Wilder In Or Out Poll

[Sean Thornton]

He cannot/will not change. If that is correct it becomes another gamble holding onto one goal leads and luck dependent.

Based on thoughts on here - cba to see what so many idiots on FB and X think - an important thought is how he will react to the negativity against him. If he circles the wagons because of his ego l doubt we’ll go anywhere. He will need to remember, as a fan, this is Sheffield United FC. Not Chris Wilders Sheffield United.

 

[Aston max]

He cannot/will not change. If that is correct it becomes another gamble holding onto one goal leads and luck dependent.

Based on thoughts on here - cba to see what so many idiots on FB and X think - an important thought is how he will react to the negativity against him. If he circles the wagons because of his ego l doubt we’ll go anywhere. He will need to remember, as a fan, this is Sheffield United FC. Not Chris Wilders Sheffield United.

 

[bladeinspaceandtime]

He sulked his way out of the club the first time round and should never have been brought back. Saturday’s debacle was all too predictable. Get rid and let someone with an iota of intelligence have the summer to plan and recruit.

 

[luffenhamblade]

He sulked his way out of the club the first time round and should never have been brought back. Saturday’s debacle was all too predictable. Get rid and let someone with an iota of intelligence have the summer to plan and recruit.

So you’re not his biggest fan, thanks for letting us know.

 

[Blade56]

And we achieved nothing.

It split the fans, does that count?

 

[Blade21]

When will some of our fans realize that the Chris Wilder of 2016–2020 is gone? We cannot risk letting him spend our last year of parachute payments. He is incapable of change or of owning his mistakes. And worst of all, he is dividing the fanbase.

 

[Sean Thornton]

When will some of our fans realize that the Chris Wilder of 2016–2020 is gone? We cannot risk letting him spend our last year of parachute payments. He is incapable of change or of owning his mistakes. And worst of all, he is dividing the fanbase.

Can’t Beany tell him to do one like he did Colin?

 

[Muttley]

When will some of our fans realize that the Chris Wilder of 2016–2020 is gone?

Yup.

 

[Upton_Blade]

“We tried something different once and it didn’t work, so let’s never change”.

The mantra of unsuccessful people.

"If you do what you've always done then you'll get what you've always got"

 

[ben1987]

He cannot/will not change. If that is correct it becomes another gamble holding onto one goal leads and luck dependent.

Based on thoughts on here - cba to see what so many idiots on FB and X think - an important thought is how he will react to the negativity against him. If he circles the wagons because of his ego l doubt we’ll go anywhere. He will need to remember, as a fan, this is Sheffield United FC. Not Chris Wilders Sheffield United.

He usually responds to negativity or criticism with the old ‘I know more than the fans I’ve got mi coaching badges’ line. Which is why he’s not really endeared himself to half the fan base this second time around.

 

[Chris the Blade]

I think we are currently miles off being ready for the Premier League and I hope that this defeat, may in time, be seen as a blessing in disguise.

I just hope this will be a catalyst for a complete review of the way the club operates. For a start, we should do so much better with our player fitness levels and hopefully we can prioritise the completion of the new training facility at Dore, which should include state of the art facilities, to improve our sports science, strength & conditioning capabilities. Currently, so many of the squad are blowing out their arses in the latter stages of games, it’s ridiculous.

I’d like to see us develop an international scouting network and a policy of recruitment something akin to Brentford or Brightons, signing the best young talent before they appear on anyone else’s radar and nurturing and developing them at our own Cat 1 Academy, competing against the best young players in the country.

The club needs a new Management team that will embrace this modernisation programme. The CWAK team are a busted flush, their achievements cannot be denied, the climb from Division 1 to ninth in the Premier league produced some of the best most exciting, innovative, football I’ve ever seen at Bramall Lane. But this season, on the whole, has been the absolute polar opposite of that fast paced, exciting up and at ‘em style, they seem devoid of fresh ideas and play the same dull possession based football adopted by so many teams, despite not possessing the quality and pace in the team to utilise it. The players in our squad were more than capable of securing promotion, yet we’ve often rode our luck and got 3 points when we really didn’t deserve them and crucially got caught out dropping daft points in the home straight and that is the managers responsibility.

