Wilder In Or Out Poll

[metalblade]

30 wins out of 49.

But none when it matters

 

[Younger Dryas Blade]

30 wins out of 49.

And we achieved nothing.

 

[metalblade]

The games we didn't win were lost or drawn mostly in the last 15mins which says a lot on the general fitness of the squad.

 

[Aston max]

He made several fatal errors yesterday that we all knew and recognised ,
Holding should have started instead of Jack
Ohare or brooks in front of brewster
Davis on and not bbd ( we've all seen bbd,s form hasn't been good )
Campbell looked really pissed off when he got hooked, should've been Moore for Cannon

I'm beginning to not understand the love in for him now its time to go he's starting to believe he's never wrong
Don't get me wrong I'll always have a place in the section of heart dedicated to the Blades for him .



You have sat too long here for any good you have been doing. In the name of God, go.

 

[Nick Jansky]

321 absolute fuckwits

I can only see 189

 

[Silky Sabella]

The Poll is rubbish - if you add "yes" ""had a great season give him longer" and "Haven't really thought about it now"

That adds up to 54% - it should just be a Yes or No. Most fans would say this as Chris, Alan and Jack are the best men to get us promoted

FFS man.
Get real, get a grip.
There have been hundreds of posts and hundreds of reasons why this has been, selfish, stubborn embarrassment to the club has to depart, not to mention "Hamster Knill "
How can you call yourself Tony Currie and accept this?

 

[Muttley]

He gets results.
But, he cant win the big games.
Somehow, he seems to have pissed off a lot of the football World. Everyone seems to hate him which reflects on us as a club and fanbase.
He accumulates fines for the club.
He's sulky, mardy and comes accross as "all about me".
I can see past most of that, but what I cannot deal with is his obsession to "sit in, sit back" and lets just pass it sideways and backwards. Yesterday this caught up with him, exactly when he didn't need it.

 

[Silky Sabella]

Even Notts County sacked their manager day's after losing in the playoffs

 

[luffenhamblade]

But none when it matters

So the others don’t matter - doesn’t that equal relegation?

 

[luffenhamblade]

Even Notts County sacked their manager day's after losing in the playoffs

Well if Notts County do it, it must be the right thing to do. Am I still on planet earth?

 

[Silky Sabella]

He gets results.
But, he cant win the big games.
Somehow, he seems to have pissed off a lot of the football World. Everyone seems to hate him which reflects on us as a club and fanbase.
He accumulates fines for the club.
He's sulky, mardy and comes accross as "all about me".
I can see past most of that, but what I cannot deal with is his obsession to "sit in, sit back" and lets just pass it sideways and backwards. Yesterday this caught up with him, exactly when he didn't need it.

Brilliant, Absolutely Brilliant Muttley!
Now, how can you weak, shallow, pathetic wilder "please stay" people argue against this ???

 

[luffenhamblade]

Brilliant, Absolutely Brilliant Muttley!
Now, how can you weak, shallow, pathetic wilder "please stay" people argue against this ???

Thank you for the compliments, how about he's one of the best managers we have ever had and he had to completely rebuild after the premiership with an owner who wanted out. Apologies that I don't do the low level stuff as per the start of your message. Thanks again and enjoy the bank holiday

 

[Boroblade1889]

The goings on after the final whistle at Plymouth
The goings on in the pub after the derby
The goings on with tactics
The goings on with square pegs and round holes
The goings on with signings

He’s staying isn’t he!!

 

[1889]

I think we are currently miles off being ready for the Premier League and I hope that this defeat, may in time, be seen as a blessing in disguise.

I just hope this will be a catalyst for a complete review of the way the club operates. For a start, we should do so much better with our player fitness levels and hopefully we can prioritise the completion of the new training facility at Dore, which should include state of the art facilities, to improve our sports science, strength & conditioning capabilities. Currently, so many of the squad are blowing out their arses in the latter stages of games, it’s ridiculous.

I’d like to see us develop an international scouting network and a policy of recruitment something akin to Brentford or Brightons, signing the best young talent before they appear on anyone else’s radar and nurturing and developing them at our own Cat 1 Academy, competing against the best young players in the country.

