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harrry1990s said:
First things first.

Most managers are going to struggle with this situation. (Feel free to mention Hull).

I’m 60/40 in favour of Wilder but it’s hard to know if we keep selling our best players, or don’t sign the good players available.
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As you've said I can - Hull had a worse financial situation than us, achieved

Boro in recent years, Millwall now, West Brom? All financially tight, don't throw money about - miles better teams than we are
 
It is still early in the season and nothing is won now. Charlton are top of the league for instance.

We rode our luck today. Least we scored a few. Pressure is on a bit to win on Tuesday.

I must say however I feel we need another option or two at the top of the pitch. Oné will be good to have back though.
 
NerdyBlade said:
As you've said I can - Hull had a worse financial situation than us, achieved

Boro in recent years, Millwall now, West Brom? All financially tight, don't throw money about - miles better teams than we are
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Hull signed a few players we should have signed last summer and have a good manager. And momentum. I’d love it if we could do this - they also have an engaged owner.

Boro spend and spend well. They have an excellent owner. This doesn’t support your argument at all.

Agree, West Brom look like a good way to change manager but COH/1919 will choose the next manager. Do you trust them? Don’t know much about their finances.
 
Also - 7 shots on target in 3 league games. We've scored twice. We have creative players (COH, McCallum, Cannon) and that's all we can muster?
 
harrry1990s said:
Hull signed a few players we should have signed last summer and have a good manager. And momentum. I’d love it if we could do this - they also have an engaged owner.

Boro spend and spend well. They have an excellent owner. This doesn’t support your argument at all.

Agree, West Brom look like a good way to change manager but COH/1919 will choose the next manager. Do you trust them? Don’t know much about their finances.
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Boro have spent less than we have in 24/25 and 25/26. Only spending now because they've made sales.

Hull had an embargo. They signed well, we don't. But they had an embargo, and achieved. We can't and we can still sign players

WBA got a deduction last season for financial issues. They're also struggling financially, and look much better than we are

Do I trust COH/1919? Not entirely, no - but I also don't trust Wilder
 
harrry1990s said:
First things first.

Most managers are going to struggle with this situation. (Feel free to mention Hull).

I’m 60/40 in favour of Wilder but it’s hard to know if we keep selling our best players, or don’t sign the good players available.
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Why are most managers going to struggle in this situation?

Plenty of managers have got a tune out of squads much worse than ours.

A good manager would still be able to coach their squad get their style of play in place and have the team perform and have the background noise of ownership issues not be an issue for the squad.
 
harrry1990s said:
Hull signed a few players we should have signed last summer and have a good manager. And momentum. I’d love it if we could do this - they also have an engaged owner.

Boro spend and spend well. They have an excellent owner. This doesn’t support your argument at all.

Agree, West Brom look like a good way to change manager but COH/1919 will choose the next manager. Do you trust them? Don’t know much about their finances.
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Boro have an excellent owner eh, that didn't help Wilder at Boro, in fact Wilder was sacked by Gibson with Boro in 22nd place
 



NerdyBlade said:
Boro have spent less than we have in 24/25 and 25/26. Only spending now because they've made sales.

Hull had an embargo. They signed well, we don't. But they had an embargo, and achieved. We can't and we can still sign players

WBA got a deduction last season for financial issues. They're also struggling financially, and look much better than we are

Do I trust COH/1919? Not entirely, no - but I also don't trust Wilder
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Fair enough.

But the issues around ownership need sorting before you can look at anything else happening. That’s all I am saying.
 
NerdyBlade said:
Then what are we? Because we're sure as fuck not a "survival at all costs" side like CW is setting us up as
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I'm hoping we're mid table and clear of danger and hopefully stay close enough to 8th to keep the season alive into spring. We're 3 games in and we are very short in certain areas. Today was terrible but we're at least grinning out results in this difficult spell.
 
Gimli said:
What is it that you’re expecting us to get at the end of this season?

Realistically.

We are not one of the top 6 clubs at the moment, that may be difficult to accept but it’s where we are.
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I don't expect us to be anywhere near the top 4, but you'd think with the squad we have and players we've got, top 8 is achievable.

Play like we have been, and we'll be lucky for 12th
 
GeorgeDonis1889 said:
I'm hoping we're mid table and clear of danger and hopefully stay close enough to 8th to keep the season alive into spring. We're 3 games in and we are very short in certain areas. Today was terrible but we're at least grinning out results in this difficult spell.
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Grinding out results? 7 shots on target. 2 goals. We're fucking dire offensively, and have a manager that seems to want us to sit back and defend while he makes random, nonsensical defensive substitutions

Are you honestly telling me with players as talented as Cooper, Bamford, Tanganga, COH ect that we should be a midtable side?
 
Millhousesblade1889 said:
Yep, I won’t deny it is. I said as much on the shoutbox during the game….but it’s a point gained

We lack creativity badly and we clearly don’t have the money you need to sign those types of players unfortunately.

I think Wilder knows that & he’s gone for the tough to beat route.

Hopefully we can express ourselves a bit more at home. Still undefeated, reasons to be positive
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Be astute and shrewd in the market then. Look elsewhere, unearth a gem. Wilder used to be fairly good at that. He’s fallen far beyond that now. Or the club have. We’re still a good loan option despite the off the field stuff. Donovan I like, even before Blackburn, but time will tell if that was a shrewd move. We need more of that elsewhere.
 
NerdyBlade said:
Grinding out results? 7 shots on target. 2 goals. We're fucking dire offensively, and have a manager that seems to want us to sit back and defend while he makes random, nonsensical defensive substitutions
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Yep that's pretty much what grinding out results means. Again it's only 3 games in.
NerdyBlade said:
Are you honestly telling me with players as talented as Cooper, Bamford, Tanganga, COH ect that we should be a midtable side?
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Yes I think our squad is a mid table squad certainly as it is right now
 
NerdyBlade said:
And are you telling me that a team with aspirations of going up should look as bad as we have in those 3 league games?
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I don’t think we should have aspirations of going up, mid table obscurity would be a bonus with the business we’ve done and the nonsense going on behind the scenes.
 
GeorgeDonis1889 said:
Yep that's pretty much what grinding out results means. Again it's only 3 games in.
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The fact that you're happy with draws and our lack of offensive output is laughable
GeorgeDonis1889 said:
Yes I think our squad is a mid table squad certainly as it is right now
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COH - one of the best attacking mids in the league. Bamford is a proven Champ goalscorer. Tanganga one of the best CBs in the league. Cooper on his day is a top 3 keeper in the league. Add in other talents like McCallum, Donovan, Burrows ect and we should be comfortably top 8.

It's nothing to do with finances or talent. It's tactics. And that falls on one man
 



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