I don’t know who are the ideal managerial candidates to oversee such a transformation, but when we get it right, instead of trying to limp over the line in the play offs, we need to be ten points clear at Christmas and mathematically promoted by April, if we have achievable aspirations to ever become an established Premier League side.

More Powerade and less Peroni

Spot on

 

[Nick Jansky]

It split the fans, does that count?

It does count. You’ve got someone like Berkshire Blade, at one stage a respected poster, describing anyone who wants a change of manager as “absolute fuckwits” and “brain dead”. You expect that from a few of the usual suspects on both sides, but what Berkshire has unwittingly achieved is to make the case for change even stronger. We need to start the process of reuniting the fans, once he left the first time this manager wasn’t going to be able to do that.

 

[Aston max]

I'm repeating myself, Chris is in my top 5 managers of all time but now he needs to go !! He's dropping into the sulk mode we saw last time
Slav came in at the absolutely wrong time with a skint owner someone like him with the core of good players and forward thinking owners we have could give us a crack at top two next season .
I've got no suggestions as to who it could be !!
But my message to the owners is do it quickly and bring the mood of the fans,players and staff back up to optimism for next season.
The right appointment would also make a lot of players think about turning down moves .

 

[54yrblade]

It does count. You’ve got someone like Berkshire Blade, at one stage a respected poster, describing anyone who wants a change of manager as “absolute fuckwits” and “brain dead”. You expect that from a few of the usual suspects on both sides, but what Berkshire has unwittingly achieved is to make the case for change even stronger. We need to start the process of reuniting the fans, once he left the first time this manager wasn’t going to be able to do that.

CW always banged on about how he fixed the 'connection' between club and fans. It was, in reality, utter nonsense.
We were disappointed, doubtful, sick of being league 1 or being pummelled in the PL, but that was on results and not on our connection with SUFC. He did it both times, part of his playbook as if he's the only one who could create it. It's part of his image building.

His behaviour, decisions, actions, anger have created a disconnect now.

He's undermined himself and the club.

We don't all wear red and white glasses, take things at face value or fall for hot air.

 

[Berkshire Blade]

It does count. You’ve got someone like Berkshire Blade, at one stage a respected poster, describing anyone who wants a change of manager as “absolute fuckwits” and “brain dead”. You expect that from a few of the usual suspects on both sides, but what Berkshire has unwittingly achieved is to make the case for change even stronger. We need to start the process of reuniting the fans, once he left the first time this manager wasn’t going to be able to do that.

I once was respected?


Glad I could shake that off by calling people what they are I guess?!

Let's say we do a slav 2.0 and it doesn't work or we regress from 92 points...that won't Unite anyone

 

[Sean Thornton]

It does count. You’ve got someone like Berkshire Blade, at one stage a respected poster, describing anyone who wants a change of manager as “absolute fuckwits” and “brain dead”. You expect that from a few of the usual suspects on both sides, but what Berkshire has unwittingly achieved is to make the case for change even stronger. We need to start the process of reuniting the fans, once he left the first time this manager wasn’t going to be able to do that.

Not all armchair fans are dicks but……..

 

[thehet]

Every player linked with having a name like Jimmy, Tom or Dave.
Petulant bollocks
Cowardice

Fuck off.

Ivo > Michael

 

[ben1987]

I’d vote for a change.

He’s responsible for some of the best moments in my blades supporting life time and I’ll be forever grateful for those.

However…

I said on here at the time. I didn’t want him back. Why? Because it hurt when he left. The manner of it. The rumours about how he conducted himself behind the scenes. He was someone I’d envisaged managing us for 10 years or more. Our Fergie. We’d played some truly outstanding football on our way up and that 9th place finish will live long in the memory.

Football has however moved on a lot since then and I don’t think he has and by extension we haven’t.

We’ve made some truly baffling decisions this season. I don’t think we’ve played attractive football for the most part and we’ve clogged and fought our way to the play off final. The usual pattern has been break a team down, go ahead and then sit in and take fewer risks.

