBC reported that Coleman was no longer interested in the Wales national team.[35] He later said that his words had been misinterpreted; when answering a question on whether Coventry striker Freddy Eastwood was fit to play for Wales, he meant to say that he wanted Eastwood fit for club before returning to international duty.[36] On 4 May 2010, Coleman was sacked following Coventry's 19th-place finish during the 2009–10 season,[37] their lowest league finish in more than 45 years. They would be relegated two years later.

AEL
On 26 May 2011, Coleman was appointed as manager of Greek side AEL.[38] In January 2012, Coleman announced that because of financial troubles at the club he would be quitting from his position as manager.[39]

Pre-Wales. Not glittering.
 
alcoblade said:
Fixed that.
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Trouble is, that figure doesn't represent what the manager necessarily gets to spend. Should CW or any other manager go there he'll have to deal with this season's intake, the very same players who've taken WBA to the bottom half of the Premiership. Given what he's built, and continues to build, at t'Lane, my take is that he'd prefer to continue with what he's already assembled rather than sorting out the wheat from the chaff, and then start all over again, and not necessarily while WBA are in the Premiership.
 
BushBlade said:
Coleman joined Fulham's coaching staff in October 2002 under Tigana.[27] He later succeeded the Frenchman as caretaker manager in April 2003, and steered Fulham away from relegation danger. He was named as Fulham's permanent manager in May 2003, beating the more experienced Klaus Toppmöllerand George Burley to the post, and also became the youngest manager in the Premier League.[28]

His first full season in charge saw Fulham finish a surprise ninth place, as many pundits tipped them to struggle and for Coleman to be sacked.[29] Many of Fulham's key players, such as Edwin van der Sar, Louis Saha, Steed Malbranque and Luís Boa Morte, were sold in the following years and Fulham did not repeat their earlier successes under Coleman though he kept them clear of relegation. He was sacked on 10 April 2007 in a move that caught some observers by surprise, after a seven-game winless run that left the club four points above the relegation zone.[30]

Real Sociedad
Coleman moved abroad to manage recently relegated Segunda División side Real Sociedadon 4 July 2007, after being recommended to the club by fellow Welshman and former Real Sociedad manager John Toshack.[31] He was linked with Bolton Wanderers in October 2007[32] though nothing came of it. With the club in 5th place and having only lost once in its previous eleven games, Coleman resigned as manager on 16 January 2008, citing a divergence in vision for the club with newly elected President Iñaki Badiola.[33]

Coventry City
Coleman was appointed manager of Championship side Coventry City on 19 February 2008, signing a three-and-a-half-year contract. He replaced Iain Dowie, who had been sacked by new owner Ray Ranson.[34]

On 26 August 2008, the BBC reported that Coleman was no longer interested in the Wales national team.[35] He later said that his words had been misinterpreted; when answering a question on whether Coventry striker Freddy Eastwood was fit to play for Wales, he meant to say that he wanted Eastwood fit for club before returning to international duty.[36] On 4 May 2010, Coleman was sacked following Coventry's 19th-place finish during the 2009–10 season,[37] their lowest league finish in more than 45 years. They would be relegated two years later.

AEL
On 26 May 2011, Coleman was appointed as manager of Greek side AEL.[38] In January 2012, Coleman announced that because of financial troubles at the club he would be quitting from his position as manager.[39]

Pre-Wales. Not glittering.
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And Pulis ?. I think my post, unintentionally, suggests I’m championing Coleman. On the contrary, I was just putting myself in his shoes as to where I think he would have gone, given the choice of Sunderland or West Brom. For that scenario, he would have had to have been approached by WB. All academic now, as the WB job came up after he was appointed Sunderland manager. But I think they would have, and he may have took it. IMO.
 
Jonboy60 said:
And Pulis ?. I think my post, unintentionally, suggests I’m championing Coleman. On the contrary, I was just putting myself in his shoes as to where I think he would have gone, given the choice of Sunderland or West Brom. For that scenario, he would have had to have been approached by WB. All academic now, as the WB job came up after he was appointed Sunderland manager. But I think they would have, and he may have took it. IMO.
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Well, your post said Coleman took Fulham up from the third to the PL, which he didn't. If he had have, he'd have a better shout for the West Brom job.

One promotion with Stoke is more than Coleman has won and Coleman's football, from what I can remember, wasn't great. He's certainly not the Welsh Wilder. I don't see how swapping Pulis with Coleman is going to change much at West Brom tbh. But it's a very reactive move from West Brom due to fan pressure and I'm not sure if they've even considered how they're going to move forward. Whoever comes in can't just get Pulis's players to start playing like Man City. The sensible move would have been to ignore the fans until the end of the season and then make a change (or to have listened to them when they started moaning last season and got rid at the end of that one).

I'm surprised Coleman didn't wait a bit longer as the West Brom job was looking like it may come up last week, Pulis getting the sack isn't a surprise. Likewise, the Swansea job could be available soon and maybe either Watford or Burnley. Maybe he didn't think he'd get any of them so went for Sunderland?
 
BushBlade said:
Well, your post said Coleman took Fulham up from the third to the PL, which he didn't. If he had have, he'd have a better shout for the West Brom job.

