CONFIRMED Wilder gone

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Yeah but wits going to say that isn't he? He's not exactly going to slag his friend off.

Exactly, what I was thinking. Same goes for Phipps backing up PA.

I am gutted Wilder has gone but it looked like the situation was getting more and more toxic if he carried on.

We won't bounce back from all this. This is typical SUFC and history repeating itself.
 
A love story
 
Wilder will be always a Lane legend and i will be sad to see him go. We have enjoyed some of the best football I've seen united play over the last few years but since COVID we have looked a shell of that team that came through the leagues with a swagger and identity. This year i have witnessed some utter dross on a regular basis with Wilder regularly backing it up. He would rarely admit that he got it wrong despite deploying the same losing set-up and 'style' week in week out.

To suggest that we will never have a manager that brings us joys like Wilder is a little defeatist, he was unique, and he was very good, but i personally think he lost his way this year and I am not confident he would of pulled it around next season.

He will be missed for sure but there is no reason why we can't enjoy success again without him.
 
One of the darkest days in our recent history, if ever.

Utterly heartbreaking 💔
this really does feel different than any other relegation or result... i feel like we've lost a part of the club's identity, we're shepherding in a new era, and personally, i don't like the look of things to come... just hope i'm wrong
 
Wit seems insistent that Wilder has been screwed over and the board have pushed him out.
That Wits a massive c u next Tuesday and only cares about his mate whilst whipping up all the brain dead twitter pond life into frenzy now wanting the Prince out which will only make any new manager have a harder task

he clearly cares more about his mate than the future of SUFC

Forgetting that his mate had £120 mill+ To spend , is rock bottom on 14pt and has been trying to quit for the last 4/5 months while we still had something to fight for
 
Chris Wilder was a superb manager, during the first three years of his tenure, the very best in my living memory.

But the bloke I’ve seen in the dugout and speaking post match this season, is not the same man at all. Bizarrely, he abandoned many of the principles that had been at the root of our and his success, he came across as surly, petulant, stubborn and totally lacking in humility. The longer the season went on, the worse the performances, the more apparent these traits became.

The performances, the formation, team selection and substitutions have at times been baffling, as were his concessionary post match interviews, where he bemoaned a lack of resources and preferred submissive flattery of the opposition, as an explanation rather than acknowledge or even suggest any personal responsibility.

I’m gutted that we’ve lost 2016/19 Chris Wilder and I’d hoped we’d see that man re-emerge next season. Sadly I can’t say I feel the same about the 2020/21 Chris Wilder, I think he deliberately made his position untenable, hoping to force the boards hand and take a large severance payment. I personally think he, rather than the board, has instigated todays change and he has forced their hand, because he has received another lucrative job offer. It seems to me that ever since this season started to implode instead of working hard, trying a new tack, he’s been looking for a scapegoat and a way out of the club with his reputation in tact.

Rather than condemn the board for allowing him to leave, maybe we should be acknowledging their financial backing they’ve shown the manager and their patience, trust and tolerance, in the face of one of the worst Premier League seasons of any team, since its inception. I think we all know, no other manager, in the same circumstances, would still be in their job in March.

I just don’t buy that Wilder has left the club, on a point of principle over the boards desire for a change in direction, I reckon he’s left because he‘s had a better offer and he’s been hanging around since January, until his agents got things sorted. The further those talks progressed, the more frequent and blatant the digs at the board, culminating last week in the ‘I don’t know if I’ll be here next season’ comment. I may have misread the situation, only time will tell, but I honestly don’t think we’ll be waiting long. 🤔
 
I think it is a bad move to get rid of Wilder obvious disagreement between him and the board. sacked or resigned broken promises from the board.
Thanks, Chris for all you have done for the club. you are one of our own. best of luck in the future.
 
Chris Wilder was a superb manager, during the first three years of his tenure, the very best in my living memory.

But the bloke I’ve seen in the dugout and speaking post match this season, is not the same man at all. Bizarrely, he abandoned many of the principles that had been at the root of our and his success, he came across as surly, petulant, stubborn and totally lacking in humility. The longer the season went on, the worse the performances, the more apparent these traits became.

The performances, the formation, team selection and substitutions have at times been baffling, as were his concessionary post match interviews, where he bemoaned a lack of resources and preferred submissive flattery of the opposition, as an explanation rather than acknowledge or even suggest any personal responsibility.