Souttar and Arblaster getting injured was a real kick in the cock and had they both stayed fit I truly believe we’d have won the league but it’s criminal to sign Holding and then not use him. Hes played in far bigger games for Arsenal than any championship game. If he’s Souttars replacement use him or don’t fucking sign him.

I wrote at length on here about Cannon. From everything I’d seen of him he has no outstanding attribute. His strength is he’s a relatively clean striker of the ball and gets a shot away early. Hes not fast, skillful or strong.

I think the way we handled the McBurnie situation was stupid. From what I heard we offered him a 60% pay cut from his premier league money. Which he was almost begrudgingly ready to accept until the opportunity for a full life style change came along for his family. I don’t understand why we’ve low balled him so much. Then spend £2m on Moore who’s 4 years older. Has zero re-sale. Will be on very good money himself and has spent just as much time unavailable as McBurnie has. Surely it would’ve been financially better for the club to offer the younger and better player say 30/40% cut and get the deal done.

The better teams in football at the moment are full of pacey and skillful players which is the exact opposite of how we’ve gone about things at time.

We’ve relied on having Cooper, Souza and Hamer etc to drag us through tricky moments and snatch close wins which isn’t enough against the better teams. Which is why our record against the top 4 is woeful.

He’s made himself look bitter and unlikable with snide comments and unnecessary rants at times which reflects poorly on us as a club.

It was pretty obvious on Saturday once the VAR decision went against us they were going to have a real go. Their fans went from silent and shell shocked to bouncing and the whole momentum shifted. Switching to the 4231 wasn’t a bad idea but it needed to be earlier! We needed the energy of Davies and Ohare pressing them backwards and trying to progress the ball forwards. By the time he changed anything we were done. Absolutely knackered physically and mentally from surrendering possession and the midfield for 40 mins.

 

[Nick Jansky]

I once was respected?


Glad I could shake that off by calling people what they are I guess?!

Let's say we do a slav 2.0 and it doesn't work or we regress from 92 points...that won't Unite anyone

As long as you don’t mind people calling you what you are, it’s fine

 

[raul]

I remember a previous manager garnering 90 points and losing a POF not too long ago.

I also remember how things went the following season.

There are reasons why you'd keep him and reasons why you wouldnt, but the points thing is not one of them

 

[bladeinspaceandtime]

So you’re not his biggest fan, thanks for letting us know.

No one is forcing you to read it, darling.

 

[Old Programme seller]

I think we are currently miles off being ready for the Premier League and I hope that this defeat, may in time, be seen as a blessing in disguise.

I just hope this will be a catalyst for a complete review of the way the club operates. For a start, we should do so much better with our player fitness levels and hopefully we can prioritise the completion of the new training facility at Dore, which should include state of the art facilities, to improve our sports science, strength & conditioning capabilities. Currently, so many of the squad are blowing out their arses in the latter stages of games, it’s ridiculous.

I’d like to see us develop an international scouting network and a policy of recruitment something akin to Brentford or Brightons, signing the best young talent before they appear on anyone else’s radar and nurturing and developing them at our own Cat 1 Academy, competing against the best young players in the country.

The club needs a new Management team that will embrace this modernisation programme. The CWAK team are a busted flush, their achievements cannot be denied, the climb from Division 1 to ninth in the Premier league produced some of the best most exciting, innovative, football I’ve ever seen at Bramall Lane. But this season, on the whole, has been the absolute polar opposite of that fast paced, exciting up and at ‘em style, they seem devoid of fresh ideas and play the same dull possession based football adopted by so many teams, despite not possessing the quality and pace in the team to utilise it. The players in our squad were more than capable of securing promotion, yet we’ve often rode our luck and got 3 points when we really didn’t deserve them and crucially got caught out dropping daft points in the home straight and that is the managers responsibility.

I don’t know who are the ideal managerial candidates to oversee such a transformation, but when we get it right, instead of trying to limp over the line in the play offs, we need to be ten points clear at Christmas and mathematically promoted by April, if we have achievable aspirations to ever become an established Premier League side.