The club needs a new Management team that will embrace this modernisation programme. The CWAK team are a busted flush, their achievements cannot be denied, the climb from Division 1 to ninth in the Premier league produced some of the best most exciting, innovative, football I’ve ever seen at Bramall Lane. But this season, on the whole, has been the absolute polar opposite of that fast paced, exciting up and at ‘em style, they seem devoid of fresh ideas and play the same dull possession based football adopted by so many teams, despite not possessing the quality and pace in the team to utilise it. The players in our squad were more than capable of securing promotion, yet we’ve often rode our luck and got 3 points when we really didn’t deserve them and crucially got caught out dropping daft points in the home straight and that is the managers responsibility.

I don’t know who are the ideal managerial candidates to oversee such a transformation, but when we get it right, instead of trying to limp over the line in the play offs, we need to be ten points clear at Christmas and mathematically promoted by April, if we have achievable aspirations to ever become an established Premier League side.

More Powerade and less Peroni

 

[Muttley]

Thank you for the compliments, how about he's one of the best managers we have ever had and he had to completely rebuild after the premiership with an owner who wanted out. Apologies that I don't do the low level stuff as per the start of your message. Thanks again and enjoy the bank holiday

There will always be those who see no wrong in Wilder, and those who see no right.

 

[Matlock Blade]

I don't like Wilder. I find his behaviour obnoxious. I didn't want him back.

Having said all that, I've voted yes keep him.

 

[Silky Sabella]

He gets results.
But, he cant win the big games.
Somehow, he seems to have pissed off a lot of the football World. Everyone seems to hate him which reflects on us as a club and fanbase.
He accumulates fines for the club.
He's sulky, mardy and comes accross as "all about me".
I can see past most of that, but what I cannot deal with is his obsession to "sit in, sit back" and lets just pass it sideways and backwards. Yesterday this caught up with him, exactly when he didn't need it.

Yes, you are right. He has pissed the football world off, I have been sent this from a football fan in Lancashire

 

[Matlock Blade]

I don't think even Wilder knew that Keifer was a secret Sunderland fan, or that Shackleton was a dogger.

He managed to win us 92 points which would normally be enough to go up automatically.

 

[Silky Sabella]

There will always be those who see no wrong in Wilder, and those who see no right.

There ain't not one bit of right in Wilder.
Pulp ' Common People "

 

[JT89]

I think we are currently miles off being ready for the Premier League and I hope that this defeat, may in time, be seen as a blessing in disguise.

I just hope this will be a catalyst for a complete review of the way the club operates. For a start, we should do so much better with our player fitness levels and hopefully we can prioritise the completion of the new training facility at Dore, which should include state of the art facilities, to improve our sports science, strength & conditioning capabilities. Currently, so many of the squad are blowing out their arses in the latter stages of games, it’s ridiculous.

I’d like to see us develop an international scouting network and a policy of recruitment something akin to Brentford or Brightons, signing the best young talent before they appear on anyone else’s radar and nurturing and developing them at our own Cat 1 Academy, competing against the best young players in the country.

The club needs a new Management team that will embrace this modernisation programme. The CWAK team are a busted flush, their achievements cannot be denied, the climb from Division 1 to ninth in the Premier league produced some of the best most exciting, innovative, football I’ve ever seen at Bramall Lane. But this season, on the whole, has been the absolute polar opposite of that fast paced, exciting up and at ‘em style, they seem devoid of fresh ideas and play the same dull possession based football adopted by so many teams, despite not possessing the quality and pace in the team to utilise it. The players in our squad were more than capable of securing promotion, yet we’ve often rode our luck and got 3 points when we really didn’t deserve them and crucially got caught out dropping daft points in the home straight and that is the managers responsibility.

I don’t know who are the ideal managerial candidates to oversee such a transformation, but when we get it right, instead of trying to limp over the line in the play offs, we need to be ten points clear at Christmas and mathematically promoted by April, if we have achievable aspirations to ever become an established Premier League side.

More Powerade and less Peroni

I'm not sure a manager should be in charge or overseeing the overhaul/development of the club at that level.

