Wilder on Footy Focus today

[Brownieblade]

Jags did look genuinely gutted from those clips they showed on FF

 

[bypassblade]

I don't know the BBC has thousands of Blades fans to choose from to interview, yet they pick some prick on day release from Broadmoor/Rampton.

 

[Niceguyeddie]

Why would he deliberately handball it?

It makes no sense.

He knows he didn't he's just on the wind up
If it was up to.him we'd still have David Weir as manger and brooksy would still be in the academy

 

[Speedracer]

You are entirely wrong. Consult a practitioner in bio-mechanics. Utter bollocks. Why did the former Everton player and Ol’ Big Nose never claim that? Risible apologetic nonsense.

I played football for a long time at a decent amateur level. I never once threw my hands way above my head as an involuntary reaction to a push.

Spoken like someone who has never played the game despite what you say. I played for for 37 years, not quite pro but very close, started at 13 in the mens sunday leagues, finished aged 47, & I have seen it many times.

 

[Bladesman]

He knows he didn't he's just on the wind up
If it was up to.him we'd still have David Weir as manger and brooksy would still be in the academy

And Sharp would still be at Leeds United.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

He knows he didn't he's just on the wind up
If it was up to.him we'd still have David Weir as manger and brooksy would still be in the academy

Jagielka was our best player that season and scored 4 goals.

If he wanted to sabotage us why would he play well all season and then leave it until the very last match to intentionally do something stupid to relegate us?

As a theory it's probably worse than the moon landing being a hoax and 9/11 being an inside job.

 

[Pinchy]

Why would he deliberately handball it?

It makes no sense.

Panic? Moment of madness fearing the opponent would get a scoring opportunity? Why does any player deliberately handle the ball? Deliberate does not mean malicious or pre-meditated. An axiom that is routinely ignored in this discussion.

I have never suggested he did it in a pre-determined quest for a move. I’ve just said he knew he was okay and couldn’t give a fuck. That is entirely consistent with his chronic failure to explain himself. He still hasn’t. That’s all nothing more. The rest is noise and nonsense, especially the ludicrous ‘push theory’. That’s on a par with the JFK magic bullet.

 

[Broomhall Blade]

Saw FF quite enjoyed what they said about us, was it Micah Richards and that bird and Dan all were complementary to us, who the hell that fan was "we've always been smaller club, pigs bigger" WTF. With a statement like that I can see him getting lamped as soon as he walks in ground next Sunday.

Doubt he will be walking in Bramall Lane next week, more likely to be walking in the Park Hotel right now.

 

[bromtom]

I don't know the BBC has thousands of Blades fans to choose from to interview, yet they pick some prick on day release from Broadmoor/Rampton.

Who was the fan? What did he look like? He's not one of those YouTubers is he?

Unfortunately, we have two main YouTubers, one of them is our main representative on Quest and Sky and he's got a terminal case of Bladey inferiority complex as Pinchy would say.

Writes us off, no faith, we're gonna fuck it up etc.

For future reference, I'd much prefer our media representative to be Beans, Beans get an agent haha

 

[Pinchy]

Why would he deliberately handball it?

It makes no sense.

Panic? Moment of madness fearing the opponent would get a scoring opportunity? Why does any player deliberately handle the ball? Deliberate does not mean malicious or pre-meditated. An axiom that is routinely ignored in this discussion.

I have never suggested he did it in a pre-determined quest for a move. I’ve just said he knew he was okay and couldn’t give a fuck. That is entirely consistent with his chronic failure to explain himself. He still hasn’t. That’s all nothing more. The rest is noise and nonsense, especially the ludicrous ‘push theory’. That’s on a par with the JFK magic bullet.

 

[PeterNdlovu081]

Panic? Moment of madness fearing the opponent would get a scoring opportunity? Why does any player deliberately handle the ball? Deliberate does not mean malicious or pre-meditated. An axiom that is routinely ignored in this discussion.

I have never suggested he did it in a pre-determined quest for a move. I’ve just said he knew he was okay and couldn’t give a fuck. That is entirely consistent with his chronic failure to explain himself. He still hasn’t. That’s all nothing more. The rest is noise and nonsense, especially the ludicrous ‘push theory’. That’s on a par with the JFK magic bullet.

I take your point.

I just think it's unfair to blame Jagielka for us getting relegated when he contributed so much to keeping us up that season.

 

[Pinchy]

Who was the fan? What did he look like? He's not one of those YouTubers is he?

Unfortunately, we have two main YouTubers, one of them is our main representative on Quest and Sky and he's got a terminal case of Bladey inferiority complex as Pinchy would say.

Writes us off, no faith, we're gonna fuck it up etc.

For future reference, I'd much prefer our media representative to be Beans, Beans get an agent haha

I would be far and away the best choice for that role. Nobody cuts through noise and nonsense as well as I do. No challengers. No contest.

 

[Pinchy]

I take your point.

I just think it's unfair to blame Jagielka for us getting relegated when he contributed so much to keeping us up that season.