More Powerade and less Peroni

The problem with getting players super fit is like a few seasons ago we had them and they kept getting injured and we all complained about it.

 

[Blade56]

It does count. You’ve got someone like Berkshire Blade, at one stage a respected poster, describing anyone who wants a change of manager as “absolute fuckwits” and “brain dead”. You expect that from a few of the usual suspects on both sides, but what Berkshire has unwittingly achieved is to make the case for change even stronger. We need to start the process of reuniting the fans, once he left the first time this manager wasn’t going to be able to do that.

The big plus when Wilder first came is it 100% brought the fans back together after Wilson, Clough, Atkinson, Slav had fragmented the fan base

 

[Sean Thornton]

The big plus when Wilder first came is it 100% brought the fans back together after Wilson, Clough, Atkinson, Slav had fragmented the fan base

Big Fat Ron was a disaster……

 

[Keen Blade]

Stay please but be more positive and don't act like a Billy Big Bollox.

As if he can change ,

 

[Upton_Blade]

I'm repeating myself, Chris is in my top 5 managers of all time but now he needs to go !! He's dropping into the sulk mode we saw last time
Slav came in at the absolutely wrong time with a skint owner someone like him with the core of good players and forward thinking owners we have could give us a crack at top two next season .
I've got no suggestions as to who it could be !!
But my message to the owners is do it quickly and bring the mood of the fans,players and staff back up to optimism for next season.
The right appointment would also make a lot of players think about turning down moves .

The problem when Slav was appointed was that we had an entire squad so wedded to the "Wilder" formation that he was always on a hiding to nothing unless he was allowed to bring in an absolute raft of players to play the way he wanted.

When he was binned and Hecky came in we went back to the formation the squad suited and look how the results upturned.

The difference now is that we have played a far more normal formation all year so anyone coming in wouldn't have to change that much this time.

I honestly can't decide if I'm Wilder in or Wilder out right now but I'm leaning towards out as I honestly don't want to watch another season of turgid, negative football again. I've probably said on here before but I genuinely don't understand why his approach this season has been so different to his 1st spell. There's been so many games where we've gone 1-0 up and just gone into our shell to try and protect that slender lead. Once or twice and you can maybe blame the players but the amount of times it's happened has to be down the manager and his tactics.

 

[Hodgesleftpeg]

Im not his biggest fan, some of his transfers, his conduct during interviews but.....

If anyone had said at the start of last season wed have above 90 points at the end of the season, we'd have definitely taken it, wouldnt we?

Granted, some of the football hasnt been great, but after the previous seasons debacle, getting back to winning ways was a must. We could easily have had a luton season.

Losing three matches so close to the end of the season was shocking, especially the way it happened..... we did a leeds

Losing Souttar knocked us. (So too Arblaster.. peck his been fantastic but maybe was played too much out of necessity), getting holding in was a decent replacement, only wilder knows why he didnt play him.

Two decent centre halves for next season shouldn't be that hard to find (Anel isn't irreplaceable)

I think most agree on the Cannon signing, probably bought him just so Sunderland couldnt!! (The irony) but hopefully he will push on next season.

He needs to take a look at himself and his conduct and right some of the wrongs from this season but id give him time next season.

 

[Keen Blade]

It was successful when it mattered for Burnley.

Burnley didn't have 'Jack the 2 Hat' in their defence

 

[Keen Blade]

Why he got a new contract baffled me at the time and bet the owners are regretting that now.

I’d like a freshen up, a manager willing to look abroad with recruitment (probably aligns with new owners vision) and having a distinctive style rather than passing it to Hamer and hope he does something. Won’t be able to do that next season as he won’t be here.

If Wilder is still here, he’s needs to do a lot of thinking and learning from his mistakes over the summer, hopefully coming to the realisation Jack Robinson is toss & that we need an 11 who can last the full 90.

He is far too arrogant to learn from his obvious mistakes

 

[Tom Bott]

I’m not sure what’s best, I think a fresh start next season has to include a fresh manager.

We need a new scapegoat.