I’m gutted that we’ve lost 2016/19 Chris Wilder and I’d hoped we’d see that man re-emerge next season. Sadly I can’t say I feel the same about the 2020/21 Chris Wilder, I think he deliberately made his position untenable, hoping to force the boards hand and take a large severance payment. I personally think he, rather than the board, has instigated todays change and he has forced their hand, because he has received another lucrative job offer. It seems to me that ever since this season started to implode instead of working hard, trying a new tack, he’s been looking for a scapegoat and a way out of the club with his reputation in tact.

Rather than condemn the board for allowing him to leave, maybe we should be acknowledging their financial backing they’ve shown the manager and their patience, trust and tolerance, in the face of one of the worst Premier League seasons of any team, since its inception. I think we all know, no other manager, in the same circumstances, would still be in their job in March.

I just don’t buy that Wilder has left the club, on a point of principle over the boards desire for a change in direction, I reckon he’s left because he‘s had a better offer and he’s been hanging around since January, until his agents got things sorted. The further those talks progressed, the more frequent and blatant the digs at the board, culminating last week in the ‘I don’t know if I’ll be here next season’ comment. I may have misread the situation, only time will tell, but I honestly don’t think we’ll be waiting long. 🤔
You find it bizarre because it isn't true. When a manager is winning games, nobody criticises their interviews and everyone rides the wave. We start losing and people turn on the manager.

Then the football geniuses and psychologists arrive to tell us how he's abandoned all his principles and has given up. Klopp plays a high press. Now they are getting paggered every week, the players aren't doing it. Has he abandoned his principles n'all?

Everything in football is so much more explicable if you accept that sometimes, no matter what a manager does, you lose. Thinking of the first criticism you can and declaring that it is the answer is just stupid.
 
You find it bizarre because it isn't true. When a manager is winning games, nobody criticises their interviews and everyone rides the wave. We start losing and people turn on the manager.

Then the football geniuses and psychologists arrive to tell us how he's abandoned all his principles and has given up. Klopp plays a high press. Now they are getting paggered every week, the players aren't doing it. Has he abandoned his principles n'all?

Everything in football is so much more explicable if you accept that sometimes, no matter what a manager does, you lose. Thinking of the first criticism you can and declaring that it is the answer is just stupid.
I’m afraid it is true, that’s exactly what he did.

When we got some money, he seemingly abandoned his previous recruitment of team captains and only those with the right character traits and attitude.

Instead he bought Lys Mousett who turned up for his medical a stone and a half overweight, if that wasn't a glaring red flag acknowledging his lack of professionalism I don't know what is!

Then he bought Oli McBurnie, who anyone who has access to a laptop can see would rather be an American rapper than a footballer, or just any American in fact. That’s before he watches him run ffs 🤦🏻

Wilders recruitment in the early years was superb, well structured of a certain type and the basis of our success. Those values were apparently dropped when he had a comparative riches at his disposal. Let’s face it, he’s bought some right shit and effectively ruined the team and the collective will of the players, destroying any team spirit by shoehorning square pegs into round holes.

I expect you’re going to say they transfers weren’t all down to Chris Wilder, well I think today’s events illustrates to us all, just how open he is to the suggestions of others, don't you?
 
I’m afraid it is true, that’s exactly what he did.

When we got some money, he seemingly abandoned his previous recruitment of team captains and only those with the right character traits and attitude.

Instead he bought Lys Mousett who turned up for his medical a stone and a half overweight, if that wasn't a glaring red flag acknowledging his lack of professionalism I don't know what is!

Then he bought Oli McBurnie, who anyone who has access to a laptop can see would rather be an American rapper than a footballer, or just any American in fact. That’s before he watches him run ffs 🤦🏻

Wilders recruitment in the early years was superb, well structured of a certain type and the basis of our success. Those values were apparently dropped when he had a comparative riches at his disposal. Let’s face it, he’s bought some right shit and effectively ruined the team and the collective will of the players, destroying any team spirit by shoehorning square pegs into round holes.

I expect you’re going to say they transfers weren’t all down to Chris Wilder, well I think today’s events illustrates to us all, just how open he is to the suggestions of others, don't you?
Weird how the players you mention drove us to our highest ever PL finish. Fans chanted game after game laughing at those who thought we'd chucked 10mill down the drain on Lys.

But now it's all gone wrong, the hindsight brigade are out. It was crystal clear from the very beginning the Mousset was a waste, what a muppet Wilder was! He is the one who has changed and messed it all up and us fans saw it all the way. Next you'll be claiming you knew better than to trust Wilder with transfers in Lg1 after we signed Hanson.
 



Chris Wilder was a superb manager, during the first three years of his tenure, the very best in my living memory.