I think this is where the director of football type role should come in (or something similar). It needs someone who will be a long term appointment to oversee the long term plan, scouting, academy player development etc. Someone who's job isn't going to be reliant directly on first team results.

DoF (or whatever title) - oversee scouting, player development, player contracts, etc

Head coach/manager - focus on coaching, team selection, tactics, etc.

Having a first team manager also in charge or long term projects is unlikely to work, if they need to be replaced due to poor results after a few months the next manager might have a different idea for the long term plan and effectively be starting again from scratch.

Ideally you'd want the DoF & head coach to work together and agree on tactics/formations so the DoF can go out and source the right kind of players.

 

[1889]

I'm not sure a manager should be in charge or overseeing the overhaul/development of the club at that level.

I think this is where the director of football type role should come in (or something similar). It needs someone who will be a long term appointment to oversee the long term plan, scouting, academy player development etc. Someone who's job isn't going to be reliant directly on first team results.

DoF (or whatever title) - oversee scouting, player development, player contracts, etc

Head coach/manager - focus on coaching, team selection, tactics, etc.

Having a first team manager also in charge or long term projects is unlikely to work, if they need to be replaced due to poor results after a few months the next manager might have a different idea for the long term plan and effectively be starting again from scratch.

Ideally you'd want the DoF & head coach to work together and agree on tactics/formations so the DoF can go out and source the right kind of players.

Yeah, agreed. The club just needs dragging into the 21st century if it’s going to progress to the next level

 

[TJ blade]

I think we are currently miles off being ready for the Premier League and I hope that this defeat, may in time, be seen as a blessing in disguise.

I just hope this will be a catalyst for a complete review of the way the club operates. For a start, we should do so much better with our player fitness levels and hopefully we can prioritise the completion of the new training facility at Dore, which should include state of the art facilities, to improve our sports science, strength & conditioning capabilities. Currently, so many of the squad are blowing out their arses in the latter stages of games, it’s ridiculous.

I’d like to see us develop an international scouting network and a policy of recruitment something akin to Brentford or Brightons, signing the best young talent before they appear on anyone else’s radar and nurturing and developing them at our own Cat 1 Academy, competing against the best young players in the country.

The club needs a new Management team that will embrace this modernisation programme. The CWAK team are a busted flush, their achievements cannot be denied, the climb from Division 1 to ninth in the Premier league produced some of the best most exciting, innovative, football I’ve ever seen at Bramall Lane. But this season, on the whole, has been the absolute polar opposite of that fast paced, exciting up and at ‘em style, they seem devoid of fresh ideas and play the same dull possession based football adopted by so many teams, despite not possessing the quality and pace in the team to utilise it. The players in our squad were more than capable of securing promotion, yet we’ve often rode our luck and got 3 points when we really didn’t deserve them and crucially got caught out dropping daft points in the home straight and that is the managers responsibility.

I don’t know who are the ideal managerial candidates to oversee such a transformation, but when we get it right, instead of trying to limp over the line in the play offs, we need to be ten points clear at Christmas and mathematically promoted by April, if we have achievable aspirations to ever become an established Premier League side.

More Powerade and less Peroni

The owners should be thinking the same as you mate but I wouldn't hold my breath on it

 

[Silky Sabella]

I think we are currently miles off being ready for the Premier League and I hope that this defeat, may in time, be seen as a blessing in disguise.

I just hope this will be a catalyst for a complete review of the way the club operates. For a start, we should do so much better with our player fitness levels and hopefully we can prioritise the completion of the new training facility at Dore, which should include state of the art facilities, to improve our sports science, strength & conditioning capabilities. Currently, so many of the squad are blowing out their arses in the latter stages of games, it’s ridiculous.

I’d like to see us develop an international scouting network and a policy of recruitment something akin to Brentford or Brightons, signing the best young talent before they appear on anyone else’s radar and nurturing and developing them at our own Cat 1 Academy, competing against the best young players in the country.