One promotion with Stoke is more than Coleman has won and Coleman's football, from what I can remember, wasn't great. He's certainly not the Welsh Wilder. I don't see how swapping Pulis with Coleman is going to change much at West Brom tbh. But it's a very reactive move from West Brom due to fan pressure and I'm not sure if they've even considered how they're going to move forward. Whoever comes in can't just get Pulis's players to start playing like Man City. The sensible move would have been to ignore the fans until the end of the season and then make a change (or to have listened to them when they started moaning last season and got rid at the end of that one).

I'm surprised Coleman didn't wait a bit longer as the West Brom job was looking like it may come up last week, Pulis getting the sack isn't a surprise. Likewise, the Swansea job could be available soon and maybe either Watford or Burnley. Maybe he didn't think he'd get any of them so went for Sunderland?
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Your right about Coleman and Fulham, the promotions were with him being a player, not the manager. My mistake.
As a side note, with Pulis having so much success keeping teams in trouble safe. Begs the question why they got rid of him with the trouble they are in. If he wasn’t already their ex manager, he’d be perfect for the job. :rolleyes:
 

N20 Blade said:
Sooner or later a PL chairman will be really brave and ignore the obvious; I read this earlier and it emphasises the importance of having the right manager (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41902664). Howe, Dyche and Wilder are the most talented English managers in the game.
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You are also sometimes suited to a club. Howe is suited to Bournemouth, he jumped for Burnley and the job was too big for him. Dyche is perfect for Burnley and would be stupid to leave them now given where they are in the table. Wilder too.

Also - Moyes was suited to Everton and has gone downhill ever since he left
 
Highbury_Blade said:
I was speaking to a pig that is apparently close to Wilder, and the only way he’d leave us is if a massive club or the England job came up.
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Lord Wilder is leaving us for the Swillsborough job when CC gets evicted on Saturday 13th January ?


You need to stop having conversations with the swill informed.

See how easy it is to distort what someone says.
 
itsinyerblood said:
Trouble is, that figure doesn't represent what the manager necessarily gets to spend. Should CW or any other manager go there he'll have to deal with this season's intake, the very same players who've taken WBA to the bottom half of the Premiership. Given what he's built, and continues to build, at t'Lane, my take is that he'd prefer to continue with what he's already assembled rather than sorting out the wheat from the chaff, and then start all over again, and not necessarily while WBA are in the Premiership.
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I was talking about his wage, not the spending power, though I take your point! :)


But I remain bemused that so many think Wilder has not one eye on the wedge, unlike the rest of the planet.
 
alcoblade said:
I was talking about his wage, not the spending power, though I take your point! :)


But I remain bemused that so many think Wilder has not one eye on the wedge, unlike the rest of the planet.
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Your point is completely fair, CW wouldn't be human if he didn't consider his future and his family. I doubt if £10 mil is the going rate for a WBA manager (although you might be better informed).

Certainly, his mantra of, "I'm loyal, not sentimental", would suggest that you take CW for granted at your peril. As we continue to move forward, meaning with an eye on promotion, this club will have to adjust to the absolutes that confront any Premiership club. Wages and fees will rise, so the currently lauded dressing room camaraderie, which I love and contributes to the way we're playing, will be tested. The key is gradual adjustment, ensuring that as we progress we reflect whatever rising income levels come our way.

I take nothing for granted. Long-term inertia has harmed the Blades, and it's only since Wilder arrived that we've shown anything like the drive and ambition to compete with supposedly better clubs. Once this began it's clear to me that there's only one way forward. I'm not daft, I don't expect sudden outpourings of millions of pounds, but this process eventually hits every team that gains promotion to the Premiership. Keeping Wilder on board will require forward thinking. I hope that CW and the owners wish to work together. Success on the pitch will ensure that the employees of the club, and not just those who own it, are realistically compensated for their efforts.
 
Wonder how many times CW will have said to young players like Brooke's that they are better staying put and developing rather than taking the step up for a payday risking their chances of first team football.

Maybe he feels the same about himself.
 
Blade56 said:
Wonder how many times CW will have said to young players like Brooke's that they are better staying put and developing rather than taking the step up for a payday risking their chances of first team football.

Maybe he feels the same about himself.
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Telling young players to stay for first team football isn’t the same though. If Wilder jumped ship, he would be steering the next one, not sitting in reserve.
 
Blade56 said:
Wonder how many times CW will have said to young players like Brooke's that they are better staying put and developing rather than taking the step up for a payday risking their chances of first team football.

Maybe he feels the same about himself.
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The difference is Wilder isn't just starting his managerial career. If at 50 years old with a 16 year managerial career he isn't ready to manage in the Premier League then when will he be?

I honestly don't know what Wilder's thoughts are on clubs like West Brom, but we shouldn't be taking for granted he will stay because he's a blade and building something here etc.

The board need to break the bank to give him a big contract and plenty of cash to spend in January. But this is United we're talking about here so it's unlikely!
 

He's already said he can acheave his ambitions with us,why would he go to a struggling premiership club when he is building something here.Blades are his club and average clubs won't appeal to him ,he will get financial rewards with us
 
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