But the bloke I’ve seen in the dugout and speaking post match this season, is not the same man at all. Bizarrely, he abandoned many of the principles that had been at the root of our and his success, he came across as surly, petulant, stubborn and totally lacking in humility. The longer the season went on, the worse the performances, the more apparent these traits became.

The performances, the formation, team selection and substitutions have at times been baffling, as were his concessionary post match interviews, where he bemoaned a lack of resources and preferred submissive flattery of the opposition, as an explanation rather than acknowledge or even suggest any personal responsibility.

I’m gutted that we’ve lost 2016/19 Chris Wilder and I’d hoped we’d see that man re-emerge next season. Sadly I can’t say I feel the same about the 2020/21 Chris Wilder, I think he deliberately made his position untenable, hoping to force the boards hand and take a large severance payment. I personally think he, rather than the board, has instigated todays change and he has forced their hand, because he has received another lucrative job offer. It seems to me that ever since this season started to implode instead of working hard, trying a new tack, he’s been looking for a scapegoat and a way out of the club with his reputation in tact.

Rather than condemn the board for allowing him to leave, maybe we should be acknowledging their financial backing they’ve shown the manager and their patience, trust and tolerance, in the face of one of the worst Premier League seasons of any team, since its inception. I think we all know, no other manager, in the same circumstances, would still be in their job in March.

I just don’t buy that Wilder has left the club, on a point of principle over the boards desire for a change in direction, I reckon he’s left because he‘s had a better offer and he’s been hanging around since January, until his agents got things sorted. The further those talks progressed, the more frequent and blatant the digs at the board, culminating last week in the ‘I don’t know if I’ll be here next season’ comment. I may have misread the situation, only time will tell, but I honestly don’t think we’ll be waiting long. 🤔

Say it again louder

Chris wilder is the best manager we’ve ever heard that does not make him exempt from the way he has acted

Blame lies entirely at CW door
 
Well it's a been a dark few days for the club. Not just because CW has left or how it has been handled by the club but mainly the frankly embarrassing reactions of so called 'Blades' being played out on here and other platforms. Some of the comments, mostly uninformed and in some cases abusive to people at the club or those with differing opinions have frankly been ridiculous. Grown men metaphorically 'throwng their teddy out of the pram', laying blame for things the dislike at individuals' doors, demanding people resign, or even sell the club, stating they're "done with the club" - absolutely pathetic.

Very few people will know all the details of what's actually transpired. On both sides, those that either have access to more information or elude to doing so, and in some cases whilst holding positions at the club, have been irresponsible.

People are of course entitled to their opinion and to express it but the way that's it's been done over the course of the last few days, has made themselves and the club a laughing stock. It has actually reminded me in many ways of the Ched Evans saga a few years ago - just how badly that was handled and the reactions and actions of people that should know better and act their age.

People may not like or agree with the outcome of this particular episode and that is of course fine if expressed in the right way. The club has been running since 1889, many people associated with it have come and gone during that time and many more will do so in future. The club will continue into the future and experience periods with and without success. That is worth remembering by those seemingly willing to go 'all in' on this occasion.
 
Well it's a been a dark few days for the club. Not just because CW has left or how it has been handled by the club but mainly the frankly embarrassing reactions of so called 'Blades' being played out on here and other platforms. Some of the comments, mostly uninformed and in some cases abusive to people at the club or those with differing opinions have frankly been ridiculous. Grown men metaphorically 'throwng their teddy out of the pram', laying blame for things the dislike at individuals' doors, demanding people resign, or even sell the club, stating they're "done with the club" - absolutely pathetic.

Very few people will know all the details of what's actually transpired. On both sides, those that either have access to more information or elude to doing so, and in some cases whilst holding positions at the club, have been irresponsible.

People are of course entitled to their opinion and to express it but the way that's it's been done over the course of the last few days, has made themselves and the club a laughing stock. It has actually reminded me in many ways of the Ched Evans saga a few years ago - just how badly that was handled and the reactions and actions of people that should know better and act their age.

People may not like or agree with the outcome of this particular episode and that is of course fine if expressed in the right way. The club has been running since 1889, many people associated with it have come and gone during that time and many more will do so in future. The club will continue into the future and experience periods with and without success. That is worth remembering by those seemingly willing to go 'all in' on this occasion.

Expressing opinions is one of the main purposes of a forum.

These opinions can sometimes only be made with the information available at the time. These opinions can be influenced by emotions.

This forum would be an empty space if we all followed your advice.
 
Expressing opinions is one of the main purposes of a forum.

These opinions can sometimes only be made with the information available at the time. These opinions can be influenced by emotions.