The club needs a new Management team that will embrace this modernisation programme. The CWAK team are a busted flush, their achievements cannot be denied, the climb from Division 1 to ninth in the Premier league produced some of the best most exciting, innovative, football I’ve ever seen at Bramall Lane. But this season, on the whole, has been the absolute polar opposite of that fast paced, exciting up and at ‘em style, they seem devoid of fresh ideas and play the same dull possession based football adopted by so many teams, despite not possessing the quality and pace in the team to utilise it. The players in our squad were more than capable of securing promotion, yet we’ve often rode our luck and got 3 points when we really didn’t deserve them and crucially got caught out dropping daft points in the home straight and that is the managers responsibility.

I don’t know who are the ideal managerial candidates to oversee such a transformation, but when we get it right, instead of trying to limp over the line in the play offs, we need to be ten points clear at Christmas and mathematically promoted by April, if we have achievable aspirations to ever become an established Premier League side.

More Powerade and less Peroni

Can you please somehow send this wonderful article directly to the owners. They need as much information and guidance as possible to ensure that the club moves in the right direction, and to understand that fans have a huge influence on a manager's position.

 

[FATTYFOULKE]

In a way I don’t blame Wilder. He made sure he shook hands and went down. I might have done the same cos it’d have been hurting like hell.

As for leaving the players - character building. Let them face the consequence of throwing it all away.

Might have thought to himself I’ll leave them on the pitch to watch Sunderland celebrate and the next time they have an opportunity like they had both in the league or at Wembley, they’ll make sure they don’t do it again.

 

[Sean Thornton]

In a way I don’t blame Wilder. He made sure he shook hands and went down. I might have done the same cos it’d have been hurting like hell.

As for leaving the players - character building. Let them face the consequence of throwing it all away.

Might have thought to himself I’ll leave them on the pitch to watch Sunderland celebrate and the next time they have an opportunity like they had both in the league or at Wembley, they’ll make sure they don’t do it again.

Those last two paragraphs could equally be relevant to a losing manager.

 

[FATTYFOULKE]

Those last two paragraphs could equally be relevant to a losing manager.

True.

 

[Aston max]

My lad just said something, if Wilder's waiting for another pay out ignoring the raised and getting louder calls for him to go .
For someone who's supposed to love the club so much ??
Then why take so much money from the club in compensation ??

 

[54yrblade]

Nice to see that the "negative" brigade are out in force. Be careful what you wish for, Luton would love to be in our position. Wilder is the best manager we have had in years and he gives a s*it - lets come back in 12 months if you get your wish and see just how it has gone - for me I'd rather have a proven winner who cares for the club - let me think, how about

My lad just said something, if Wilder's waiting for another pay out ignoring the raised and getting louder calls for him to go .
For someone who's supposed to love the club so much ??
Then why take so much money from the club in compensation ??

1 Because his contract will include varying severance payments depending on success or failure
2 Because this will be his last time at 'his' club as manager and will want to make it count for him

He's at an age where there aren't that many pay days left in football management too, if he even gets another role

 

[moody1889]

Personally i think we need a fresh start with a manager that is attack minded who's first thought is about how we can hurt the opposition not us left to worry about what they can do to us.

Wilders shut up shop after going 1-0 up cost us automatic promotion and in the final.

 

[Working Class Hero]

I personally think it would be a bit mental to sack a manger who just rebuilt an entire squad, earned 92 points, deserved promotion in the league as the 3rd best team, and still deserved promotion as the best team in the play offs.

Football just happens like that sometimes and if it had ended differently on Saturday (which it almost did, and usually would have), even the Wilder haters would have been singing his name from the top of their voices. So it would be slightly throwing the baby out with the bath water for me, to sack him now.

He hasn't been perfect this year obviously (Tom Cannon is the big one for me, which I just can't forgive) but I can guarantee you that no manager is, especially at this level. Even the two that managed to finish above us have been slated at times. The fact is that keeping Wilder is the best foundation we could possibly have. We know we're better than everyone else with him at the helm, bar possibly the 3 teams who come down. If he continues to build this team (which finished very strongly by the way) and improves on some of those weaknesses, then there's no reason we can't go up. We could even be worse next season, gain fewer points and still go up automatically! It doesn't feel like the time to start from scratch to me.