I don’t. It was simply a focal point. I know who I blame...

 

[Pinchy]

Spoken like someone who has never played the game despite what you say. I played for for 37 years, not quite pro but very close, started at 13 in the mens sunday leagues, finished aged 47, & I have seen it many times.

You’re kidding yourself. It doesn’t work like that. Again, have a word with someone who knows bio-mechanics.

 

[Harry's Game]

Danny Mills just arriving on Sky Sports News to give his latest pearls of wisdom

 

[bypassblade]

I take your point.

I just think it's unfair to blame Jagielka for us getting relegated when he contributed so much to keeping us up that season.

I agree Nuddy, there were lot's of factors against us that season Jags handball, Webber hits inside of post, 2 missed pens v Blackburn. Pen not given at OT, the "intent" on Steven as the ref called it, there was 1 game we were winning 1-0 no danger then Kenny thought he could dribble, lost ball and they equalised either Everton or Pompey. Hulse breaking leg at Chelsea, Wet Spam cheating but PL cheating more by not deducting points, also I know Warnock tried but he saw it as his own personal crusade to get liked by the media (never happen) lol. This is now our time to rectify a lot of wrongs, and prove critics wrong.

 

[Speedracer]

You’re kidding yourself. It doesn’t work like that. Again, have a word with someone who knows bio-mechanics.

Look mate, you have been chanting that particular mantra (Jags) for so long your position is so entrenched you couldn't change it if you wanted to. You believe that, it's fine it is about opinions, but I think you will find the overwhelming majority will have an opinion close to my own.

 

[georgebernardshaw]

You’re kidding yourself. It doesn’t work like that. Again, have a word with someone who knows bio-mechanics.

I think he’s referring to someone who knows about football, not

 

[YES Blade]

Our fan on tv played the “we’re a little club BUT we’ll try really hard” card and the BBC lapped it up.

No mention that it’s the best football we’ve seen and the best manager we’ve had in nearly 50 years.

Regards the “pigs bigger” comment he forgot to put the word “traditionally” in front on it.
Over history SW are slightly bigger than us in most things but in recent history (last 20 years) we’ve generally been bigger than them in almost everything.

Whether that’s true or not, I think anyone with half a brain wouldn’t go on national tv and utter those words!

 

[Bladesman]

 

[Pinchy]

Look mate, you have been chanting that particular mantra (Jags) for so long your position is so entrenched you couldn't change it if you wanted to. You believe that, it's fine it is about opinions, but I think you will find the overwhelming majority will have an opinion close to my own.

There is no muscular or CNN function that automatically throws your hands above your head as a result of a push. The animal survival instinct may well cause you to push your hands forwards in front of you to break a harmful fall. That’s it. Nothing more. Jagielka’s handball was a deliberate act. I have mentioned the definition of deliberate elsewhere. There is widespread misunderstanding in this debate.

 

[Speedracer]

With two feet on the floor I agree, different story when you are in the air. Anyway come on, this is boring for others let's just leave it that we agree to disagree?

 

[Pinchy]

Excruciating. .

I’d keep quiet for a while if I were you, Andy.

 

[Pinchy]

I think he’s referring to someone who knows about football, not

Then those he refers to would most certainly include me.

 

[Wright1889]

What did the tweet say? Haha

 

[georgebernardshaw]

Then those he refers to would most certainly include me.

 

[Sheffsteel]

Jagielka was our best player that season and scored 4 goals.

If he wanted to sabotage us why would he play well all season and then leave it until the very last match to intentionally do something stupid to relegate us?

As a theory it's probably worse than the moon landing being a hoax and 9/11 being an inside job.

The theory is his agent received interest from Everton the week before the season ended.
So entering the Wigan match he’ll have known that if we lose...then he’s gauranteed a move to Everton with a big signing on fee and more than doubling his salary.
Remember he had a special 4 million clause allowing him to leave on the cheap. Think his value was nearer 6 million at the time, so Everton got a bit of a bargain.

Of course I would never blame Jags for our relegation. He was one of our best players that season.
Love his calm personality and leadership, would like him to remain at the club in a coaching role.

 

[Sheffsteel]

Whether that’s true or not, I think anyone with half a brain wouldn’t go on national tv and utter those words!

Agree....it is a weird thing to bring up....again it’s the inferiority factor that seems to be inbuilt into some Blades.

 

[Joeblades1]

He hasnt been down in the fourth division with us had the piss ripped out him. By pigs. Had any altercations with. Pigs down the years Looking at him hes a shirter and a fucking teacher say no. More . Thats what makes a. Lot of blades delight in rubbing it in even more now. Giving it back. Large . What he said was bollox anyway no backbone we seem to. Have a few dont we fucking lame cunt

 

[Robby Blade]

Contacting fan site admins. Although they didn't go with the contacts we gave them - they wanted to film midweek in the day and people weren't available.

So they got an out of work actor and gave him a script written by Danny Higgenbottom?