This forum would be an empty space if we all followed your advice.

You continue to convey your uninformed, emotional opinions then.

Having just read some of your posts over recent days, I have no issue with anything you've said or how you've said it, even though I disagree with some of your points. My post was more directed at those being abusive to others (mainly those associated with the club) both on here and elsewhere. Being uninformed and emotional certainly shouldn't be used as an excuse or to justify that.
 
Expressing opinions is one of the main purposes of a forum.

These opinions can sometimes only be made with the information available at the time. These opinions can be influenced by emotions.

This forum would be an empty space if we all followed your advice.
He said on this forum and other platforms. Abusing people at the club through social media, telling people to resign and saying they're done with club aren't opinions. Have you seen some of the abuse floating around Twitter and Facebook? Quite a lot of it racist personal abuse and sent to their personal accounts.

Opinions are fine we all have one, about absolutely everything. Personal and racist abuse is never fine.
 
He said on this forum and other platforms. Abusing people at the club through social media, telling people to resign and saying they're done with club aren't opinions. Have you seen some of the abuse floating around Twitter and Facebook? Quite a lot of it racist personal abuse and sent to their personal accounts.

Opinions are fine we all have one, about absolutely everything. Personal and racist abuse is never fine.

I don't want to read racist, personal abuse so I choose not to go on Facebook and Twitter.
 
I am as gutted as anyone but we need to dust ourselves down quickly.

There are players and staff at the club feeling the same way, but they need to be reminded that this journey was about them too when all said and done.

wilder didn’t do this all by himself. If Knill stays(seems to be doubts it sill be for long) then maybe the same tactics with a different voice is what is needed. I might be clutching on this last point, however it’s all I have
 
You continue to convey your uninformed, emotional opinions then.

Having just read some of your posts over recent days, I have no issue with anything you've said or how you've said it, even though I disagree with some of your points. My post was more directed at those being abusive to others (mainly those associated with the club) both on here and elsewhere. Being uninformed and emotional certainly shouldn't be used as an excuse or to justify that.

'Having just read some of your posts over recent days...' just sounds weird

I hope my comment about attending a resrve team game in March 1971 didn't offend you.
 
He said on this forum and other platforms. Abusing people at the club through social media, telling people to resign and saying they're done with club aren't opinions. Have you seen some of the abuse floating around Twitter and Facebook? Quite a lot of it racist personal abuse and sent to their personal accounts.

Opinions are fine we all have one, about absolutely everything. Personal and racist abuse is never fine.
All the anti Muslim and anti Saudi culture stuff, as well, is being spoken by people who often know absolutely nothing about either.
 



Chris Wilder was a superb manager, during the first three years of his tenure, the very best in my living memory.

But the bloke I’ve seen in the dugout and speaking post match this season, is not the same man at all. Bizarrely, he abandoned many of the principles that had been at the root of our and his success, he came across as surly, petulant, stubborn and totally lacking in humility. The longer the season went on, the worse the performances, the more apparent these traits became.

The performances, the formation, team selection and substitutions have at times been baffling, as were his concessionary post match interviews, where he bemoaned a lack of resources and preferred submissive flattery of the opposition, as an explanation rather than acknowledge or even suggest any personal responsibility.

I’m gutted that we’ve lost 2016/19 Chris Wilder and I’d hoped we’d see that man re-emerge next season. Sadly I can’t say I feel the same about the 2020/21 Chris Wilder, I think he deliberately made his position untenable, hoping to force the boards hand and take a large severance payment. I personally think he, rather than the board, has instigated todays change and he has forced their hand, because he has received another lucrative job offer. It seems to me that ever since this season started to implode instead of working hard, trying a new tack, he’s been looking for a scapegoat and a way out of the club with his reputation in tact.

Rather than condemn the board for allowing him to leave, maybe we should be acknowledging their financial backing they’ve shown the manager and their patience, trust and tolerance, in the face of one of the worst Premier League seasons of any team, since its inception. I think we all know, no other manager, in the same circumstances, would still be in their job in March.

I just don’t buy that Wilder has left the club, on a point of principle over the boards desire for a change in direction, I reckon he’s left because he‘s had a better offer and he’s been hanging around since January, until his agents got things sorted. The further those talks progressed, the more frequent and blatant the digs at the board, culminating last week in the ‘I don’t know if I’ll be here next season’ comment. I may have misread the situation, only time will tell, but I honestly don’t think we’ll be waiting long. 🤔

Top post mate those thoughts have crossed my mind too. Summat don't sit right for me.
 

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